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8 Reasons Why I Hate IE7

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Pikachu - 09 Nov 2006 02:36 GMT
(First of all, I'm French-speaking Canadian so I apologize if my English
isn't as good as I'd wish.) I have tried the final version of IE7 (English)
on a Canadian French XP Pro SP2.

1. WINDOWS Explorer and INTERNET Explorer are no longer able of internally
morphing themselves into each other. Everytime I type an URL in a Windows
Explorer, a new Internet Explorer opens instead of using the same Explorer
window.

2. Talking about #1 above, when I type an URL in the address bar of a
WINDOWS Explorer (or if I choose a Favorite from the Favorites menu), it does
open not one, but TWO Internet Explorer windows on that URL. This is a bug. I
noticed that it does not happen every time but I could not find any pattern.
Anyway, this should have been fixed BEFORE the final release. How come nobody
at Microsoft ever noticed that bug since the time they're working on IE7?

3. The search box is now included on the toolbar without a way to remove it
(as far as I know). So if I want to keep using my Google Toolbar, I have
Windows' search bar cluttering my interface.

4. The Menu bar, when showed, should NOT be UNDER the address bar. This is
in total contradiction with the interface standards we use to know since
years (menu bar first, then toolbars and address bar).

5. I hate the new Back/Next navigation buttons. I used sometimes to
right-click in order to choose which page I wanted to go back to. It's now
impossible, as long as right-clicking the Back and Next buttons just shows
the System Menu. Instead, I have to click on the little arrow at the right of
these buttons. However, this shows both previous and next pages in the same
list so I must take a little more time to find out the page I want to go to.

6. The code that manages the scroll button on the mouse seems to have been
reprogrammed to allow a click on that button to launch links in new windows,
like Firefox does (by the way, IMHO it was useless to do that, I'm already
used to Shift+click to do that). However, it does not work as before. When I
click that button and let the text scroll, with IE6 and prior, the scrolling
stopped as soon as I scrolled the button. Now, the page sometimes doesn't
stop scrolling, unless I physically move the mouse. This is a trivial bug,
you'll say... but I am used to a NORMAL and STANDARD behavior of the mouse
scroll button and it is now messed in IE7.

7. I sometimes use to drag a link on the address bar when I want to open a
link in that same browser window (for example, when I know that a link would
otherwise open in a new window). With IE7, strangely, this works almost
everywhere in the interface EXCEPT on the address bar. It works if I drag a
link on the title bar, it works too on the toolbar, but on the address bar, I
get a forbidden sign.

8. Before, it was possible to drag'n'drop a link on the Startup page button
in order to setup a new startup page. This doesn't work anymore with IE7.

All these reasons make me continue using IE6 SP2 as long as it won't be
unsupported. I really hate IE7. Really a shame that IE7 still has these
caveats as a final version. :(

Note to Microsoft's staff: If you ever mind fixing these things in a Service
Pack or something, then I'll be glad to use IE7.
Dan - 09 Nov 2006 03:04 GMT
Good choice. I'll be staying with the more flexible and functional IE6 as
well and recommend anyone who wishes to be treated like an adult when they
surf the net do the same.  Also, download Firefox and enjoy the freedom.

> All these reasons make me continue using IE6 SP2 as long as it won't be
> unsupported. I really hate IE7. Really a shame that IE7 still has these
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>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=d5f5
5323-8c68-4907-accf-5362ff8d65ff&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
Margrave - 09 Nov 2006 03:06 GMT
> (First of all, I'm French-speaking Canadian so I apologize if my English
> isn't as good as I'd wish.) I have tried the final version of IE7
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>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=d5f5
5323-8c68-4907-accf-5362ff8d65ff&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
Margrave - 09 Nov 2006 03:10 GMT
> 1. WINDOWS Explorer and INTERNET Explorer are no longer able of internally
> morphing themselves into each other. Everytime I type an URL in a Windows
> Explorer, a new Internet Explorer opens instead of using the same Explorer
> window.
So what?

> 2. Talking about #1 above, when I type an URL in the address bar of a
> WINDOWS Explorer (or if I choose a Favorite from the Favorites menu), it
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> nobody
> at Microsoft ever noticed that bug since the time they're working on IE7?
I've never seen that. Not yet anyway.

> 3. The search box is now included on the toolbar without a way to remove
> it
> (as far as I know). So if I want to keep using my Google Toolbar, I have
> Windows' search bar cluttering my interface.
I just grow the address box and shrink the search box to minimal size.

> 4. The Menu bar, when showed, should NOT be UNDER the address bar. This is
> in total contradiction with the interface standards we use to know since
> years (menu bar first, then toolbars and address bar).
There's a fix for that. I understand that the interface standard will change
with Vista.
This behavior in IE7 is our first look at that. Not good. But WTF.

