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tienetdier - 11 Jun 2008 13:45 GMT
when iI restart my computer from stand by IE7 crashes and I am unable to go
on the internet
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 11 Jun 2008 19:26 GMT
When was SP3 installed?  When was IE7 installed?  Did the behavior only
start after installing SP3?
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> when iI restart my computer from stand by IE7 crashes and I am unable to
> go
> on the internet
tienetdier - 12 Jun 2008 05:48 GMT
Both were installed at the same time a couple of weeks ago. The strange thing
is that IE does not crash when I shut down my PC completely and restart.

> When was SP3 installed?  When was IE7 installed?  Did the behavior only
> start after installing SP3?
> > when iI restart my computer from stand by IE7 crashes and I am unable to
> > go
> > on the internet
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 12 Jun 2008 16:34 GMT
Repost:
>> Did the behavior only start after installing SP3?

Let me rephrase my other question: In what order were SP3 and IE7 installed?
One had to have been installed before the other.
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> Both were installed at the same time a couple of weeks ago. The strange
> thing is that IE does not crash when I shut down my PC completely and
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>>> go
>>> on the internet
tienetdier - 13 Jun 2008 06:43 GMT
SP3 was installed after IE7

> Repost:
> >> Did the behavior only start after installing SP3?
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> >>> go
> >>> on the internet
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 13 Jun 2008 18:48 GMT
Thank you.  I still need you to answer one of my original questions:

>>> Did the behavior only start after installing SP3?

> SP3 was installed after IE7
>
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>>>>> on the internet
tienetdier - 13 Jun 2008 20:28 GMT
that I do not know. It is a new PC and arrived with everything installed. Do
you think it is due to SP3

> Thank you.  I still need you to answer one of my original questions:
>
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> >>>>> go
> >>>>> on the internet
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 13 Jun 2008 20:44 GMT
Start | Run | (type or copy/paste) winver | [OK]

Does it say "Service Pack 2" or "Service Pack 3"?
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> that I do not know. It is a new PC and arrived with everything installed.
> Do
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tienetdier - 13 Jun 2008 22:45 GMT
It is SP3

> Start | Run | (type or copy/paste) winver | [OK]
>
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> >>>>>>> unable
> >>>>>>> to go on the internet
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 14 Jun 2008 00:03 GMT
OK, let's back up a bit.

=> You said that IE7 was installed and then SP3 was installed.  If it's "a
new PC and arrived with everything installed," how do you know this
installation order?

=> Open Add/Remove Programs | Make sure the "Show Updates" box is checked:
Please tell me if "Windows XP Service Pack 3" and/or "Windows Internet
Explorer 7" is listed here?

=========================

The above notwithstanding:

=> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed?  What
anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?  What third-party firewall
(if any)?

=> Does this behavior persist if you start IE7 in No Add-ons mode?  To start
IE7 in No Add-ons mode:

1. Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without Add-ons;
or

2. Start > (All) Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Internet Explorer
(No add-ons).

Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx

=> Does the problem persist if you Reset IE7 Advanced settings (RIES)?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using!
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> It is SP3
>
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tienetdier - 14 Jun 2008 06:44 GMT
The guy that has put the PC together and installed the software is living
next doorI called the supplier

> OK, let's back up a bit.
>
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> >>>>>>>>> to go on the internet
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 14 Jun 2008 17:03 GMT
You can still answer my other questions/look at my other suggestions.

> The guy that has put the PC together and installed the software is living
> next doorI called the supplier
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tienetdier - 16 Jun 2008 12:19 GMT
Following done :
Yes SP3 and IE7 are on the list of add/remove programs
I have tried the proposal without add on's : did not work
I have tried RIES : did not work
The only protection program additional to the standard package I have is Avast

FYI : I do not have the problem when I am using FireFox
I have only the problem when I come from stand by. With a normal start up
everything works

BTW thanks already for the help

> OK, let's back up a bit.
>
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> >>>>>>>>> to go on the internet
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 17 Jun 2008 01:11 GMT
> I have only the problem when I come from stand by. With a normal start up
> everything works

That's very interesting.  Thanks.

A few more questions before we take more drastic steps:

1. Was Avast Anti-Virus installed on the machine when you bought it?

2. Has a Norton or McAfee application EVER been installed on the machine
(e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled on the machine when you
bought it)?

3. Did you purchase the machine directly from the manufacturer (e.g., Dell;
HP) or from a local store or shop?  If from a local store or shop, did they
build the machine there?  Is the machine still under Warranty or Service
Contract?
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~PA Bear

> Following done :
> Yes SP3 and IE7 are on the list of add/remove programs
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tienetdier - 17 Jun 2008 10:10 GMT
1. Avast was not installed. I have installed it
2. No Norton or McAFEE applications are ever installed
3. The machine was build and is still under Warranty. The supplier could not
help me with this problem

> > I have only the problem when I come from stand by. With a normal start up
> > everything works
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> >>>>>>>>>>> unable
> >>>>>>>>>>> to go on the internet
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 17 Jun 2008 21:31 GMT
> 1. Avast was not installed. I have installed it

How long did you use the machine online (connected to the internet) before
you (1) installed Avast and (2) got the machine fully patched at Windows
Update?
============================
While I'd like you to answer the above question, you can proceed as follows:

1. Disable Avast Anti-Virus.

   => Be CAREFUL! Don't do anything else online (e.g., browsing; email;
chatting) while Avast is disabled!!

2. Uninstall 'Windows XP Service Pack 3' via Add/Remove Programs

   How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 3 from your computer
   http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950249

3. Reboot *twice* after uninstalling WinXP SP3.

4. If IE7 still crashes *and* starting IE7 in No Add-ons Mode or Resetting
IE7 doesn't stop the crashing:

• Disable Avast again;

• Uninstall "Windows Internet Explorer 7" via Add/Remove Programs, then
reboot *twice*.

   Uninstalling IE7
   http://www.ie-vista.com/kbase2.html

   => Ignore any references to Vista on the above website.

   => Ignore any "Such-and-such might not work properly if you uninstall
IE7" warnings.

5. Uninstalling IE7 will return the machine to IE6.  Let me know if
everything's OK now or if IE6 crashes, too.

Please do NOT reinstall IE7 or WinXP SP3 yet.
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~PA Bear

> 1. Avast was not installed. I have installed it
> 2. No Norton or McAFEE applications are ever installed
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Robert Aldwinckle - 21 Jun 2008 20:02 GMT
> when iI restart my computer from stand by IE7 crashes
> and I am unable to go on the internet

If this is still a problem I think it would be a good idea to
get a more precise symptom description than just the word "crashes".

E.g., if you mean "hangs"  I think that is not a problem with IE but with
the OS Networking.

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