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Windows Forum / Internet Explorer / General Topics / July 2008Microsoft, please at least give us our old functions!
Alas, too late I learned about the terrible interface of 7.0, and about the difficulty of uninstalling and reverting to 6.0! Please, Microsoft, allow us to configure our toolbars. Why would you take away this function we already had? If this is a downgrade from 6.0, you should have warned us with an asterisk, or by making the version number lower. The ability to place buttons and bars where we want them would have mitigated the terrible design of your new interface. My Lord, the navigation buttons — Back, Refresh, Home, and Favorites — are about as far away from each other as they could be!! If you won't do it in your original design, why not at least let us put our commands where they are convenient for us? I'd also like to be able to search a page for text without having to open and entirely new toolbar (the menu bar), and then select the 'find' option from a drop-down menu. Can we have buttons that allow us to access the features we use? Tabs — ok, I can appreciate tabs. But what if we would rather have the extra space in the browser window? Why won't you let us remove or hide this bar? And why, oh, why do you torment us with the inability to easily revert to the previous version? Troubleshooting may not be our favourite thing to do with our time. Are you tired of this relationship? Are you pushing us toward Firefox and Opera because you don't want us any more? Why, Microsoft, why? Oh I completely agree .. I want the file bar on top, then the icons, or possibly on the same line, and then underneath the url field. and I HATE"!!!!! the search bar thing. what is taht ? that is stupid. If I want to do a search I will go to a search page. I don't want it imbedded in my browser. WHYYYY Can't you atleast let that be optional ? and I so don't like the tab look, but atleast I figured out how to make those disappear under internet options. It is so annoying however that you can't move around with the toolbars to get the look you want. I really don't like the netscape look IE has gotten. If I wanted looks like Netscape or Firefox, then I would use them .. I want IE 6 back .. how do I do that ?? > Alas, too late I learned about the terrible interface of 7.0, and about the > difficulty of uninstalling and reverting to 6.0! [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Why, Microsoft, why? so true!! its not that hard to uninstall tho... but what a waste of time! > Alas, too late I learned about the terrible interface of 7.0, and about the > difficulty of uninstalling and reverting to 6.0! [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Why, Microsoft, why? Agree 110%. Until recently, I have never considered switching to FireFox, even though that seems to be the trendy thing to do these days. I just don't care enough about web browsers, in general, to have two different ones installed. All I want to be able to do, with my effing *WEB BROWSER*, is to browse web pages. And up until now, IE has been pretty good at doing that -- at least good enough that I've never really cared one way or the other. Ok, great, so now I hear there's a new version. Honestly, I wasn't even going to install it. But it showed up as an automatic update. Hmm... Ok, well, what the heck? These flashy new IE7 "tabs" sound pretty cool, so I'll give it a try. Surprise! You're also getting a search bar! And an address bar that you can't move! What's that? You already have Google toolbar installed? Too bad! You're getting another search bar, and they CAN'T SHARE THE SAME ROW, so now you have THREE rows of toolbars, two of which do the same thing! Oh, except that one of them doesn't have spell check and that other stuff that you need your Google toolbar for. Hmm... Ok, not a good first impression. But I'm sure I can just quickly do some right-clicking and get rid of that unnecessary search box. Umm... It must be here somewhere... Err... Ahhhh... Ok, I guess I'm stuck with that. I'll just move my Google bar up next to it to save a little space... Uhhh... Errrmmmm... Ok, can't do that either. Maybe it can share a row with the tab bar... NO! Well can I turn off the address bar? NO! Can I turn off the tab bar? NO! Can't move them. Can't turn them off. Gee, I think I'll go back to IE6. Wait! What's that? Microsoft decided to make that a pain in the a.s, too! Wonderful. Exactly what I always wanted in a web browser -- 15% of the browser being DEAD SPACE that I can't get rid of, unless I go into full-screen mode. Which I don't. Why? Good question. Microsoft's answer, so far, is that it makes IE7 safer. Ok, so what about the half-dozen or so of us IE users who aren't complete morons, and don't need our toolbars locked in place to make us feel safer? Can you please give us a button to deactivate IE7's new retard mode, so that we can go back to just browsing the web? I'm going to give it about a week and see if the widespread dissatisfaction with IE7 actually prompts some sort of fix from Microsoft. If not, I'm going to have to decide which pain in the a.s is worse -- reverting to IE6 or installing FireFox. WordEdgewise wrote: > Alas, too late I learned about the terrible interface of 7.0, and > about the difficulty of uninstalling and reverting to 6.0! [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Why, Microsoft, why? It is very simple to take out. As long as you have not run any registry cleaners or anything like that. Just go to control panel, add and remove programs and remove I.E.7. I.E.6 will be restored. Do not try to take it out using system restore though some have created problems that way. Steve > Agree 110%. Until recently, I have never considered switching to > FireFox, even though that seems to be the trendy thing to do these days. [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] >> >> Why, Microsoft, why? I'm using my wife's laptop now for browsing with IE6. Using IE7 has reduced rendering time rivaling dial-ups, and I'm using broadband! I waited several minutes for www.microcenter.com to render where normally it takes a couple of seconds. I'm pissed! > It is very simple to take out. As long as you have not run any registry > cleaners or anything like that. Just go to control panel, add and remove [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > >> > >> Why, Microsoft, why? I can understand that. However it is not suppose to be that way, mine is fast. Have you tried running without ad ons to see if something is hanging it up. Steve > I'm using my wife's laptop now for browsing with IE6. Using IE7 has > reduced [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] >> >> >> >> Why, Microsoft, why? Doesn't matter ,even if you use the firefox browser it still has to have the IE attached,i have firefox,aol and IE all of which close when I try to load games on them... this didn't happen until this upgrade took place..and I had to do a restore to get IE back to even search..I am disabled and this is all I do