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IE7 security slider is manipulaed by web sites, No matter how you

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adi - 04 Jul 2008 13:13 GMT
Recently i moved the slider for internet zone in security tab to full and
browsed the net. i observed thie following behaviour.

1- when you are on reputable sites like yahoo or rediff or something like
this, and if you check your security slider using internet option > security
you will find it is not manipulated it is set to thr HIgh as set by you.

2- if you happens to go on site like youtube with your slider in internet
zone at high setting and try to search for any video and when search page is
displayed if you verify the sttings of your slider you find that it is not at
high but a custom is displayed there.

3- siilarly if you go on sites that allows you to wath streaming video
online with high settings and you happens to check your slider settings you
will find that it is not at HIGH but silder is not present , instead CUSTOM
is displayed.

4- If you click on CUSTOM button to verify which settings are manipulated
you will find that no settings are changed the combination present is of HIGH
or restricted zone, i.e most controls are disabled.

my qustion to forum members is why this security slider disaapears and a
CUSTOM  button appears on some sites , whereas inside nothing has changed.

Does this means IE7 security slider just gives you a false sense of security
or IE7 is very easily manipulated by sites like youtubes etc.

I am using NIS2008 computer happens to be cleaned of diease causing
bacterias etc etc.

Is this behaviour by default or slider does not functions at all , I am
using computer as a limited user.
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 05 Jul 2008 00:15 GMT
And your Windows version would be...?

> I am using NIS2008 computer happens to be cleaned of diease causing
> bacterias etc etc.

But NIS2008 *is* a disease causing etc. etc. ...

> Recently i moved the slider for internet zone in security tab to full and
> browsed the net. i observed thie following behaviour.
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> Is this behaviour by default or slider does not functions at all , I am
> using computer as a limited user.
adi - 05 Jul 2008 07:11 GMT
oh forgot to mention ,it is  xp  pro sp3,

> And your Windows version would be...?
>
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> > Is this behaviour by default or slider does not functions at all , I am
> > using computer as a limited user.
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 05 Jul 2008 07:17 GMT
Was NIS 2008 fully disabled prior to installing WinXP SP3?

Did you see & take care of the following before installing WinXP SP3?...

FAQ: Upgrading to Windows XP Service Pack 3 or Windows Vista Service Pack 1
with your Norton 2008 product installed
http://solutions.symantec.com/sdccommon/asp/symcu_defcontent_view.asp?ssfromlink
=true&sprt_cid=b32555cd-1b26-4041-abac-882faf8d365f&docid=20080530144453EN


Related:

http://windowssecrets.com/2008/05/29/02-Norton-software-conflicts-with-Windows-XP-SP3
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=33522
http://norton.lithium.com/norton/board/message?board.id=nis_feedback&message.id=
1624#M1624

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/953791
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~PA Bear

> oh forgot to mention ,it is  xp  pro sp3,
>
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>>> Is this behaviour by default or slider does not functions at all , I am
>>> using computer as a limited user.
adi - 06 Jul 2008 15:32 GMT
yes NIS2008 was fully disabled during installation,In fact i was not aware of
these facts i come to know after installing sp3
However i followed this methode which later i came to know was wrong.
1-format HD then installed xp sp2
2-installed NIS2008 did not run liveupdate(it was mistake here)
3-downloaded xpsp3 and installed
4 then installed rest of programms
5- updated NIS2008

after installing sp3 and a bit of searching on net i came to know about
these issues,( conflict of Norton with sp3) and their tools,

since my computer was not showing blank device manager so i didnot cared
,however Norton log was showing it had prevented the attemt to modify its
registry with keys like $%&'()*+ ,I checked those keys but could not find
such keys

i also searched as per ms Kb953781 but could not find traces of such keys or
values.

an unexpected thing happened in mornig today when i decided to search for
such keys in my computer not just in HKLM\SYSTEM ifound several such keys

some were like HKLM\SW\CLASS\INSTALLER\COMPONENTS\C794F6B256862 ....=
STARNGE CHARACTERS

THERE WERE MANY KEYS LIKE THERE NOT IN HKLM\SYSTEM but  in CLSID and in
Userdata ,the real catch is when i finished searching through registry and
rebooted my computer i could not boot, i was careful enough not to delete or
modify any keys

My attempts to start computer using recovery console also failed as i could
not logged on system because of pwd authentication was failing, registry were
so corrupted.

first it gave a message ntoskrnl.exe not found i copied it back
then on second attempt it gave a message ntfs.sys not found which clearly
means nothing.

As every one knows Nis installs itself as rootkit in drivers
folder.something was preventing startup some how with the help of BartPE copy
of registry were restored from windows\repair folder and system was rebooted
sucessfully

however when i tried to restore copies of registries from systemsnapshot
folder my computer could be started for hrs it continued on splash screen
forever

changed to old method again and reached desktop but could not use the system
restore feature

now i am writing to you, you will be thinking we satrted with a problem of
IE7 and landed here,

anyway i had decided that it will be in my intrest to download the tools
froms symantec site and run it ,and the see the result

I will post after running of that tool

> Was NIS 2008 fully disabled prior to installing WinXP SP3?
>
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> >>> Is this behaviour by default or slider does not functions at all , I am
> >>> using computer as a limited user.
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 06 Jul 2008 15:54 GMT
Your issues are many and complicated, way too complicated for us to attempt
to resolve here. As such, I'd recommend that you open a free WinXP SP3
support incident...

Free unlimited installation and compatibility support is available for
Windows XP, but only for Service Pack 3 (SP3), until 14 Apr-09. Chat and
e-mail support is available only in the United States and Canada.

• US:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131

• CA:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-ca&prid=11273&gprid=522131

• UK:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-gb&prid=11273&gprid=522131

• AU:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-au&prid=11273&gprid=522131

• Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 | select
Windows XP | select Windows XP Service Pack 3
Signature

~PA Bear

> yes NIS2008 was fully disabled during installation,In fact i was not aware
> of these facts i come to know after installing sp3
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>>>>> am
>>>>> using computer as a limited user.
 
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