> 5. I hate the new Back/Next navigation buttons. I used sometimes to
> right-click in order to choose which page I wanted to go back to. It's now
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> list so I must take a little more time to find out the page I want to go
> to.
I just use Alt-Left and Alt-Right. I avoid the mouse whenever possible.
Erwin Ried - 09 Nov 2006 03:20 GMT
> (First of all, I'm French-speaking Canadian so I apologize if my English
> isn't as good as I'd wish.) I have tried the final version of IE7 (English)
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> Explorer, a new Internet Explorer opens instead of using the same Explorer
> window.

This is the best of IE7. You can config IE to reuse ie windows if you want

> 2. Talking about #1 above, when I type an URL in the address bar of a
> WINDOWS Explorer (or if I choose a Favorite from the Favorites menu), it does
> open not one, but TWO Internet Explorer windows on that URL. This is a bug. I
> noticed that it does not happen every time but I could not find any pattern.
> Anyway, this should have been fixed BEFORE the final release. How come nobody
> at Microsoft ever noticed that bug since the time they're working on IE7?

This is a problem in your pc. Its not normal

> 3. The search box is now included on the toolbar without a way to remove it
> (as far as I know). So if I want to keep using my Google Toolbar, I have
> Windows' search bar cluttering my interface.

* Hide Internet Explorer 7 search box
http://www.enhanceie.com/dl/NoSearchBox.reg

> 4. The Menu bar, when showed, should NOT be UNDER the address bar. This is
> in total contradiction with the interface standards we use to know since
> years (menu bar first, then toolbars and address bar).

* Force Internet Explorer 7 menu bar to top
http://www.enhanceie.com/dl/IE7MenuAtTop.reg

> 5. I hate the new Back/Next navigation buttons. I used sometimes to
> right-click in order to choose which page I wanted to go back to. It's now
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> link on the title bar, it works too on the toolbar, but on the address bar, I
> get a forbidden sign.

I agree with you in this point.

> 8. Before, it was possible to drag'n'drop a link on the Startup page button
> in order to setup a new startup page. This doesn't work anymore with IE7.
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> Note to Microsoft's staff: If you ever mind fixing these things in a Service
> Pack or something, then I'll be glad to use IE7.

* Run Internet Explorer 7 with classic (IE6) gui
Start / Run: c:\windows\ie7\iexplore.exe
Spender - 15 Nov 2006 16:00 GMT
>* Force Internet Explorer 7 menu bar to top
>http://www.enhanceie.com/dl/IE7MenuAtTop.reg

That's odd. I had to open the site in Firefox in order to download the
file. IE 7 kept telling me "Cannot Copy File: Cannot read from the source
file or disk."

>Start / Run: c:\windows\ie7\iexplore.exe

But no tabbed browsing. It's a shame they couldn't have added the tabs as a
toolbar. I'd like to keep the tabbed browsing, but get the Home, Print,
Page, etc, buttons back up on the toolbar where they belong.
bluegrassbob - 09 Nov 2006 12:09 GMT
"page opens in a new window"  is your ALT key sticking?
Bob

> (First of all, I'm French-speaking Canadian so I apologize if my English
> isn't as good as I'd wish.) I have tried the final version of IE7 (English)
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>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=d5f5
5323-8c68-4907-accf-5362ff8d65ff&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
IE7 Disappointed - 14 Nov 2006 00:00 GMT
I have been advised by a Microsoft Advisor to revert to IE6 as he could not
resolve my problems, and there were a few. If they're own staff can not help
what chance do we have?
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David From Dagenham

> (First of all, I'm French-speaking Canadian so I apologize if my English
> isn't as good as I'd wish.) I have tried the final version of IE7 (English)
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>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=d5f5
5323-8c68-4907-accf-5362ff8d65ff&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
getu - 18 Jun 2007 10:46 GMT
I dont know why I cant save my favourite pages and make them available
offline, since installing this (IE7) though windows update. Infact I cant
find lots
of things. The only thing that I do like is the auto phishing. Just incase
somebody reads this (yeah right) I have windows XP Home SP2. Have contacted
microsoft and have alot of automated emails so I rang... and 1 hour later the
guy was still searching on the web to find a solution... I hung up after I
burnt the tea!!!!!!!!!!
I'm also sick of the errors, the windows has experienced an error and needs
to shut down sorry for the inconvenience, the error reports, the updates, the
downloading problems, damn I'm just sick of windows full stop.
P.S. I love surfing the net (its my fav) :)

just one of my problems, look below for a few more.