but now I cant even do that,thanks to this GREAT upgrade.. > Agree 110%. Until recently, I have never considered switching to > FireFox, even though that seems to be the trendy thing to do these days. [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > > > > Why, Microsoft, why? And what about the stupidity of having multiple IE windows accessed from one button on the main toolbar (the one containing the Start button). And sometimes there is more than one button on this toolbar accessing one or more IE windows. You can no longer maximise/minimise windows with a single click. First you have to click on the button to see if it accesses multiple windows, and if one of them is the one you want. Then right click and track up the dropdown menu to wherever. This causes lots of other problems, which are difficult to put into words but which can be summarised with the simple question "why did they (Microsoft) have to make it so hard?" > Agree 110%. Until recently, I have never considered switching to > FireFox, even though that seems to be the trendy thing to do these days. [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > > > > Why, Microsoft, why? "And what about the stupidity of having multiple IE windows accessed from one button on the main toolbar..." Control Panel > Taskbar and Start Menu > Taskbar tab > remove the checkmark from 'Group similar taskbar buttons'. In general, something is not 'stupidity' just because you don't understand it. --- Leonard Grey Errare humanum est > And what about the stupidity of having multiple IE windows accessed from one > button on the main toolbar (the one containing the Start button). And [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] >>> >>> Why, Microsoft, why? "In general, something is not 'stupidity' just because you don't understand it". Oh, I understood how it works all right. I just think it is needlessly messianic and definitely not an improvement. > "And what about the stupidity of having multiple IE windows accessed > from one button on the main toolbar..." [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > >>> > >>> Why, Microsoft, why? Hi Tom, The Google toolbar (v4) has a known feature of hijacking the Toolbar layout in IE7 (prevents you from moving all your toolbars to the one line) Download and install the beta v5 from toolbar.google.com to correct the problem. Other known layout hijackers are Yahoo - corrected in their latest version Live - latest version untested.. WOT Regards. > And what about the stupidity of having multiple IE windows accessed from > one [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] >> > >> > Why, Microsoft, why? > I'd also like to be able to search a page for text without having to open > and entirely new toolbar (the menu bar), and then select the 'find' option > from a drop-down menu. Control-F  SignatureBob http://www.kanyak.com >> I'd also like to be able to search a page for text without having to open >> and entirely new toolbar (the menu bar), and then select the 'find' >> option >> from a drop-down menu. > > Control-F Which IE6 also had...... > The ability to place buttons and bars where we want them would have > mitigated the terrible design of your new interface. My Lord, the > navigation > buttons - Back, Refresh, Home, and Favorites - are about as far away from > each other as they could be!! Wow! It takes about 0.1 seconds to switch from one to the other! What else can you do in that time? > I'd also like to be able to search a page for text without having to open > and entirely new toolbar (the menu bar), and then select the 'find' option > from a drop-down menu. Can we have buttons that allow us to access the > features we use? Didn't think there was a "find in page" button in IE6 either......in fact there isn't - I've just checked.... > Tabs - ok, I can appreciate tabs. But what if we would rather have the > extra [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the previous version? Troubleshooting may not be our favourite thing to do > with our time. Control Panel-Add/Remove Programs and uninstall. How easy is that? Hello, @WordEdgewise > Please, Microsoft, allow us to configure our toolbars. Why would you take away this function we already had? I have tried to answer this question briefly in Why is the address bar in IE7 static? http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?dg=micro soft.public.internetexplorer.general&mid=368c504b-0a3a-4048-84f5-bd1317c428b1&sl oc=en-us > I'd also like to be able to search a page for text without having to open > and entirely new toolbar (the menu bar), and then select the 'find' option > from a drop-down menu. Can we have buttons that allow us to access the > features we use? There are some add-ons available (like Quero or "Inline Search" http://www.ieaddons.com/SearchResults.aspx?keywords=inline+search) that have implemented find as you type for IE. > Tabs - ok, I can appreciate tabs. But what if we would rather have the extra > space in the browser window? Why won't you let us remove or hide this bar? Actually, the tabbed browsing bar can be removed by turning tabbed browsing off and by removing the command bar. Turn off tabbed browsing Open Internet Options > Panel Tabs > Settins > Uncheck "Enable tabbed browsing" Remove the command bar You have to edit the regitry: Run regedit Navigate to: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\CommandBar Create a new REG_DWORD value named Enabled and set the value to 0. hth Viktor Signaturehttp://www.quero.at/ The New Web Experience I agree. I've always hated repetition of features that wastes screen space in a program. For example, in the tabs row in IE7, the "Command Bar", the favorites control icons to the left of the tabs, and even the tabs themselves are repetitions of what is available in the menu bar (File, Edit, etc.) and keyboard commands. You can get the same function as the tabs themselves by just pressing Ctrl-n. You get a new tab at the bottom of your screen, to the right of the Start menu. I have switched back to IE6! Leafgreen The Best and the Latest at http://HomeGear.com > Alas, too late I learned about the terrible interface of 7.0, and about the > difficulty of uninstalling and reverting to 6.0! [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Why, Microsoft, why? Didn't you hear? AOL has taken over MS. If you have any doubts, just look at the 'protect me from myself' interface of IE7 & Vista. That type of software development made AOL the number one software/internet company in the world...didn't it? Oh, wait...AOL has to GIVE AWAY their service now... Why MS decided that is the path to take is beyond my comprehension, but the evidence is visible in every new release. SignatureA Professional Amateur...If anyone knew it all, none of would be here! CarGodZeroOne@hotmail.com Change Alpha to Numeric to reply >I agree. I've always hated repetition of features that wastes screen space >in [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >> >> Why, Microsoft, why? |
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