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Hi i have just installed the beta of IE 7 and noticed you CANNOT make the classic toolbar on the top above the address bar - this is going to annoy the hell out of a lot of users - most are use to the file "menu" being the top most bar on everything including windows explorer! please include the option for this!! "Tools" (under the search textbox) -> "Toolbars" -> "Classic Menu" > Hi > i have just installed the beta of IE 7 and noticed you CANNOT make the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=2702 1b6b-d338-4dc5-9ccb-5e2eb4f52128&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general on Um john i know this im talkin about putin the file menu on top of the window (ABOVE the address bar like its always been) as in windows explorer and in firefox and IE 6 - why change the way its been for like ever!? > "Tools" (under the search textbox) -> "Toolbars" -> "Classic Menu" > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=2702 1b6b-d338-4dc5-9ccb-5e2eb4f52128&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general Sorry I misread the post. The key you want is: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar\WebBrowser] "ITBar7Position"=dword:00000001 > on Um john i know this im talkin about putin the file menu on top of the > window (ABOVE the address bar like its always been) as in windows explorer [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=2702 1b6b-d338-4dc5-9ccb-5e2eb4f52128&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general I personally like the Classic Menu bar not being there. When I 1st installed it, it was not there. Now for some reason when I start IE, the Classic menu is there. I have tried to uncheck it but when I close IE and restart it, it's there again. Is there a registry entry I can edit to make it hidden by default? Erik > Sorry I misread the post. > The key you want is: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=2702 1b6b-d338-4dc5-9ccb-5e2eb4f52128&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general John, I'm sorry but that is truly terrible - there should be a choice to toggle the menu position somewhere in the interface - or simply put it back where every other program under the sun puts it and leave it alone. Asking users to go mucking around in the registry - I hope you have support lined up to help them with registry restores! > Sorry I misread the post. > The key you want is: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=2702 1b6b-d338-4dc5-9ccb-5e2eb4f52128&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general I agree! This is a bonehead mistake on Microsoft's part - who was the interface wizard who came up with this one? I mean, at least allow users to move the Menu bar *back* to where it's normally positioned - on top of the Address bar. Such a simple thing! > John, > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > > > > > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=2702 1b6b-d338-4dc5-9ccb-5e2eb4f52128&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general Place IE7's menu bar on top: http://www.enhanceie.com/dl/IE7MenuAtTop.reg Earl Grey > I agree! This is a bonehead mistake on Microsoft's part - who was the > interface wizard who came up with this one? I mean, at least allow users to [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=2702 1b6b-d338-4dc5-9ccb-5e2eb4f52128&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general That does not put the menu on top of the address bar, which is what nikon is complaining about. > "Tools" (under the search textbox) -> "Toolbars" -> "Classic Menu" John mentions in another post... to move the File menu to the top: The key you want is: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar\WebBrowser] "ITBar7Position"=dword:00000001 > That does not put the menu on top of the address bar, which is what nikon is > complaining about. > > > "Tools" (under the search textbox) -> "Toolbars" -> "Classic Menu" How can I install that key: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar\WebBrowser] "ITBar7Position"=dword:00000001 I don't know where to place it or what I have to do with it. I would like to have the classic bar above the addres bar. > John mentions in another post... to move the File menu to the top: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > > "Tools" (under the search textbox) -> "Toolbars" -> "Classic Menu" Create a new text file any write the value: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar\WebBrowser] "ITBar7Position"=dword:00000001 save as IEfix.reg (with the *.reg extension) double-click on it to load it into your registry.  