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bman342 - 22 Dec 2006 22:55 GMT
I have three computers at home that I upgraded to IE7.

On each of the computers quite frequently IE7 closes down with the message
about Adobe Flash Player 9.

Each time I send the report to Microsoft. This has been happening ever since
I upgraded to IE7.

I have MS automatic updates set-up on each computer as well.

Is this a known issue that is being addressed for IE7 or is it an Adobe
problem?
Rick - 23 Dec 2006 05:32 GMT
I would like to also know about this. I have the Flash issue where flash will
not stay installed. I see this is a serious error as a lot of people post on
the net about it but there is no talk from MS about it. I have tried the
uninstall/reinstall fix mentioned by everyone and it does not work. Does
anyone here know of a solution for this issue? IE7 is the issue, not flash. I
have even tried using flash player 8 and that doesnt fix it. This prolblem
only started when I upgraded to IE7.

Thanks,
Rick

> I have three computers at home that I upgraded to IE7.
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Is this a known issue that is being addressed for IE7 or is it an Adobe
> problem?
TaurArian [MS-MVP] - 23 Dec 2006 06:13 GMT
You could try uninstalling and reinstalling flash - no guarantees

1. How to uninstall the Adobe Flash Player plug-in and ActiveX control
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14157
Due to recent enhancements with the Flash Player installers, you are now only able to
uninstall by using the Adobe Flash Player Uninstaller

2. Then get Flash here: http://www.adobe.com/downloads/

more info:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_19166
or easy link: http://www.adobe.com/go/tn_19166

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|I have three computers at home that I upgraded to IE7.
|
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| Is this a known issue that is being addressed for IE7 or is it an Adobe
| problem?
Edward W. Thompson - 23 Dec 2006 06:49 GMT
>I have three computers at home that I upgraded to IE7.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Is this a known issue that is being addressed for IE7 or is it an Adobe
> problem?

It's a Microsoft problem but nothing you can do about it.  The problem
arises from a recent 'update' and is the result of a 'spat' between
Microsoft and a California organisation (Eolas) over a 'rights' issue.  If
you 'Google' you will find a comprehensive explanation
(http://www.baekdal.com/articles/Technology/microsoft-ie-activex-update/).
I understand if you uninstall the 'update' things should return as before.
On the otherhand simply ditch IE7 and use Firefox which is unaffected.  I
can't remember the 'update' which caused the problem but you will find it if
you 'Google' for 'IE7 and Flash problems'.

What I find difficult to understand is the mis-information posted by the
'experts' (MVPs) on this matter, standard 'reinstall' and the like.
Presumeably they don't want to place the issue at the door of Microsoft.
Bob - 25 Dec 2006 00:55 GMT
>I have three computers at home that I upgraded to IE7.
>
> On each of the computers quite frequently IE7 closes down with the message
> about Adobe Flash Player 9.
> ...

I get this sometimes as well and it's reported as a Flash9b.ocx fault. That's a Shockwave Flash Object
that's loaded on demand. I think there's a problem sometimes when it first loads but after that the site
works as it should. Here's what Event Viewer reports:

Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 7.0.5730.11, faulting module flash9b.ocx, version 9.0.28.0, fault address 0x00099589.

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Regards Bob

Edward W. Thompson - 25 Dec 2006 05:43 GMT
>>I have three computers at home that I upgraded to IE7.
>>
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> Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 7.0.5730.11, faulting module
> flash9b.ocx, version 9.0.28.0, fault address 0x00099589.

Really, and why is the problem limited to IE7?  No the problem is due to a
recent 'update' by Microsoft arising from a rights dispute with Eolas.
Essentially the update has prevented Flash from loading in anmy of the IE
versions.  If you are really interested in tyhe 'nuts and bolts' just
'Google' for IE7 and Flash poroblems'.  If you use Firefox you will find
Flash loads when required.
Donald Anadell - 25 Dec 2006 16:45 GMT
>>>I have three computers at home that I upgraded to IE7.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 7.0.5730.11, faulting module
>> flash9b.ocx, version 9.0.28.0, fault address 0x00099589.

| Really, and why is the problem limited to IE7?

Because Microsoft was the only Browser maker that was sued by Eolas for this
patent infringement. They knew Microsoft had deep pockets and thought they
were going to make millions of dollars off Microsoft in Licensing Fees.  But
Microsoft decided they would change the way Objects such as Flash are
handled when they are loaded directly from the Html content of a page to
avoid having to pay these Fees, hence the subquent Patch for IE6 that your
article refers to.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/912945

| No the problem is due to a
| recent 'update' by Microsoft arising from a rights dispute with Eolas.

