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IE 7 and HP Director
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Minopj - 02 Dec 2006 17:15 GMT Since installing IE 7 I am unable to get my HP Director to open. Any suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem?
Gordon - 02 Dec 2006 17:50 GMT > Since installing IE 7 I am unable to get my HP Director to open. Any > suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? How about searching for some of the many posts about this?
Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User - 02 Dec 2006 17:52 GMT HP have the repair for this..
> Since installing IE 7 I am unable to get my HP Director to open. Any > suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Oldjakd - 02 Dec 2006 21:31 GMT Way to 'pass the buck' for this piece of junk program that came 'unsolicited' thru my 'automatic updates'.. This thing caused me hours of frustration. Judging by all the other discussions, it really is a piece of junk program.. I deleted it one last time and shut off my automatic updates..
> HP have the repair for this.. > > > Since installing IE 7 I am unable to get my HP Director to open. Any > > suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User - 02 Dec 2006 22:26 GMT Good for you.. it works for many, me included.. HP knew for some considerable while that there was a problem and made little effort to correct it in timely fashion..
> Way to 'pass the buck' for this piece of junk program that came > 'unsolicited' thru my 'automatic updates'.. This thing caused me hours of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> > Since installing IE 7 I am unable to get my HP Director to open. Any >> > suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Minopj - 03 Dec 2006 02:39 GMT IE7 is a pain in the butt, but thanks to Mike Hall's suggestion I went to HP and they gave me the link to fix it. It took 4 hours to get it accomplished but it's working fine now. Thank You Mike.
> Good for you.. it works for many, me included.. HP knew for some > considerable while that there was a problem and made little effort to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >> > Since installing IE 7 I am unable to get my HP Director to open. Any > >> > suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Oldjakd - 03 Dec 2006 05:56 GMT Why would I want to spend 4 hours trying to make this IE7 junk work? I don't mind spending 4 hours trying to start my car when it BREAKS for some reason but I sure as hell mind when I get a program from someone I used to trust and then have to spend 4 hours trying to make it work.. IE7 is a pieceof crap and should be reported to CNN, the cyber police, and consumers report.. Mike Hall and Sandi are better at passing the buck than getiing the program right..
> IE7 is a pain in the butt, but thanks to Mike Hall's suggestion I went to HP > and they gave me the link to fix it. It took 4 hours to get it accomplished [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > >> > Since installing IE 7 I am unable to get my HP Director to open. Any > > >> > suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User - 03 Dec 2006 11:40 GMT HP were aware for the longest time that some users of HP products would be affected, yet failed to deliver a fix in reasonable time.. in what way are either Sandi or I passing the buck here?..
> Why would I want to spend 4 hours trying to make this IE7 junk work? I > don't [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> > >> > Any >> > >> > suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Michel Doucet - 03 Dec 2006 12:05 GMT Le Sun, 03 Dec 2006 06:40:43 -0500, Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User a caressé son clavier pour nous dire :
> HP were aware for the longest time that some users of HP products would be > affected, yet failed to deliver a fix in reasonable time.. Do you think it's normal that a simple upgrade in a browser makes so much troubles with a lot of softs ?
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Alias - 03 Dec 2006 12:30 GMT > Le Sun, 03 Dec 2006 06:40:43 -0500, Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User > a caressé son clavier pour nous dire : [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Do you think it's normal that a simple upgrade in a browser makes so much > troubles with a lot of softs ? Nowadays, with Microsoft, yes, it's normal. Just wait until Vista hits the streets in late January ...
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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User - 03 Dec 2006 16:34 GMT IE7 was beta tested for over a year.. everybody had their chance to fix any problems.. HP knew from early in the test that some of their software would cause problems.. their invasive software, that constantly asks if you want to let it look to see if you have the latest versions, could so easily have been used to send out updates such that when IE7 was installed there would be no problems.. BUT they didn't..
Ask HP why they failed this time, just as they did with the release of XP and their failure to provide drivers for some goods while after XP's release..
