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IE7 closes down/crashes (stack overflow?)

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Giulio - 09 Jun 2008 22:53 GMT
I've IE7 on XP sp2.
It crashes loading yahoo webpage.
It does not crash without add-on.
It seems a stack overflow (maybe in winspool.drv or mshtmled.dll):
any idea or suggestion?
Tks
Don Varnau - 09 Jun 2008 23:10 GMT
Hi,
From IE> Tools> manage add-ons, disable one or two add-ons at a time until
the problem goes away. That should tell you which is the incompatible
add-on.

Reinstalling the troublesome add-on may help or there may be an updated
version which won't cause the problem.

Hope this helps,
Don
[MS MVP- IE]

> I've IE7 on XP sp2.
> It crashes loading yahoo webpage.
> It does not crash without add-on.
> It seems a stack overflow (maybe in winspool.drv or mshtmled.dll):
> any idea or suggestion?
> Tks
Giulio - 10 Jun 2008 00:02 GMT
> Hi,
> From IE> Tools> manage add-ons, disable one or two add-ons at a time until
> the problem goes away. That should tell you which is the incompatible
> add-on.

Done: all add-ons are disabled from ie tools and IE restarted, but it is
still crashing on yahoo.it (maybe loading an image)
On the other hand, starting IE without addons it does not crash.... =:-)

> Reinstalling the troublesome add-on may help or there may be an updated
> version which won't cause the problem.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> > any idea or suggestion?
> > Tks
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 09 Jun 2008 23:39 GMT
Is this your thread, too, Giulio? =>
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general/browse_
frm/thread/537609cc7ab2adaf


Is the troublemaking Add-on a McAfee add-on?

===============

Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx

Does the problem persist if you Reset IE7 Advanced settings (RIES) [and then
re-enable/installing the Add-ons, one by one]?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using!
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> I've IE7 on XP sp2.
> It crashes loading yahoo webpage.
> It does not crash without add-on.
> It seems a stack overflow (maybe in winspool.drv or mshtmled.dll):
> any idea or suggestion?
> Tks
Giulio - 10 Jun 2008 00:54 GMT
> Is this your thread, too, Giulio? =>
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general/browse_
frm/thread/537609cc7ab2adaf

[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Does the problem persist if you Reset IE7 Advanced settings (RIES) [and then
> re-enable/installing the Add-ons, one by one]?
The problem does not persist after reset...
I tried to avoid resetting, anyway it is ok, done.
What was the problem? I couldn't understand it.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using!
> > I've IE7 on XP sp2.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > any idea or suggestion?
> > Tks
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 10 Jun 2008 01:12 GMT
Judging from your reply to Don, it sounds like Yahoo (Companion) Toolbar was
the troublemaker, Giulio.  Assuming no other toolbars are installed (e.g.,
Google; Windows Live; Skype), you might try installing the current (newest)
version of Yahoo Toolbar.

> The problem does not persist after reset...
> I tried to avoid resetting, anyway it is ok, done.
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>>> any idea or suggestion?
>>> Tks
Giulio - 11 Jun 2008 10:01 GMT
I have not any toolbar.
The problem persists after reloading the user profile at logon.
I opened another topic because I wanted to point out this new situation...
it is ok to follow up here as long as we can find a solution
Tks

> Judging from your reply to Don, it sounds like Yahoo (Companion) Toolbar was
> the troublemaker, Giulio.  Assuming no other toolbars are installed (e.g.,
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> >>> any idea or suggestion?
> >>> Tks
Giulio - 13 Jun 2008 15:42 GMT
It seems no one can help me about this issue with IE7, just to recap:
IE7 is crashing on yahoo.it, if I reset it working on my network profile it
keeps crashing on my local user profile and viceversa... The cause why IE7 is
closing down is completely unclear at the moment... the program is not stable
on XPsp2.
I would appreciate a concrete help.
I had to install Firefox in the meantime and I must recognise that it is
working very well on the other hand.

> I have not any toolbar.
> The problem persists after reloading the user profile at logon.
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> > >>> any idea or suggestion?
> > >>> Tks
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 13 Jun 2008 18:41 GMT
Free phone support for Internet Explorer 7/WinXP (installation issues only)
is available through 30 Jun-08, based on your locale. Customers must be
running WinXP in a non-domain environment.

In North America, call 1-866-234-6020

Hours of operation:
Monday-Friday 5 am - 9 pm Pacific Standard Time
Saturday-Sunday 6 am - 3 pm Pacific Standard Time

For other IE7 issues, start here: http://support.microsoft.com/gp/wusupport

International customers can receive support from their local Microsoft
subsidiaries. For more information about how to contact Microsoft for
support issues, visit the International Support Web site:
https://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx

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> It seems no one can help me about this issue with IE7, just to recap:
> IE7 is crashing on yahoo.it, if I reset it working on my network profile
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
>>>>>> any idea or suggestion?
>>>>>> Tks
Giulio - 13 Jun 2008 19:24 GMT
I think that this is my problem:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935544/en-us

but I can't download the hotfix because I get
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/noscript even if I activeted the script and
put the site as trusted. What am I doing wrong?