No, the problem the OP is having has no bearing what so ever on the issues
surrounding Microsoft's settlement with Eolas and the sequent Patch that was
issued for IE6 with regard to this settlement.  The Patch for IE6 that was
issued back in June of this year only affects the way you interact with
Objects such as Flash when they are loaded directly by the Html file.
Microsoft issued information to Web Developers well in advance of this Patch
as to how Objects(such as Flash) now have to be loaded if they want the
Object to instantiate in the Browser without having to click on the Object
in the web page to activate them:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/ieupdate/

| Essentially the update has prevented Flash from loading in anmy of the IE
| versions.

Again, you are incorrect.  I have absolutely no problem with the new Flash
Player Plug-in "Flash9b.ocx" loading in either IE Browser version here.  On
my machines it loads correctly in both IE6 and IE7.  If you are getting a
dotted line around Flash object(or for that matter any Object) in a Web page
and a "Click to active" message when you hover your mouse over the object-it
is because the site Developer has not taken the necessary steps to avoid
this issue.

With a fully patched version of IE6 or an Installation of IE7 out of the
box, all Objects must now be loaded from external .js files on web sites now
in order for them to be instantiated by the IE Browser, if they are loaded
directly by the HTML file on the site then you will have to click on them to
activate them.

Microsoft, Adobe, and Quicktime have plently of information on how this new
behavior for instanciating Objects in the Browser(IE6 fully patched, and
IE7) along with methods for Web Developers to use to load Objects after this
Browser change that took affect back on June:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/dhtml/overvie
w/activating_activex.asp

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/activecontent/
http://developer.apple.com/internet/ieembedprep.html

| If you are really interested in tyhe 'nuts and bolts' just
| 'Google' for IE7 and Flash poroblems'.

You are correct, but one need to look a lot farther than the Year Old
Article that you are ascribing to in order to get to the "Nuts and Bolts".

| If you use Firefox you will find
| Flash loads when required.

This is because they haven't yet been sued by Eolas, Firefox as well as all
other Browsers that instantiate Objects loaded directly by the Html file are
guilty of the same Patent Infringement, they just haven't been brought to
court on this issue the way Microsoft has.

My guess as to the OP's problem, is that there is an installation problem
with either IE7, the Flash Plug, or both.  Since this problem is not
occuring for everyone-and again I iterate that I'm having now problem with
the latest Flash9b.ocx player here on either IE6 or IE7-that the problem
must be with his||her configuration.

Happy Holidays,

Donald Anadell
Bob - 25 Dec 2006 22:40 GMT
> ....
> My guess as to the OP's problem, is that there is an installation problem with either IE7, the Flash Plug, or both.

In my case it is a fresh install of slipstreamed XP Pro SP2 with all the Windows updates.
I am an experienced user of many years and it is not an installation problem but if it is
a configuration problem that has arisen please enlighten us.

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Regards Bob

Donald Anadell - 26 Dec 2006 01:15 GMT
Hi Bob,

Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers with my remarks in this thread(if I did I
certainly apologize for it), my only intention was to counter the remarks
made by Edward W. Thompson regarding the Eolas settlement as being the root
cause of any Flash Player problems being experienced with IE7.

As I stated in my Reply, I'm using the latest Flash Plug-in Player
"Flash9b.ocx" on two machines...one with XPSP2 IE6 installed on it, and the
another machine with XPSP2 IE7 installed on it...and haven't experienced any
random faults with loading the Flash player in the Browser as you've
described.

As far as I can tell, as long as "Flash9b.ocx" is located in the following
folder on your system:

C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash

And the following Registry Keys are all pointing to that file in that
location:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{1171A62F-05D2-11D1-83FC-00A0C9089C5A}\InprocServer32
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\InprocServer32
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{D27CDB70-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\InprocServer32
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\TypeLib\{D27CDB6B-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000}\1.0\0\win32
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{1171A62F-05D2-11D1-83FC-00A0C9089C5A}\InprocServer32
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\InprocServer32
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB70-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\InprocServer32
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\TypeLib\{D27CDB6B-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000}\1.0\0\win32

Then the Flash Plug-in Player is installed properly.