> Le Sun, 03 Dec 2006 06:40:43 -0500, Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User > a caressé son clavier pour nous dire : [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Do you think it's normal that a simple upgrade in a browser makes so much > troubles with a lot of softs ? Michel Doucet - 03 Dec 2006 16:49 GMT Le Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:34:03 -0500, Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User a caressé son clavier pour nous dire :
> IE7 was beta tested for over a year.. everybody had their chance to fix > any problems.. HP knew from early in the test that some of their software > would cause problems.. their invasive software, that constantly asks if > you want to let it look to see if you have the latest versions, could so > easily have been used to send out updates such that when IE7 was installed > there would be no problems.. BUT they didn't.. It's usual with MS either it's the end user fault or it's the software vendors ... I'm afraid to see the coming Vista ... perhaps it will works with Word, Excel and Powerpoint ? Third party softs do not help Bill incomes ....
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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User - 03 Dec 2006 17:07 GMT Manufacturers have said that they will get device drivers out for Vista during January.. they may or may not supply drivers for all hardware, especially older stuff because they will want to make money out of selling new equipment.. MS can't be blamed for this
Software authors (the major players and some small outfits) have also pledged to get software out that works with Vista, either by way of patches or new versions.. MS can't be blamed for this either..
All any of us can do is wait and see..
And on the subject of blame, the most prevalent fault with any computer is still the operator.. nothing has changed.. MS are not responsible for somebody installing an operating system that is not compatible with owned hardware, neither are they responsible for 3rd party software that doesn't work..
Upgrade advisors can be run that will show any problems.. more people should take advantage of the facility instead of blindly installing the latest and greatest..
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/upgradeadvisor/default.mspx
> Le Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:34:03 -0500, Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User > a caressé son clavier pour nous dire : [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > with Word, Excel and Powerpoint ? Third party softs do not help Bill > incomes .... Glenn S. - 04 Dec 2006 00:02 GMT "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general...
>MS can't be blamed for this True. Because everything is everyone else's fault.
More and more, Microsoft is starting to remind me of a bunch of drunks...
- They're arrogant. - They blame the problems they create on everyone else. - They can't fix their problem, because they won't admit they have a problem. - They think they know everything, even though things under their control are in disarray. - They go to lots of meetings, but when they come out, they're still screwed up.
If they can make up a 12 step program for people who shop too much, I'm sure they can come up with one for those who pray to the Northwest.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Glenn S. Non-computer nerd user of IE6.
If you don't like Internet Explorer 7, and want to go back to IE6, go to Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs. Find Windows Internet Explorer 7, highlight it, and click "Remove". That will take you back to IE6. The roll-back process worked for me, for which I am grateful to Microsoft.
Glenn S. - 04 Dec 2006 00:02 GMT "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general...
>IE7 was beta tested for over a year.. everybody had their chance to fix any >problems.. Yep. IE7's being total crap is everyone else's fault but Micro$oft's.
>HP knew from early in the test that some of their software would >cause problems.. their invasive software, That's funny. Micro$oft calling some else's software invasive.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Glenn S. Non-computer nerd user of IE6.
If you don't like Internet Explorer 7, and want to go back to IE6, go to Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs. Find Windows Internet Explorer 7, highlight it, and click "Remove". That will take you back to IE6. The roll-back process worked for me, for which I am grateful to Microsoft.
Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User - 04 Dec 2006 00:34 GMT HP admitted to the problem, and I was the person who called HP printer support software invasive..
> "Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in > microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > That will take you back to IE6. The roll-back process worked > for me, for which I am grateful to Microsoft. Oldjakd - 03 Dec 2006 12:30 GMT I don't see it that way.. What I see is: 'MICROSOFT' knew that IE7 didn't always work and failed to correct the problem and decided it was easier to , 'blame' the 'end users'.. If I replaced my starter motor and it blew up my engine, You guys, would say; 'it's the way I installed it or it was the car manufacturers fault'..
> HP were aware for the longest time that some users of HP products would be > affected, yet failed to deliver a fix in reasonable time.. in what way are [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > >> > >> > Any > >> > >> > suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User - 03 Dec 2006 16:36 GMT You don't see it that way because you don't want to see it that way..
Your choice entirely to ignore the facts and perpetuate the myth..
