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Windows Forum / Internet Explorer / General Topics / January 2008MAKE IE7 STOP CRASHING
Here's an idea: try releasing software that doesn't crash all the f****** time. That's exactly the same as I get. I've had IE7 for a week or so and for the past two days, all IE7 does is crash straight away. I'm lucky that I have Firefox to fall back on. Maybe I'll make it a permanent thing... > Here's an idea: try releasing software that doesn't crash all the f****** > time. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=03f4 5567-3412-4eae-a44c-b73a950a769b&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general > Here's an idea: try releasing software that doesn't crash all the f****** > time. I've no crashes with IE7. try this fix: Tools -> Internet Options -> Advanced -> Reset Arnold wrote on Mon, 6 Nov 2006 07:51:02 -0800: > Here's an idea: try releasing software that doesn't crash all the f****** > time. Maybe if you posted which add-ons you have installed it would help to identify the issue. I have not previously installed the beta, I don't use any toolbars or add-ins written for IE6, and so far have had zero crashes and zero problems with IE7. It appears that most of the problems are due to installing over a beta version, or with add-ins like the Google toolbar. Clear the junk out, reinstall IE7, and you might well find it wasn't IE that was the problem in the first place. Dan True, but three points for you: A) I had no problems with IE6. B) MS told me to upgrade to IE7. C) MS didn't inform me that IE7 would be incompatible with Google toolbar. I have used Google toolbar for years. I wouldn't doubt it if MS had intentionally made IE7 incompatible with Google's toolbar out of spite. > Arnold wrote on Mon, 6 Nov 2006 07:51:02 -0800: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Dan Uninstalling, then reinstalling the latest verson of the Google toolbar may fix this. Not a lot of work, really. Hope this helps, Don [MS MVP- IE] > True, but three points for you: > A) I had no problems with IE6. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I wouldn't doubt it if MS had intentionally made IE7 incompatible with > Google's toolbar out of spite. > > Arnold wrote on Mon, 6 Nov 2006 07:51:02 -0800: > > > > > Here's an idea: try releasing software that doesn't crash all the f****** > > > time. > > Maybe if you posted which add-ons you have installed it would help to > > identify the issue. I have not previously installed the beta, I don't use [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Clear the junk out, reinstall IE7, and you might well find it wasn't IE that > > was the problem in the first place. Don, Thanks for giving me something to try. I'm afraid it is still stalling on start-up though. I think you are right that it is Google toolbar is the culprit because it didn't stall without it. Yes, this is probably Google's fault. But IE7 also crashed while using Google Analytics, which is a website, not an application. It said something about flash.ocx and said it needed to close. This is clearly bad exception handling by MS. > Uninstalling, then reinstalling the latest verson of the Google toolbar may > fix this. Not a lot of work, really. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > that > > > was the problem in the first place. Hi, Try uninstalling / reinstalling Flash Player. Use the uninstaller at http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14157 Flash player download: http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/ I've seen reports that placing the troublesome site in Trusted Sites may resolve some Flash problems. Hope this helps, Don [MS MVP- IE] > Don, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > close. > This is clearly bad exception handling by MS. > > Uninstalling, then reinstalling the latest verson of the Google toolbar may > > fix this. Not a lot of work, really. in > > message news:D777A7B1-7B93-4682-A457-D7527366C9CB@microsoft.com... > > > True, but three points for you: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > I wouldn't doubt it if MS had intentionally made IE7 incompatible with > > > Google's toolbar out of spite. > > > > Arnold wrote on Mon, 6 Nov 2006 07:51:02 -0800: > > > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > > > Clear the junk out, reinstall IE7, and you might well find it wasn't IE > > that was the problem in the first place. > Hi, > Try uninstalling / reinstalling Flash Player. Use the uninstaller at [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Don > [MS MVP- IE] Gosh, one has to uninstall and install so many programs. I wonder why that wasn't the case with