Signatureyup. > How can I install that key: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > > > > > "Tools" (under the search textbox) -> "Toolbars" -> "Classic Menu" I am trying to do this, but I get a message box saying it is not a registry script. This is what I try to save: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar\WebBrowser] "ITBar7Position"=dword:00000001 Am I missing something? Thanks > Create a new text file any write the value: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > > > > > > > > "Tools" (under the search textbox) -> "Toolbars" -> "Classic Menu" I have also tried to add this key as suggested below but get the same error message? How do you add this key? > I am trying to do this, but I get a message box saying it is not a registry > script. This is what I try to save: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > "Tools" (under the search textbox) -> "Toolbars" -> "Classic Menu" You can add this key to your registry manually if you want. I suggest making an 'Export' of your registry beforehand in case of any mishaps. Probably best to close down IE7 before making this change; I didn't and it didn't seem to matter, but better safe than sorry. Click 'START' | Run... and type regedit to open the Registry Editor. Starting in [HKEY_CURRENT_USER] drill down through Software > Microsoft > Internet Explorer > Toolbar until you get to 'WebBrowser'. You'll see a number of existing keys here (mostly REG_BINARYs probably), but you want to add a 'REG_DWORD' here. Just right-click on the right-hand screen and click 'New' (actually the only thing you can click) and then select 'DWORD value' from the drop-down menu. This creates a new key with the name "New Value #1", just edit that to "ITBar7Position". The new key starts with a value of 0x0000000 (0), which we want to change, so right-click on the new key and choose 'Modify'. In the filed 'Value Data' change the '0' to '1' and click OK. You should now see: ITBar7Position REG_DWORD 0x00000001 (1) Close the Registy Editor and restart IE7. You should now see the File | Edit | View toolbar above the IE7 Address Bar. (It also puts the Links toolbar over the Address bar as well, which I would rather have beneath it, but that's a small matter at the moment for me.) Hope this helps. I worked for me but as always with Registry changes, use this at your own risk. David M > I have also tried to add this key as suggested below but get the same error > message? How do you add this key? [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tools" (under the search textbox) -> "Toolbars" -> "Classic Menu" If you want to make a .REG file, you have to be sure to begin the file properly. Here is what the complete contents of the file should be: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar\WebBrowser] "ITBar7Position"=dword:00000001 Then save this file as WHATEVERYOUWANT.REG, and double click to merge the contents into your registry. -------------------------------------------------------- > Create a new text file any write the value: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > > > > > > > > "Tools" (under the search textbox) -> "Toolbars" -> "Classic Menu" Worked like a charm! Thanks! > If you want to make a .REG file, you have to be sure to begin the file > properly. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > "Tools" (under the search textbox) -> "Toolbars" -> "Classic Menu" I am not a computer expert. I am just a very annoyed regular user who wants her freaking menu bar on top. I do not want to have to force it through techniques I am only vaguely knowledgeable on and am most likely to screw up. IE7 just needs to allow me to drag the menu bar up. I do not understand why this is so hard for them. They can design a search engine, but can't give me the option to put the menu bar where it is supposed to be? For goodness sake. > If you want to make a .REG file, you have to be sure to begin the file > properly. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > "Tools" (under the search textbox) -> "Toolbars" -> "Classic Menu" How about this then. http://www.enhanceie.com/ie/tweaks.asp Steve >I am not a computer expert. I am just a very annoyed regular user who >wants [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] >> > > > > > "Tools" (under the search textbox) -> "Toolbars" -> "Classic >> > > > > > Menu" I AM A SW PROJECT MANAGER AND COULD NOT AGREE **MORE**. MS CONTINUES TO MAKE **STUPID** DECISIONS REGARDING STUFF THEY SHOULD ***LEAVE ALONE!!!!!!!!!!****** MEANWHILE THEY IGNORE STUFF THEY SHOULD HAVE FIXED ****YEARS AGO**** LIKE HAVE A COMMON SPELLING CHECKER, COMMON OPTIONS MENUS, SIMULAR TEXT EDITING FEATURES (LIKE CHANGING THE CASE) ACROSS ALL OFFICE PRODUCTS NOT JUST WORD. FOR ALL THEIR MONEY AND SMARTS THEY ARE INCREDIBLY ARROGANT AND SHORT SIGHTED. I **AM VERY TECHNICAL** AND YET IT IRRITATES THE $%%^&*& OUT OF ME TO BE **FORCED** TO HAVE TO DO DETAILED TECHNICAL TASKS THAT SHOULD BE **EASILY** PERFORMED BY CLEARLY LABELED AND **INTELLIGENTLY** DESIGNED MENUS. > I am not a computer expert. I am just a very annoyed regular user who wants > her freaking menu bar on top. I do not want to have to force it through [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tools" (under the search textbox) -> "Toolbars" -> "Classic Menu" Who do you work for, pcbutts? <eg> The (classic) Menu toolbar *is* available in IE7. Why you and everybody else in this thread can't seem to enable it is anybody's guess. If running Vista, see http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/d6576c88-2137-42b5-a154-ce21 e60ed0441033.mspx If WinXP, see IE7 Help | How do I display the Internet Explorer menu?; or click on TOOLS (in Command bar) and check MENU BAR. Signature~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ > I AM A SW PROJECT MANAGER AND COULD NOT AGREE **MORE**... <snip> > I AM A SW PROJECT MANAGER AND COULD NOT AGREE **MORE**. MS CONTINUES TO MAKE > **STUPID** DECISIONS REGARDING STUFF THEY SHOULD ***LEAVE [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > **FORCED** TO HAVE TO DO DETAILED TECHNICAL TASKS THAT SHOULD BE **EASILY** > PERFORMED BY CLEARLY LABELED AND **INTELLIGENTLY** DESIGNED MENUS. So to whom are you responding? You started a NEW thread. Duh! "I AM A SW PROJECT MANAGER" Sure you are. We believe you. Uh huh, sure, yeah. Professionals in the software industry always post in all caps. They always intersperse a slew of multiple asterisks and exclamation marks throughout their documents. Next time, YELL LOUDER. You're too far away for us to hear your screaming. >> I AM A SW PROJECT MANAGER AND COULD NOT AGREE **MORE**. MS CONTINUES TO MAKE >> **STUPID** DECISIONS REGARDING STUFF THEY SHOULD ***LEAVE >> ALONE!!!!!!!!!!