Moreover I can't apply the workaround because the registry
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet
Settings\UseCoInstall" for me is REG_SZ ("ON") and not DWORD! How can I set
it to 0?
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 13 Jun 2008 19:47 GMT
Thread history:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general/browse_
frm/thread/9feca2c39b623aac


http://support.microsoft.com/gp/noscript = There's a Group Policy in place
that disallows the use of scripts.

Is this your machine or one that belongs to your employer?
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> I think that this is my problem:
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> set
> it to 0?
Giulio - 13 Jun 2008 20:26 GMT
> Thread history:
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general/browse_
frm/thread/9feca2c39b623aac

>
> http://support.microsoft.com/gp/noscript = There's a Group Policy in place
> that disallows the use of scripts.
Interesting: which one? I think it is not configured.

> Is this your machine or one that belongs to your employer?
It is not mine but I'm the administrator.
> > I think that this is my problem:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> > set
> > it to 0?
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 13 Jun 2008 20:42 GMT
Speak with your IT department.

>> Thread history:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general/browse_
frm/thread/9feca2c39b623aac

[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>>> set
>>> it to 0?
Giulio - 13 Jun 2008 21:27 GMT
We don't have support for IE7 because we have different standards.
Anyway this is not relevant, at the moment I'm writing from one of my
personal home pc where I have exactly the same problem: IE7, XP and I don't  
know how to download the hotfix from
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935544/en-us... it should be a trivial
question....

> Speak with your IT department.
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> >>> set
> >>> it to 0?
Giulio - 13 Jun 2008 22:09 GMT
In the meantime I found the solution (or the workaround ... ;-) ) for this
stack overflow of urlmon.dll with IE7 on XP:
I simply deleted the UseCoInstall registry and now it doesn't crash any
more...
HTH
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 14 Jun 2008 00:04 GMT
You must request the Hotfix (for WinXP) from MS.
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> We don't have support for IE7 because we have different standards.
> Anyway this is not relevant, at the moment I'm writing from one of my
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>>>>> set
>>>>> it to 0?
Giulio - 14 Jun 2008 22:09 GMT
> You must request the Hotfix (for WinXP) from MS.

from the KB:
"If the hotfix is available for download, there is a "Hotfix download
available" section at the top of this Knowledge Base article. If this section
does not appear, contact Microsoft Customer Service and Support to obtain the
hotfix. "
The "Hotfix download available" section does appear: why should I contact
MS? There is a problem in the url
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935544/en-us with the script for the
download...  expected ';' line 169 char 139 ... and the link is redirected to
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/noscript (nothing to do with group
policies...)
After changing to 'United States' ;-) I was able to get
http://support.microsoft.com/hotfix/KBHotfix.aspx?kbnum=935544&kbln=en-us and
"Select Product Language Platform Release File name Version Build File size
(bytes) (bytes) Modified date
Windows Server 2003 English x86 sp3 Fix200564 win2003 3790 1097925
4/22/2007 2:15:51 PM
Windows XP English x86 sp3 Fix200565 WxP 2600 1093144 4/22/2007 6:25:25 AM
Windows Vista All (Global) x86 sp1 Fix199749 Vista 6000 776618 4/13/2007
11:55:35 PM"
Should I request Fix200565 for XP sp3 even if I have sp2?

___

Anyway  I solved my original issue (IE7 crashing on yahoo due to stack
overflow of urlmon.dll): I deleted the entry
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet
Settings\UseCoInstall":
it works fine!!!
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 14 Jun 2008 22:32 GMT
I don't know what's happening on your end (but I suspect a GPO may be
involved despite your claim to the contrary).

You MUST request the hotfix and provide your name and email address.  If MS
approves you for the hotfix, you will be sent downloading instructions via
email response.

[NB: A Hotfix is not the same as an update.  See
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/824684]

1. Open the link
http://support.microsoft.com/hotfix/KBHotfix.aspx?kbnum=935544&kbln=en-us

2. Agree to the EULA & press the NEXT button.

3. Select the WinXP hotfix.

4. Fill in your name and email address.

5. Fill in characters you see in the appropriate box.

6. Click on REQUEST HOTFIX button to submit your request.

If and when MS approves your request, you will receive an email telling you
how to obtain the hotfix (i.e., URLMON.DLL v7.0.6000.20579).

...or be satisfied with the workaround you already have in place.
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>> You must request the Hotfix (for WinXP) from MS.
>> --
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Settings\UseCoInstall":
> it works fine!!!
Giulio - 14 Jun 2008 23:14 GMT
> I don't know what's happening on your end (but I suspect a GPO may be
> involved despite your claim to the contrary).
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> 6. Click on REQUEST HOTFIX button to submit your request.

Done, hotfix already installed (registry entry restored).
Thanks for your support!
CU
> If and when MS approves your request, you will receive an email telling you
> how to obtain the hotfix (i.e., URLMON.DLL v7.0.6000.20579).
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> > Settings\UseCoInstall":
> > it works fine!!!
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 15 Jun 2008 06:47 GMT
YW, Giulio.

>> I don't know what's happening on your end (but I suspect a GPO may be
>> involved despite your claim to the contrary).
[quoted text clipped - 69 lines]
>>> Settings\UseCoInstall":
>>> it works fine!!!
 
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