FF2. Anyone who installs IE7 in its buggy BETA state is a fool. Alias >> Don, >> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > IE >>> that was the problem in the first place. Arnold 121231231 schrieb am Mon, 6 Nov 2006 12:09:02 -0800: > C) MS didn't inform me that IE7 would be incompatible with Google toolbar. Oh, you mean they didn't ask you for your phone number when you downloaded and didn't call you to read the release notes to you aloud? I agree that's a real shame. Kai  SignatureHelpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org IE repair script: http://iefaq.info Well, I disagree. In the Microsoft "personal computer world" there are numerous programs that have become "commonplace" and "useful" and so ubiquitous that one can't use the Web without encountering them, and depending on their usefulness. Just as examples of the top of my head: "Adobe PDF", "ZIP Archives or other Archive programs" "Apple Ipod" "RealPlayer" "Flashplayer" "Java" "various spreadsheet wordprocessing etc program formats" "various Firewall, Virus, Spyware, etc utilities". There are probably a couple 100 of such items that are part of the reality of the market place. It would be quite reasonable for Microsoft to strive for the greatest possible compatibility, if it wants to be the platform of choice. It's plainly part of customer service to make things work as flawlessly as possible. If you think it's somehow "funny" that software stops working when Microsoft releases a "new version" of something, then I have news for you: The great majority of all computer users are NOT GEEKS who can spend weeks and months on may be somehow making things work. No, we, as customers, want to have things work straight out of the box. If you applied Microsoft's customer service mentality to e.g. car manufacturing, then you would find it "normal" that I have to get new tires simply because I install a new CD player ? Right ? Right ! Or apply it to the Fast Food industry - then you'd find it "normal" that the lettuce on your burger reacts with your tomatoes to produce a deadly toxin. Poof! Ok, you see where this is going. Exaggeration and hyperbole to prove a point. But the end result is that consumers are so weary of this behavior, that we no longer want to try IE7 or MS VIsta, because we like it when things work, and we don't like it when they don't work. Yes, indeed, it should be nothing but common courtesy to expect specific warnings from Microsoft about compatibility issues, in a transparent fashion, not hidden away in some techie document that the average person does not read. Even more so, the incompatible items should be recognized and fixed automatically, as much as possible. You'd be surprised how many things can be made compatible, if it is made a priority. So far, we are just waiting for some eyes to open somewhere in the upper echelons of Microsoft. > Arnold 121231231 schrieb am Mon, 6 Nov 2006 12:09:02 -0800: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Kai Arnold wrote on Mon, 6 Nov 2006 12:09:02 -0800: > True, but three points for you: > A) I had no problems with IE6. IE7 is not IE6. > B) MS told me to upgrade to IE7. Would you jump off a cliff if someone told you to? > C) MS didn't inform me that IE7 would be incompatible with Google > toolbar. So MS need to provide a list of every incompatible application then? Google Toolbar is a third party extension, it's not written, supplied, or supported by MS. It's up to Google to inform you if their toolbar works with IE7 or not, and I seem to remember that IE7 is not on the list of compatible browsers in their system requirements list. If you want to blame, blame Google - they've had plenty of time to get their toolbar compatible. Oh, you did upgrade to the latest version of the Google toolbar, didn't you? Dan You mean Google needs to be made compatible to work with IE7 > Arnold wrote on Mon, 6 Nov 2006 12:09:02 -0800: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Dan Jerry wrote on Tue, 7 Nov 2006 16:11:34 -0500: > You mean Google needs to be made compatible to work with IE7 Yes. That's what I implied in my post. Dan I have installed IE7 on my Laptop Running XP Home. Didn’t change any settings just opened the browser and my home page came up. Using IE7 now to post this hasn’t crashed once. All my old settings were still there. Still getting used to the new interface. What systems are you running. > Here's an idea: try releasing software that doesn't crash all the f****** > time. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=03f4 5567-3412-4eae-a44c-b73a950a769b&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general |
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