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Windows Forum / Internet Explorer / General Topics / June 2007scripting of bgsound tag doesn't work on IE7 of Vista
I use site http://www.thefreedictionary.com frequently. One feature of the site is being able to pronounce a word implicitly by clicking an icon. No explict prompt of downloading .wav file and launching a player is needed. The way the pronounciation is implemented is through javascripting of the bgsound html element. This works for all versions of IE (including IE7) but after I installed a fresh Vista last month it stopped working. But then somehow it worked for a while and a couple days ago it stop working again. I think there might be some windows updates tweaked some security settings. But I have no clue. Does anyone experienc same problem and found the cause? Hi fw, Check your security settings for the site and that active scripting has been enabled and/or that you have enabled ActiveX (there are a number of ways to launch wav files from a web page) Another possible cause is that you upgrade has blown away the patch from microsoft that removes the 'Click to Activate this ActiveX Control' prompt from web sites. Also check the Multimedia settings on the Advanced tab of Internet Options as a new install or upgrade of IE7 will reset the browser settings to the MS Defaults. Regards. >I use site http://www.thefreedictionary.com frequently. One feature of the > site is being able to pronounce a word implicitly by clicking an icon. No [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > some windows updates tweaked some security settings. But I have no clue. > Does anyone experienc same problem and found the cause? Rob, The feature doesn't use activeX but just in case I have tried permutations on activeX as well. I also tried, in vain, to add the site to trusted site and have protected mode off. I believe the problem is easily duplicated on other Vista PCs. > Hi fw, > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > some windows updates tweaked some security settings. But I have no clue. > > Does anyone experienc same problem and found the cause? > Rob, > The feature doesn't use activeX but just in case I have tried permutations > on activeX as well. The sound feature that pronounces the "word of the day" at that site is set up to work in two different ways. 1. When you visit the site the javascript "dict2.js" first tries to detect if you have Adobe Flash installed on your machine. If you do have Flash installed(and the Flash Player ActiveX control is enabled in the Browser), that little speaker icon you see will be a Flash file called "play.swf". And when you click on that little speaker icon Flash file it calls an .mp3 sound file to be played in the Browser that pronounces the word. For instance the the word today is "indefatigable", so it calls the mp3 file named "10097100.mp3" that pronounces the word "infatigable". 2. If dict2.js finds that you do not have Adobe Flash installed(or that you do not have the Flash ActiveX controll enabled in the Browser), the little speaker icon with be a .gif image file(pron.gif) instead of a Flash file(play.swf). And when you click on the little speaker icon it will call a .wav file to pronounce the word of the day "indefatigable", in this case the .wav file is called "10097100.wav" The site works fine here in IE7 on both Windows SP2 and Vista both ways. So if the little speaker icon is a .gif image when you are visiting the site-this is easy to tell by simply rightclicking on the speaker icon, if it's the Flash file "play.swf" you will see information about the Adobe Flash Player in the rightclick context menu, if it's the .gif image file you will have the ability to "Save Picture As" when you right click on it-you would need to make sure you have "Play sounds in webpages" enabled in the Browser in order to hear the .wav file. In either case you should be able to hear the sound when visiting the site using IE7, whether its on Windows XP SP2 or Vista. If you have the Adobe Flash Player installed and enabled you should get a .mp3 sound file playing in the Browser. If you don't have the Adobe Flash Player installed(or you have it disabled) then you should get a .wav sound file playing in the Browser. Of course if you have Active Scripting disabled, you won't get a speaker icon at all, neither the .swf file speaker icon nor the .gif file icon. Bottom line is that if you have Active Scripting enabled and you have "Play Sounds in webpages" enabled you should at least hear the .wav file at that site. If you have the Flash Player Player installed and enabled in the Browser, then you won't get a .wav file but rather you will get a .mp3 file instead. Good luck, Donald Anadell I also tried, in vain, to add the site to trusted site > and have protected mode off. > I believe the problem is easily duplicated on other Vista PCs. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> > clue. >> > Does anyone experienc same problem and found the cause? Thanks Donald for the indepth analysis. I only launched my script debugger after clicking the pronounce image so I was not aware of dict2.js. I don't have Adobe Flash Player. I have active scripting and "Play sounds in webpages" enabled, which are out-of-the-box settings for internet zone. Still it doesn't work. I noticed Vista sound mixer doesn't include IE. But if I open other web sites with sound upon load, I can hear sound and IE is in the mixer. Of course, other apps such as WMP and RealPlayer also play sounds OK. Thanks > > Rob, > > The feature doesn't use activeX but just in case I have tried permutations [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] > >> > clue. > >> > Does anyone experienc same problem and found the cause? One more important update: If I open the root site http://www.thefreedictionary.com and click the pronounce icon of "word of the day", it works. But if I type indefatigable in search box and in the search result page http://www.thefreedictionary.com/indefatigable, the pronounce icon doesn't work. > > Rob, > > The feature doesn't use activeX but just in case I have tried permutations [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] > >> > clue. > >> > Does anyone experienc same problem and found the cause? OK. I get everything sorted out. The root cause are two problems lie in the site rather than IE/Vista. My earlier Windows have Adobe Flash8d.ocx installed, but Vista doesn't. Without Flash player, page such as http://www.thefreedictionary.com/indefatigable scripted document.all.bgsound incorrectly because this element is a collection rather than single element, whereas in root site http://www.thefreedictionary.com it is a single element. After I installed latest version of Flash player Flash9.ocx in Vista, it still doesn't work. Maybe dict2.js demands earlier version. I don't bother to know. I just uninstalled v9 and installed archived version Flash8d.ocx and it finally worked in Vista! Thanks everyone. > > Rob, > > The feature doesn't use activeX but just in case I have tried permutations [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] > >> > clue. > >> > Does anyone experienc same problem and found the cause? |
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