****** MEANWHILE THEY IGNORE STUFF THEY SHOULD HAVE FIXED >> ****YEARS AGO**** LIKE HAVE A COMMON SPELLING CHECKER, COMMON OPTIONS MENUS, <snip - more screaming, more denunciation, more cluelessness> > So to whom are you responding? You started a NEW thread. Duh! Well, it took awhile hunting for the message-IDs in the References header of projectmanager's post. I should've started at the end of the References list. From that one, I found: http://tinyurl.com/5oy76h (Google Groups copy of what is left of the thread) From the last message-ID (4EA2C9EC-FE72-49AA-8154-2DEE16CF1511 @microsoft.com) in the References header in projectmanager's post, it was clarity's post to whom he responded. So we have projectmanager posting today against clarity's post dated over 19 months ago (Nov 22, 2006). Wow, this projectmanager is really on top of things, uh huh. Yeah, it happens. To be fair, I bet that I've responded to a couple of ancient posts, too, because I didn't check the datestamp. IE7 is something new! There is much more space now, I find it ok. You can press ALT-F (for example) and you will see the menu. It is a nice feature. > Hi > i have just installed the beta of IE 7 and noticed you CANNOT make the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=2702 1b6b-d338-4dc5-9ccb-5e2eb4f52128&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general > There is much more space now, I find it ok. You can press ALT-F (for > example) and you will see the menu. It is a nice feature. Huuuu???? You mean it USES much more space. 3 lines just for the menus, compare to this -> http://home.chello.no/~larse/Browsers.jpg SignatureLars-Erik - http://home.chello.no/~larse/ - ICQ 7297605 Nice menus :D But all what you need from the classic menu is also available on the browser (without the classic menu). "Lars-Erik Xsterud" wrote: > > There is much more space now, I find it ok. You can press ALT-F (for > > example) and you will see the menu. It is a nice feature. > > Huuuu???? You mean it USES much more space. 3 lines just for the > menus, compare to this -> http://home.chello.no/~larse/Browsers.jpg Adriano: > Nice menus :D > But all what you need from the classic menu is also available on the browser > (without the classic menu). But it still takes TWO lines (and they are both higher than my old) SignatureLars-Erik - http://home.chello.no/~larse/ - ICQ 7297605 WinXP, Asus P4PE, 2.53 GHz, Asus V8420 (Ti4200), SB-Live! As an aside to what Nikon is saying, when I first launched IE7, I saw no menu, it was only after having to explore the "Tools" dropdown that I found an option for a classic menu. I think this option should be part of the install wizard or enabled by default. In addition, I would like my menu bar above my address bar like in IE6 as Nikon says. > Hi > i have just installed the beta of IE 7 and noticed you CANNOT make the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=2702 1b6b-d338-4dc5-9ccb-5e2eb4f52128&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general Here is the registry fix to place the "File" menu above the address bar: http://www.fiddlertool.com/dl/IE7MenuAtTop.reg ThankYou for this its about time we get some response to our concerns thanks > Here is the registry fix to place the "File" menu above the address bar: > > http://www.fiddlertool.com/dl/IE7MenuAtTop.reg I read the other replies in this forum, and MS seems to be fidlling witht he userinterface just for the hell of it. Menu's have *always* been at the top, they're the next-to-invisible set of all commands nicely lined up. Because every app has them, that's why they work so well. What next, the File menu will not have new, open, print and close items on it? The authors of the old Windows UI Guidelines will be turning in their cubicles! Perhaps we could put the status bar at the top too, as a toolbar next to the Links bar, or the vertical scrollbar on the left, or the OK/Cancel buttons at top right? No? Think why you don't do these things, and then hopefully realise *why* the menubar is placed at the very top. Thank you for reading this, Microsoft UI designers. > Hi > i have just installed the beta of IE 7 and noticed you CANNOT make the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=2702 1b6b-d338-4dc5-9ccb-5e2eb4f52128&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general > Hi > i have just installed the beta of IE 7 and noticed you CANNOT make the > classic toolbar file menu is useless because you have these functions in the toolbar with the Page button > file menu is useless because you have these functions in the toolbar with > the Page button No, you don't. -Frank |
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