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Stein Ivar Johnsen - 30 Aug 2006 10:06 GMT

With IE7 RC1 links no longer opens in New Window as they should.
This is on my site using Adobe Flashplayer 9
Try this site: http://dengladeheksa.no/startsiden_en.html and then click the
WebCam button. This should open a new window, but does not work this way in
IE7 RC1

Any help, please?

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sijo
http://www.dyg.no

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Gotta-Getta-Fixa - 08 Sep 2006 15:09 GMT

AGREED! I am having the EXACT same problem on our website as the author of
this thread is having! The site was designed to have links open in separate
windows; but IE7 just uses the SAME frame!You keep having to hit the back
button to get back to where you were & start all over. Our site works
perfectly in all other IE's, Firefox, safari, Opera, etc. It only does not
work on IE7. I have been through the setting...turned off "reuse" & all of
that; but nothing fixes this issue. Any fix for this in IE7?

> With IE7 RC1 links no longer opens in New Window as they should.
> This is on my site using Adobe Flashplayer 9
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> Any help, please?

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Robert Aldwinckle - 09 Sep 2006 16:46 GMT

> With IE7 RC1 links no longer opens in New Window as they should.
> This is on my site using Adobe Flashplayer 9
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>
> Any help, please?

You mean it is opening but opening over the original page?

When I go back after that I see
"Press spacebar or ENTER to activate and use this control."
flash very briefly. What does that mean?
When I right-click on the Web Cam button it shows it is
Macromedia Flash 8 so if there is anything wrong with
the behaviour of the button I would blame the Flash control
not IE7rc1.

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Gotta-Getta-Fixa - 09 Sep 2006 20:16 GMT

YES! :-) That is EXACTLY correct!! The frame that is SUPPOSED to open, simply
opens over the original window! Glad you saw it too!

For Microsoft:

www.americanracing.com is another variation of the problem. If you click on
any of the navigation links on the top of the page, NOTHING happens at all!
The page just sits there! Site works PERFECTLY in ANY other browser.

Another site:

www.epitomeav.com has the "opens over original window" issue. On the
products page, there is a "product video" section. If you click on the
videos, they will play in the original window. If you click back, you have to
re-enter the site & go to the products section again! NO other browser (IE6
included) had this problem! The videos are to pop up in a new window.

This is NOT a "pop up blocker" or a "open in a new tab/window settings"
issue! I have tried every variation of the settings; and the problem remains!

Again, EVERY other Browser (including IE6) runs these site perfectly.

IE7 has an issue. I have seen these issues with IE7 on MANY MANY sites out
there. I doubt IE7 was designed as a lobotomized version of IE6 ;-)

> > With IE7 RC1 links no longer opens in New Window as they should.
> > This is on my site using Adobe Flashplayer 9
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Robert Aldwinckle - 10 Sep 2006 00:45 GMT

> YES! :-) That is EXACTLY correct!! The frame that is SUPPOSED to open, simply
> opens over the original window! Glad you saw it too!
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> any of the navigation links on the top of the page, NOTHING happens at all!
> The page just sits there!

Some of the links work for me. The menu is built by a script dynamically
and depends on the User-Agent. Unfortunately, the script doesn't seem
to know about IE7 and has lots of dependencies in it for netscape.
I'm not sure what browser this code would pick for MSIE 7.0.
I think you might have to run it by a script debugger to find out:

<example src="menu.js">
function lib_bwcheck(){ //Browsercheck (needed)
this.ver=navigator.appVersion; this.agent=navigator.userAgent
this.dom=document.getElementById?1:0
this.ie5=(this.ver.indexOf("MSIE 5")>-1 && this.dom)?1:0;
this.ie6=(this.ver.indexOf("MSIE 6")>-1 && this.dom)?1:0;
this.ie4=(document.all && !this.dom)?1:0;
this.ie=this.ie4||this.ie5||this.ie6
this.mac=this.agent.indexOf("Mac")>-1
this.opera5=this.agent.indexOf("Opera 5")>-1
this.ns6=(this.dom && parseInt(this.ver) >= 5) ?1:0;
this.ns4=(document.layers && !this.dom)?1:0;
this.bw=(this.ie6 || this.ie5 || this.ie4 || this.ns4 || this.ns6 || this.opera5 || this.dom)
return this
}

</example>

> Site works PERFECTLY in ANY other browser.