My only problems with IE7 and the Flash Plug-in have arisen as a result of
the new security feature in IE7 called "Cross-Domain protection feature".
That problem arises when you try to click on a link that is linking directly
to a Flash file on the web where the link is in the form of:
http://some.server.com/some.swf

In this situation, the .swf file will not render in the IE7 Browser and you
get a script error on the status bar.  This is caused by this new
Cross-Domain protection feature, and the only option I've been able to find
so far to avoid this issue is to Opt IE7 out of this new Cross-Domain
protection feature.
You'll find details on how to Opt IE7 out of this new feature in the
following thread:

"IE7 and swf files" Posted on Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:38:57 by DaveM

As to the random faulting problem that you and the OP are experiencing, I'm
afraid I don't have any thing further to add at this point on what might be
causing this, as I'm unable to reproduce the problem here.  I do feel pretty
comfortable saying that this problem you are experiencing doesn't appear to
be a Global problem.

Happy New Year,

Donald Anadell

>> ....
>> My guess as to the OP's problem, is that there is an installation problem
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> problem but if it is
> a configuration problem that has arisen please enlighten us.
Edward W. Thompson - 26 Dec 2006 12:03 GMT
> Hi Bob,
>
[quoted text clipped - 63 lines]
>> problem but if it is
>> a configuration problem that has arisen please enlighten us.

If what you say is correct, then why does Flash 'work' in Firefox and not
with IE7.  It would seem to me that if 'Flash' works as intended in Firefox
then it is reasonable to assume it is installed corectly and the problem
relates to the dispute between Eolas and Microsoft leading to the 'update'
by Microsoft to address the issue.  Perhaps I'm wrong and if so maybe you
can tell me how to get Flash to work in IE7, it does work in Firefox and di
work until I applied the Microsoft update.

If you go to the Adobe Flash forum you will note that I am not alone in
this.
Donald Anadell - 26 Dec 2006 14:34 GMT
>> Hi Bob,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 65 lines]
>>> problem but if it is
>>> a configuration problem that has arisen please enlighten us.

> If what you say is correct, then why does Flash 'work' in Firefox and not
> with IE7.

I share your frustration with this issue Edware, but Flash works perfectly
well here with the IE6 Browser and IE7 Browser, with the latest Flash Player
"Flash9b.ocx" installed.  So it can||should work for you as well.  I can
only think of three reasons that it might not be working for you, a failed
Flash Plug-in installation, a failed IE7 installation, a third party
software conflict, or some combination of all three.

>It would seem to me that if 'Flash' works as intended in Firefox then it is
>reasonable to assume it is installed corectly and the problem relates to
>the dispute between Eolas and Microsoft leading to the 'update' by
>Microsoft to address the issue.

It's not reasonable to assume this, if the new Flash Player Plug-in is
working for me with IE7 installed(and I assume millions of others as well)
then the problems you are experiencing are specific to your system and not
Global in nature.

>Perhaps I'm wrong and if so maybe you can tell me how to get Flash to work
>in IE7, it does work in Firefox and di work until I applied the Microsoft
>update.

You could do the following first to make sure you have the latest version of
the Flash Browser Plug-in and that it is installed properly.

1.  Go to the following Adobe test site and see what version it tells you
that you have installed.
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_15507

If you have the latest Flash Player Plug-in installed
(Flash9b.ocx....version 9,0,28,0)....you will see it indicated in the text
box at this site:

If it shows any version installed that is lower than version 0,0,28,0 then
you do not have the latest Player version installed.

2.  So if the test site shows that you any other version installed(other
than version 9,0,28,0), I would first
go to the download site and try to force a proper download  and install of
version 9,0,28,0:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/

Then go back to the test site and see if the install took.

3.  If it still does not show version 9.0.28,0 as being installed, then go
to the following Adobe site and download the
Flash Player Uninstaller at the site:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14157

After you download the Uninstaller executable file, run it to remove any
Adobe Flash Player you might have currently installed.
(NOTE: make sure you don't have any instances of the Browser open or any
stand alone Flash Player open when you run
the Uninstaller to make sure it deletes all necessary files.)

Then  go back to the Player download site and try the online install of the
Player again:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/

If you are successful here then you can rule out the Flash Plug-in
installation as being the root of your problem.

Next, open IE7 and click on Tools||Manage Add-ons||Enable or Disable
Add-ons..., and disable all "Add-ons currently loaded in Internet Explorer".

Once you've disabled all currently loaded Add-ons, test your Flash and see
if
it works. If it works then you can safely assume there is a conflict between
one of your currently loaded Add-ons and the Flash Player Plug-in.

