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IE7 Security Zone Settings in registry get reset

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dekac99 - 29 Jun 2007 09:28 GMT
OS: Vista Enterprise/Business
The IE7 Zone Security Settings are set by editing registry values in
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Zones\, and
Security_HKLM_only is set to 1. When a user, who has local admin rights, logs
on for the first time the HKLM\..\Zones\ values for the security zone 2
(Trusted Site) and 3 (Internet) get reset to values defined under
HKLM\...\TemplatePolicies. This changes only happen for the first logon and
when Security_HKLM_only=1. Is there any way to stop this changes from
happening?
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM - 29 Jun 2007 10:35 GMT
> OS: Vista Enterprise/Business
> The IE7 Zone Security Settings are set by editing registry values in
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> when Security_HKLM_only=1. Is there any way to stop this changes from
> happening?

It might be a security program blocking the Registry change it needs to
make.  A few, but not all, of the programs now doing this are:
Ad-aware's Ad-Watch
IBM Access Connections
McAfee VirusScan and/or Antispyware
Norton AV
Spyware Blaster
Spybot> Tools> IE Tweaks
Spybot- Teatimer
Spysweeper
Spyware Doctor
Windows Defender
Zone Alarm (free) 6.5 Reported to be fixed in later versions.

In the case of Zone Alarm 6.5 or Norton 2007 it actually has to be
uninstalled.  Make sure the Windows Firewall is turned on until you
reinstall Zone Alarm.

Boot into Safe Mode with Networking and try the change.

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dekac99 - 29 Jun 2007 12:42 GMT
The issue is that the settings get changed, not that they cannot be changed.
We do not want the original custom HKLM registry settings on a client PC to
change when an admin logon to the Client PC for the first time. Any ideas?
Thanks.

> > OS: Vista Enterprise/Business
> > The IE7 Zone Security Settings are set by editing registry values in
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>
> Boot into Safe Mode with Networking and try the change.
Peter Foldes - 29 Jun 2007 15:22 GMT
I suggest that you re-read the answer that Frank has posted for your issue.

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> The issue is that the settings get changed, not that they cannot be changed.
> We do not want the original custom HKLM registry settings on a client PC to
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>>
>> Boot into Safe Mode with Networking and try the change.
dekac99 - 29 Jun 2007 15:50 GMT
The issue is somehow related to the CurrentLevel value for the zone that get
changed from to the non zero value. I have know idea why this value get
changed only when an admin user who does not have a local profile logs on for
the first time.

Thanks for all your help.

> I suggest that you re-read the answer that Frank has posted for your issue.
>
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> >>
> >> Boot into Safe Mode with Networking and try the change.
Robert Aldwinckle - 30 Jun 2007 13:56 GMT
> The issue is somehow related to the CurrentLevel value for the zone that get
> changed from to the non zero value. I have know idea why this value get
> changed only when an admin user who does not have a local profile logs on for
> the first time.

If none of the other suggestions are helping I would try running tracing
both cases (e.g. using ProcMon)  and comparing the two.
E.g. perhaps that way you can detect if there is a difference in permissions
that you could eliminate.   Did you try using one of the spyware
checkers which were mentioned?  Perhaps their changes would be a simple
way of achieving such changes?   (I think that that is what both Frank and
Peter may be implying.)

Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
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> Thanks for all your help.
>
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>> >>
>> >> Boot into Safe Mode with Networking and try the change.
PA Bear - 29 Jun 2007 23:00 GMT
Are /any/ of the applications Frank listed installed?
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> The issue is that the settings get changed, not that they cannot be
> changed.
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>> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
>> Do not send mail.
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM - 30 Jun 2007 00:42 GMT
If I understand, you change the settings and they work until you reboot,
when they revert to what they were.  Something is preventing your change
from actually writing to the Registry.

Did you try it in Safe Mode?

> The issue is that the settings get changed, not that they cannot be
> changed.
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>>
>> Boot into Safe Mode with Networking and try the change.
dekac99 - 02 Jul 2007 07:40 GMT
No Frank, you got it wrong. The settings are ok and they are the same for all
users (that's why we are using HKLM and security_hkml_only) until a new user
with local admin rights logon for the first tame and settings in HKLM for
zones 2 and 3 get reset to defaulse (TemplatePolicies values).

> If I understand, you change the settings and they work until you reboot,
> when they revert to what they were.  Something is preventing your change
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> >>
> >> Boot into Safe Mode with Networking and try the change.
PA Bear - 02 Jul 2007 23:31 GMT
Do you realize this is the first time you've mentioned TemplatePolicies
(GPO) since you first posted on 29 Jun-07?
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> No Frank, you got it wrong. The settings are ok and they are the same for
> all users (that's why we are using HKLM and security_hkml_only) until a
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>>>>
>>>> Boot into Safe Mode with Networking and try the change.
dekac99 - 02 Jul 2007 07:42 GMT
No Frank, you got it wrong. The settings are ok and they are the same for all
users (that's why we are using HKLM and security_hkml_only) until a new user
with local admin rights logon for the first tame and settings in HKLM for
zones 2 and 3 get reset to defaults (from TemplatePolicies values). It seems
that when a local profile get creates, an internet profile get created too
and since we are using Security_HKLM_ONly ant the user have admin rights the
settings for IE get reset in HKLM insted in HKU. We do not want the IE
settings in HKLM to get change ever.

> If I understand, you change the settings and they work until you reboot,
> when they revert to what they were.  Something is preventing your change
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> >>
> >> Boot into Safe Mode with Networking and try the change.
dekac99 - 29 Jun 2007 13:00 GMT
IE7 installed on the workstation was customised with IEAK7.

> > OS: Vista Enterprise/Business
> > The IE7 Zone Security Settings are set by editing registry values in
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> Boot into Safe Mode with Networking and try the change.
John - 29 Jun 2007 20:38 GMT
I have had conflicts in settings made to IE7 directly and what group
policies set. You might try running Group Policy Object editor (gpedit.msc)
and going to User Config, Admin Templates, Windows Components, Internet
explorer.

> OS: Vista Enterprise/Business
> The IE7 Zone Security Settings are set by editing registry values in
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> when Security_HKLM_only=1. Is there any way to stop this changes from
> happening?
dekac99 - 02 Jul 2007 08:44 GMT
The group policy settings look ok.

> I have had conflicts in settings made to IE7 directly and what group
> policies set. You might try running Group Policy Object editor (gpedit.msc)
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> > when Security_HKLM_only=1. Is there any way to stop this changes from
> > happening?
 
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