Fine. Try spoofing MSIE 7.0 as any other browser
and see if it works better.

http://www.fiddlertool.com/useragent.aspx

> Another site:
>
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> re-enter the site & go to the products section again! NO other browser (IE6
> included) had this problem! The videos are to pop up in a new window.

I see one problem in the source of the frameset.

<extract from="previous post">
I'm no HTML expert but judging by

http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/frames.html#h-16.2.1

I'd say your frameset (e.g. as seen by View Source) is terminated
too soon. E.g. I suspect the <noframes> element should be
contained by the <frameset> element.

</extract>

The original post where I noticed this first had a totally unrelated symptom.
Who knows what all might happen for such an unspecified case? GIGO?

> This is NOT a "pop up blocker" or a "open in a new tab/window settings"
> issue! I have tried every variation of the settings; and the problem remains!
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> IE7 has an issue. I have seen these issues with IE7 on MANY MANY sites out
> there. I doubt IE7 was designed as a lobotomized version of IE6 ;-)

Well here's an example of a Macromedia Flash button which does
launch in a new tab. Try using it as a comparison to see why your code
isn't working.

http://www.americasarmy.com/community/

Do a Ctrl-F Find for Snake and tab to the picture.
Somehow that picture launches in a new tab.

Good luck

Robert
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Gotta-Getta-Fixa - 10 Sep 2006 02:53 GMT

Thanks for the input; but I don't build any websites. I am just a browser
user. I hate to say it, but much of what you wrote went right over my head. I
just don't know the lingo. I am sure you are right, I just have no way of
changing the internet sites with it.

My point is this.....SHOULDN'T IE7 be backwards compatible to work with the
millions of web-sites that are/were compatible with IE6? Should a simple
upgrade of a browser cause the entire web-site writing community to have to
scrap what they have done; & re-write what they spent allot of money to
create?

If people (like myself) cant use IE7 they way we WERE able to use IE6 or
Firefox, then WHY would ANYONE want to use IE7? I mean, I would not wait to
have a site the didn't work correctly in IE7 corrected by the site
owners.....I would simply use something OTHER than IE7 to view the site?

If Microsoft expects the entire World Wide Web to suddenly conform to some
NEW format , rather than the format that they (Microsoft) spent years telling
people to use, they are in for a very big surprise!

I was & have been an IE user since I first ventured "online" in the 80's. I
NEVER used anything else....Until I installed IE7......Now I have IE7 AND
FireFox installed. I would STILL rather use IE7 since I am very used to
it...BUT....if I CANT because it cannot view sites I could see properly in
IE6, then I have NO CHOICE then to switch browsers!

Yes, I CAN switch back to IE6; but I heard Microsoft is going to stop any
upgrades to it....That being said, WHY would I stay with it?

**Sigh**....I would rather use IE7, but if it suddenly alienates sites I go
to, then I have to stop using it....regrettably...

> > YES! :-) That is EXACTLY correct!! The frame that is SUPPOSED to open, simply
> > opens over the original window! Glad you saw it too!
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> Robert
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Gotta-Getta-Fixa - 10 Sep 2006 03:14 GMT

I went to the website you mentioned.....Yes it does pop up. It works on eBay
as well.....I went to the sites I mentioned & see that they are sites that
use "Flash". The sites that do not work all seem to be animated sites. The
must all use that "flash" thing.

Again, if it works everywhere else, it should work in IE7 as well...

If a tire company suddenly made tires that didnt fit the cars they USED to
fit.....they wouldnt be selling tires for much longer.....Nor would Detroit
retro-fit all the cars on the road to help the tire company to sell
tires.....I truly think that Microsoft should address this, or they will lose
allot of people using their browser...

> Thanks for the input; but I don't build any websites. I am just a browser
> user. I hate to say it, but much of what you wrote went right over my head. I
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> > Robert
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Stein Ivar Johnsen - 10 Sep 2006 10:01 GMT

Yes, it is opening over the original page.
This is not a Flash control error. It worked as it should with IE6, IE7B1,
IE7B2 and IE7B3 but not with IE7RC1

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Regards
sijo
http://www.dyg.no

>> With IE7 RC1 links no longer opens in New Window as they should.
>> This is on my site using Adobe Flashplayer 9
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Gotta-Getta-Fixa - 12 Sep 2006 21:05 GMT

Hi again.

Can someone at Microsoft address this?

Thanks....

> With IE7 RC1 links no longer opens in New Window as they should.
> This is on my site using Adobe Flashplayer 9
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>
> Any help, please?

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