If Flash still doesn't work even after you disabled all currently loaded
Add-ons, then I would consider Uninstalling IE7 and Reinstalling it to see
if that resolves the issue.

> If you go to the Adobe Flash forum you will note that I am not alone in
> this.

One need not go to any forum other than this one to see that there are a
multitude of problems with individual system configurations out there, but
this is by no means empirical evidence that the problems folks are
experiencing are Global in nature but rather Anecdotal evidence of problems
with individual system configurations.

Good luck Edward, I hope you are able to get this issue resolved.

Donald Anadell
DaveM. - 30 Dec 2006 04:54 GMT
One thing I've noticed since we fixed the ability to play an SWF file
directly in IE7 the other day is that there are still sites that want to
display Flash files that will not display in my IE7.  They are calling the
files up through their HTML but I'm not sure if they are doing it the old
way or the new way.  What gets me is that they won't play in IE if I'm
logged into the computer using my Limited User account (XP Home).  If I log
into my administrator account the same webpage will display the flash file
with no problem.  As a test I upped my limited account to an admin account
and when logged in as that user the flash still will not play.  Could there
be an issue with IE properly configuring itself to play flash files when
it's installed, and doing so correctly for all accounts that exist on the
PC?

>> Hi Bob,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 66 lines]
>>> problem but if it is
>>> a configuration problem that has arisen please enlighten us.

> If what you say is correct, then why does Flash 'work' in Firefox and not
> with IE7.

I share your frustration with this issue Edware, but Flash works perfectly
well here with the IE6 Browser and IE7 Browser, with the latest Flash Player
"Flash9b.ocx" installed.  So it can||should work for you as well.  I can
only think of three reasons that it might not be working for you, a failed
Flash Plug-in installation, a failed IE7 installation, a third party
software conflict, or some combination of all three.

>It would seem to me that if 'Flash' works as intended in Firefox then it is
>reasonable to assume it is installed corectly and the problem relates to
>the dispute between Eolas and Microsoft leading to the 'update' by
>Microsoft to address the issue.

It's not reasonable to assume this, if the new Flash Player Plug-in is
working for me with IE7 installed(and I assume millions of others as well)
then the problems you are experiencing are specific to your system and not
Global in nature.

>Perhaps I'm wrong and if so maybe you can tell me how to get Flash to work
>in IE7, it does work in Firefox and di work until I applied the Microsoft
>update.

You could do the following first to make sure you have the latest version of
the Flash Browser Plug-in and that it is installed properly.

1.  Go to the following Adobe test site and see what version it tells you
that you have installed.
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_15507

If you have the latest Flash Player Plug-in installed
(Flash9b.ocx....version 9,0,28,0)....you will see it indicated in the text
box at this site:

If it shows any version installed that is lower than version 0,0,28,0 then
you do not have the latest Player version installed.

2.  So if the test site shows that you any other version installed(other
than version 9,0,28,0), I would first
go to the download site and try to force a proper download  and install of
version 9,0,28,0:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/

Then go back to the test site and see if the install took.

3.  If it still does not show version 9.0.28,0 as being installed, then go
to the following Adobe site and download the
Flash Player Uninstaller at the site:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14157

After you download the Uninstaller executable file, run it to remove any
Adobe Flash Player you might have currently installed.
(NOTE: make sure you don't have any instances of the Browser open or any
stand alone Flash Player open when you run
the Uninstaller to make sure it deletes all necessary files.)

Then  go back to the Player download site and try the online install of the
Player again:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/

If you are successful here then you can rule out the Flash Plug-in
installation as being the root of your problem.

Next, open IE7 and click on Tools||Manage Add-ons||Enable or Disable
Add-ons..., and disable all "Add-ons currently loaded in Internet Explorer".

Once you've disabled all currently loaded Add-ons, test your Flash and see
if
it works. If it works then you can safely assume there is a conflict between
one of your currently loaded Add-ons and the Flash Player Plug-in.

If Flash still doesn't work even after you disabled all currently loaded
Add-ons, then I would consider Uninstalling IE7 and Reinstalling it to see
if that resolves the issue.

> If you go to the Adobe Flash forum you will note that I am not alone in
> this.

One need not go to any forum other than this one to see that there are a
multitude of problems with individual system configurations out there, but
this is by no means empirical evidence that the problems folks are
experiencing are Global in nature but rather Anecdotal evidence of problems
with individual system configurations.