> I don't see it that way.. What I see is: 'MICROSOFT' knew that IE7 didn't > always work and failed to correct the problem and decided it was easier to [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >> >> > >> > Any >> >> > >> > suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Alias - 03 Dec 2006 11:47 GMT > Why would I want to spend 4 hours trying to make this IE7 junk work? I don't > mind spending 4 hours trying to start my car when it BREAKS for some reason [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Mike Hall and Sandi are better at passing the buck than getiing the program > right.. Everything MS does is divine for those two. Now you know that you should wait before installing anything new from Microsoft while the bugs are taken out. Same thing holds true for Vista, WMP11 and any other "final" releases from MS.
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>> IE7 is a pain in the butt, but thanks to Mike Hall's suggestion I went to HP >> and they gave me the link to fix it. It took 4 hours to get it accomplished [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>>>>> Since installing IE 7 I am unable to get my HP Director to open. Any >>>>>> suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Glenn S. - 03 Dec 2006 16:18 GMT Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general...
>Now you know that you should >wait before installing anything new from Microsoft while the bugs are >taken out. IE7 taught me that lesson very well.
>Same thing holds true for Vista, WMP11 and any other "final" >releases from MS. Since Vista was developed by Microsoft at the same time IE7 was, I will NEVER install it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Glenn S. Non-computer nerd user of IE6.
If you don't like Internet Explorer 7, and want to go back to IE6, go to Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs. Find Windows Internet Explorer 7, highlight it, and click "Remove". That will take you back to IE6. The roll-back process worked for me, for which I am grateful to Microsoft.
Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User - 03 Dec 2006 16:36 GMT Ubuntu awaits you..
>> Why would I want to spend 4 hours trying to make this IE7 junk work? I >> don't mind spending 4 hours trying to start my car when it BREAKS for [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >>>>>>> Since installing IE 7 I am unable to get my HP Director to open. Any >>>>>>> suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Alias - 03 Dec 2006 18:45 GMT > Ubuntu awaits you.. I plan to keep XP as long as I can. After all, I did pay for and I like it. I will learn Ubuntu and it will take me some time as I am not a techie like you. I do have a friend who was dealing with Unix probably before you were born and when he gets back from the States, we will be looking at a number of Linux OSes for our own use and for his clients' use.
So, you can stop your "Ubuntu awaits you" crap.
Alias
>>> Why would I want to spend 4 hours trying to make this IE7 junk work? >>> I don't mind spending 4 hours trying to start my car when it BREAKS [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >>>>>>>> Any >>>>>>>> suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User - 03 Dec 2006 20:16 GMT Your friend was a Unix techie back before 1953? wow.. so all this talk of people trying out Ubuntu on your recommendation is phooey as you have no idea how to work with it yourself?
Your credibility is fair running away from you.. I remember Unix/AIX well from my days as an RS/6000 engineer.. Ubuntu wasn't around way back then.. maybe you were not either..
>> Ubuntu awaits you.. > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >>>>>>>>> Any >>>>>>>>> suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Alias - 04 Dec 2006 00:35 GMT > Your friend was a Unix techie back before 1953? wow.. so all this talk > of people trying out Ubuntu on your recommendation is phooey as you have > no idea how to work with it yourself? OK, when you were a teen ager. I said I showed it to people, not that they were trying it out. They liked what they say and them, like me, are not techies. Got it now?
> Your credibility is fair running away from you.. I remember Unix/AIX > well from my days as an RS/6000 engineer.. Ubuntu wasn't around way back > then.. No $hit.
> maybe you were not either.. I've been around longer than you have. I am not, nor ever claimed to be, a computer tech. or engineer. My friend is one. The person who has offered to help me with Ubuntu next week is not my friend but someone I met on these newsgroups.
Alias
>>> Ubuntu awaits you.. >> [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >>>>>>>>>> open. Any >>>>>>>>>> suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User - 04 Dec 2006 03:20 GMT It's not getting any better for you..
You showed people an operating system about which you know zero, and they liked what they saw.. well, I saw and liked the new style Greyhound bus, but I am not about to start driving one..