> > (First of all, I'm French-speaking Canadian so I apologize if my English
> > isn't as good as I'd wish.) I have tried the final version of IE7 (English)
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> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?mid=d5f5
5323-8c68-4907-accf-5362ff8d65ff&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
Daniel Crichton - 18 Jun 2007 14:41 GMT
getu wrote  on Mon, 18 Jun 2007 02:46:00 -0700:

> I dont know why I cant save my favourite pages and make them available
> offline, since installing this (IE7) though windows update. Infact I cant
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> hour later the guy was still searching on the web to find a solution... I
> hung up after I burnt the tea!!!!!!!!!!

If you read the release notes, you'll see offline favourites no longer
exists (and as a web developer, that's a good thing in my book).

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/aa740486.aspx

Quote:

"Offline Favorites--Offline Favorites and Scheduled Offline Favorites have
been removed from Internet Explorer 7. Internet Explorer supports RSS feeds,
which provide scheduled updates to web content and offline reading of this
content. For more information about RSS feeds, read the RSS Blog."

> I'm also sick of the errors, the windows has experienced an error and
> needs to shut down sorry for the inconvenience, the error reports, the
> updates, the downloading problems, damn I'm just sick of windows full
> stop. P.S. I love surfing the net (its my fav) :)

Trying turning off the add-ons that aren't compatible with IE7 then. Plenty
of posts in this newsgroup about how to do that.

> just one of my problems, look below for a few more.
>
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>>> in a Windows Explorer, a new Internet Explorer opens instead of using
>>> the same Explorer window.

This is by design.

>>> 2. Talking about #1 above, when I type an URL in the address bar of a
>>> WINDOWS Explorer (or if I choose a Favorite from the Favorites menu), it
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>> release. How come nobody at Microsoft ever noticed that bug since the
>>> time they're working on IE7?

This will likely be due to an incompatible add-on you have installed that is
opening the URL itself in an IE window, and then IE is opening it itself
because the add-on hasn't told it not to. Disable all add-ons and try again.

>>> 3. The search box is now included on the toolbar without a way to remove
>>> it (as far as I know). So if I want to keep using my Google Toolbar, I
>>> have Windows' search bar cluttering my interface.

http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/1897/ie7_how_to_remove_search_bar

>>> 4. The Menu bar, when showed, should NOT be UNDER the address bar. This
>>> is in total contradiction with the interface standards we use to know
>>> since years (menu bar first, then toolbars and address bar).

http://geeksaresexy.blogspot.com/2006/11/moving-your-ie7-menu-bar-back-to-top.html

>>> 5. I hate the new Back/Next navigation buttons. I used sometimes to
>>> right-click in order to choose which page I wanted to go back to. It's
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>> pages in the same list so I must take a little more time to find out the
>>> page I want to go to.

Personally I find this easier. The current page is ticked, it's not that
hard to work out which way to look. I tend to use the History list instead
as it's quicker with a long list of items.

>>> 6. The code that manages the scroll button on the mouse seems to have
>>> been reprogrammed to allow a click on that button to launch links in new
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>> and STANDARD behavior of the mouse scroll button and it is now messed in
>>> IE7.

Works fine here - maybe it's a mouse driver issue, or yet again an
incompatible add-on.

>>> 7. I sometimes use to drag a link on the address bar when I want to open
>>> a link in that same browser window (for example, when I know that a link
>>> would otherwise open in a new window). With IE7, strangely, this works
>>> almost everywhere in the interface EXCEPT on the address bar. It works
>>> if I drag a link on the title bar, it works too on the toolbar, but on
>>> the address bar, I get a forbidden sign.

Is it so hard to drag the link to a position a couple of mm away? Once you
get used to it you won't even notice the change.

>>> 8. Before, it was possible to drag'n'drop a link on the Startup page
>>> button in order to setup a new startup page. This doesn't work anymore
>>> with IE7.

How often do you change startup pages?

>>> All these reasons make me continue using IE6 SP2 as long as it won't be
>>> unsupported. I really hate IE7. Really a shame that IE7 still has these
>>> caveats as a final version. :(

The links to fix some of the issues I posted above took less than 10 seconds
to find using Google. You might well find workarounds to the other issues by
doing the same, or at least information explaining why it can't be done that
way.

Dan
Robert Aldwinckle - 18 Jun 2007 22:46 GMT
>I dont know why I cant save my favourite pages and make them available
> offline, since installing this (IE7) though windows update.

In fact, you can.   You just can't do it in IE any more.
Use the  Favorites  bar with   %windir%\Offline Web Pages
open in an Explorer window, for example.

> Infact I cant find lots of things.

Such as?

> I'm also sick of the errors, the windows has experienced an error and needs
> to shut down sorry for the inconvenience, the error reports,

Details?

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