Good luck Edward, I hope you are able to get this issue resolved.

Donald Anadell
Edward W. Thompson - 30 Dec 2006 07:50 GMT
> One thing I've noticed since we fixed the ability to play an SWF file
> directly in IE7 the other day is that there are still sites that want to
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> files when it's installed, and doing so correctly for all accounts that
> exist on the PC?

snip>

Although I haven't experienced the same problem as you, to get 'Flash'
working 'correctly' (at least I think it is), I had not only to run the
Flash Uninstaller but to manually delete all references to Flash and SWF in
the Registry and delete the Flash folder at c:\windows\system32\macromed;
thern reinstall.   Essentially remove all previous traces of Flash in the
system.  While it is somewhat a chore, perhaps this maybe what you need to
do, that is unless you have already tried that :-).
DaveM. - 30 Dec 2006 15:23 GMT
I have used the uninstaller, but I have not gone so far as to manually
removed any remaining traces before re-installing.  I've done the uninstall
and re-install from both the admin account as well as my normal login
account temporarily upgraded to admin level.  This link
http://www.dancesisterdance.com/myvid/index.php?v=0389781381f56 will play if
I'm logged into my admin account but not if I'm logged into my normal
limited user account.  It will also play just fine in Firefox and Opera
regardless of which account I'm logged into.

> One thing I've noticed since we fixed the ability to play an SWF file
> directly in IE7 the other day is that there are still sites that want to
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> files when it's installed, and doing so correctly for all accounts that
> exist on the PC?

snip>

Although I haven't experienced the same problem as you, to get 'Flash'
working 'correctly' (at least I think it is), I had not only to run the
Flash Uninstaller but to manually delete all references to Flash and SWF in
the Registry and delete the Flash folder at c:\windows\system32\macromed;
thern reinstall.   Essentially remove all previous traces of Flash in the
system.  While it is somewhat a chore, perhaps this maybe what you need to
do, that is unless you have already tried that :-).
Donald Anadell - 30 Dec 2006 15:56 GMT
Hi Dave,

Again, I don't much about limit user accounts.  But the site you posted the
link to requires that Active Scripting be enabled in order for the Flash
file to load in the Browser.  Do you have Active Scripting enabled in the
Limited User Account?

Donald Anadell

>I have used the uninstaller, but I have not gone so far as to manually
>removed any remaining traces before re-installing.  I've done the uninstall
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> system.  While it is somewhat a chore, perhaps this maybe what you need to
> do, that is unless you have already tried that :-).
DaveM. - 30 Dec 2006 16:27 GMT
Yes, active scripting is enabled in IE7 when I check it under the limited
user account.

Hi Dave,

Again, I don't much about limit user accounts.  But the site you posted the
link to requires that Active Scripting be enabled in order for the Flash
file to load in the Browser.  Do you have Active Scripting enabled in the
Limited User Account?

Donald Anadell

>I have used the uninstaller, but I have not gone so far as to manually
>removed any remaining traces before re-installing.  I've done the uninstall
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> system.  While it is somewhat a chore, perhaps this maybe what you need to
> do, that is unless you have already tried that :-).
Donald Anadell - 30 Dec 2006 17:20 GMT
Are you using any Third Party Security program in that Account that may have
a similar feature(block Scripting) activated?  If I disable Active Scripting
in IE7 here and navigate to the site, the sceen is totally black with no
errors on the status bar.  Is this what you are seeing when you navigate to
that site in your limited account?  If so then something is blocking
scripting at that site.

Donald Anadell

> Yes, active scripting is enabled in IE7 when I check it under the limited
> user account.
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>> to
>> do, that is unless you have already tried that :-).
DaveM. - 30 Dec 2006 17:28 GMT
I have Windows Defender running, but that runs in the admin account also.
Other than that I just scan periodically with Adaware, Spybot S&D, CCleaner,
etc, but nothing that stays resident.  I'll change Windows defender to not
load up and try that and post back the result.

Are you using any Third Party Security program in that Account that may have
a similar feature(block Scripting) activated?  If I disable Active Scripting
in IE7 here and navigate to the site, the sceen is totally black with no
errors on the status bar.  Is this what you are seeing when you navigate to
that site in your limited account?  If so then something is blocking
scripting at that site.

Donald Anadell

> Yes, active scripting is enabled in IE7 when I check it under the limited
> user account.
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>> to
>> do, that is unless you have already tried that :-).
DaveM. - 30 Dec 2006 20:46 GMT
Disabling Windows Defender made no difference.  Even after a full reboot.  