Your friend's time spent with Unix is completely irrelevant to any topic in here, and your associate, met in a newsgroup, is going to need more than 'Ubuntu Week' to show you the Linux ropes..
You have posted a link to a site that criticizes MS re. innovations, and how MS acquired other stuff.. MS never claim to be inventors, but they are innovators, and have brought together enough stuff and given it a good polishing such that people like you can get into a computer and do something half meaningful. And what were your remarks on the posted site? That MS stole a whole bunch of stuff? Read the wording on the website, and you will see that they legitimately acquired stuff, either by buying or agreeing rights. Many companies do this. It is a shortcut to getting technology or a product that will enhance the range already offered. If you do a bit of surfing, you will find that the competing Office Suites did exactly the same, but with way less style.
So how do you see your credibility rating?
People like me come here to try to help people get a better computing experience from MS products. We all do it voluntarily. Much as people like you try to thwart us, many leave here with their problems fixed. Of course, there will always be those that can't be helped for one reason or another.
Re. IE7, I have installed it in a few computers now, and have had no problem so doing. Yes, the look has changed, and No, it is not too customizable, but it is a very capable browser and will become everything and more than ever IE6 was. One has to remember that when IE6 was intro'd, there were more than a few pages that wouldn't resolve because the pages had been coded to look exclusively for IE5. Some complained that there was nothing much new and how come it looked like the old one. Others griped about not having enough viewing space, and no tabs like FF. IE7 has the features that people wanted, but there are some who are just never happy, and have to try to find fault.
MS is not perfect, but they do try and have succeeded where others haven't. If Steve Jobs had the business acumen of Bill Gates, you would no doubt be taking shots at Mac stuff, but history tells another story.If you are going to come here, at least try to be helpful. I ask this not for myself, but the those who come here for help in using IE, be it whatever version.
And before you suggest that I may be losing self control (never yet seen by anybody), ensure that you are not about to lose yours.
>> Your friend was a Unix techie back before 1953? wow.. so all this talk of >> people trying out Ubuntu on your recommendation is phooey as you have no [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] >>>>>>>>>>> Any >>>>>>>>>>> suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User - 03 Dec 2006 11:39 GMT You're welcome..
> IE7 is a pain in the butt, but thanks to Mike Hall's suggestion I went to > HP [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> > Since installing IE 7 I am unable to get my HP Director to open. Any >> >> > suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Minopj - 03 Dec 2006 16:50 GMT I thought this was a site where if you have a problem you come here and you would hopefully provide me with some help. Here is what I learned from you all.
Gordon knows where the answer is but he isn't telling.
Mike Hall knew where the answer was and he told me. I went and had the problem solved. Thanks Mike.
Oldjakd, he hates MS, Mike Hall, Sandi and IE7. He provided no information that would answer my question. I did learn he spends a lot of time fixing his car that I'm sure he bought from a "trusted" source too.
Alias had the right solution for those who thrive on creating hate and discontent. Don't buy right away, wait till the bugs are worked out. I waited 18 months before I switched to XP and I'm happy with it.
For those of you who provided nothing to solve my problem, please move on to another thread because I don't care how much you hate the system or anybody connected with it. If you cannot provide help, PLEASE move on.
> You're welcome.. > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >> >> > Since installing IE 7 I am unable to get my HP Director to open. Any > >> >> > suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User - 03 Dec 2006 17:09 GMT Well said, and ty..
>I thought this was a site where if you have a problem you come here and you > would hopefully provide me with some help. Here is what I learned from you [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >> >> >> > Any >> >> >> > suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Bill Carow - 28 Apr 2008 19:14 GMT > Since installing IE 7 I am unable to get my HP Director to open. Any > suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Doug W. - 29 Apr 2008 06:54 GMT HP has a Hotfix for the problem...go there. I did and it fixed the problem.
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>> Since installing IE 7 I am unable to get my HP Director to >> open. Any >> suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem? Bill Carow - 28 Apr 2008 19:24 GMT > Since installing IE 7 I am unable to get my HP Director to open. Any > suggestions on hoow to open it or repair the problem?
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