This page at http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqvvn_lorenzo does play a flash video while I'm logged into the limited user account, but the previous site I posted does not.  There must be a difference in how the sites call up the flash file that plays.  One way works and the other doesn't in my setup.  I'll either get used to it I suppose or just end up saying the heck with IE7 and change over to Firefox as my default browser.  I'm getting tired of f'in around with it.  

I have Windows Defender running, but that runs in the admin account also.
Other than that I just scan periodically with Adaware, Spybot S&D, CCleaner,
etc, but nothing that stays resident.  I'll change Windows defender to not
load up and try that and post back the result.

Are you using any Third Party Security program in that Account that may have
a similar feature(block Scripting) activated?  If I disable Active Scripting
in IE7 here and navigate to the site, the sceen is totally black with no
errors on the status bar.  Is this what you are seeing when you navigate to
that site in your limited account?  If so then something is blocking
scripting at that site.

Donald Anadell

"DaveM." <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:ekgnb9CLHHA.2236@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Yes, active scripting is enabled in IE7 when I check it under the limited
> user account.
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>> to
>> do, that is unless you have already tried that :-).
Donald Anadell - 30 Dec 2006 15:41 GMT
Hi Dave,

I'm not that familiar with limited user accounts, I've never used a limited
user account on any of my machines.

You might try using the Registry Editor from the Admin account to change the
Permissions on that Key you created to give Full control of it to the
Limited account.  This is only a guess on my part since I have little
knowledge of User accounts other than the Admin account, but it might
resolve the issue?

Donald Anadell

> One thing I've noticed since we fixed the ability to play an SWF file
> directly in IE7 the other day is that there are still sites that want to
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> Donald Anadell
DaveM. - 30 Dec 2006 16:49 GMT
It doesn't appear to have made any difference to give the users accounts
full access permissions.

Hi Dave,

I'm not that familiar with limited user accounts, I've never used a limited
user account on any of my machines.

You might try using the Registry Editor from the Admin account to change the
Permissions on that Key you created to give Full control of it to the
Limited account.  This is only a guess on my part since I have little
knowledge of User accounts other than the Admin account, but it might
resolve the issue?

Donald Anadell

> One thing I've noticed since we fixed the ability to play an SWF file
> directly in IE7 the other day is that there are still sites that want to
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> Donald Anadell
Robert Aldwinckle - 27 Dec 2006 07:14 GMT
...

> If what you say is correct, then why does Flash 'work' in Firefox and not
> with IE7.

AFAIK   Firefox, like Netscape, doesn't support  ActiveX,
just as  IE  doesn't support  Netscape plugins.
So, the two browsers each get two entirely separate extensions
to support the  Flash  feature.   Bugs or quirks in one may not
be present in the other.

> It would seem to me that if 'Flash' works as intended in Firefox
> then it is reasonable to assume it is installed correctly and the problem
> relates to the dispute between Eolas and Microsoft leading to the 'update'
> by Microsoft to address the issue.

As others have explained the Eolas matter is a peripheral issue
which causes at most a usability wart that can be circumvented entirely
by scripting by the web site.

> Perhaps I'm wrong and if so maybe you can tell me how to get Flash to work in IE7,
> it does work in Firefox and did work until I applied the Microsoft update.

You're wrong.  Believe it.   Wrong equivalence and wrong consequence.  ; )

Have you tried toggling the option

   Allow active content to run on files in My Computer*

(in Options, Advanced tab, Security section)

Note that the asterisk means that a restart of  IExplore.exe  is required
before any testing of the new setting will be valid.

FWIW  no  .swf  files work either locally or via direct URL for me
unless that option is  _unchecked_.    This seems backwards
to me according to the label of the option but seems to make
a bit more sense under the covers in relation to a ControlFeature
called  LocalMachine_LockDown.

> If you go to the Adobe Flash forum you will note that I am not alone in
> this.

Same difference?   ActiveX  versus  Netscape plug-in.

HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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Mat68 - 15 Jun 2007 17:06 GMT
I get remarks ------- the instruction at "0x660accc" referenced memory at
"0x660accc". The memory could not be "read" everytime it closes.  This came
about when I intsalled Adobe flash

Any help

> I have three computers at home that I upgraded to IE7.
>
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> Is this a known issue that is being addressed for IE7 or is it an Adobe
> problem?
 
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