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Windows Forum / Internet Explorer / General Topics / June 2008No longer have animation
IE7, Vista Ultimate x64 I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather sites on this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with the IE7 with Vista x86. This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can think of and still no solution. Any suggestions of where I might check into next would be appreciated. (FYI...I do not like, nor will use, FireFox, so don't bother with that suggestion.) Jan :) try start control panel add/remove progs ie7 click on 'repair' > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64 > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Jan :) Hi, thank you. :-) It is not listed in the list there, and I don't see it listed there in any of the other Vista machines which I did not install the IE8 beta and are running the animation fine. Jan:) > try start control panel add/remove progs ie7 click on 'repair' > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> Jan :) If you tell us which pages fail, we can look at what specifically causes this error and maybe help you... says a happy Firefox user (sorry, couldn't help it ;) ) > If you tell us which pages fail, we can look at what specifically causes > this > error and maybe help you... This is one of the pages: http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/map/interactive/20186?from=36h r_svrWarn_driving&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar and one other: http://www.weather.com/weather/map/USVA0808?showanimation=yes&mapregion=us_ric_c loseradar_plus_usen When I click on the Show Map In Motion tab it will just hand up and never render. says a happy Firefox user (sorry, couldn't help > it ;) ) Troll!!..... :o))) Jan :) H > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64 > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Jan :) Tools | Internet Options | Advanced Scroll down to Multimedia and make sure "Play animations in webpages" is checked.  SignatureFrank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM Do not reply with email >> IE7, Vista Ultimate x64 >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Scroll down to Multimedia and make sure "Play animations in webpages" is > checked. Hi Frank, that one is already checked. Jan :) (cross-post added to 64bit General) > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64 > > I am no longer able to get any animation when using the Weather sites on > this machine. Animation works fine on my other two machines with the IE7 > with Vista x86. What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; ) > This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and > returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can think of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jan :) Robert, My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8. Download and install Flash Player 10 from here http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_acti vex_051508.exe Post back your results. IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again. Carlos > (cross-post added to 64bit General) > > IE7, Vista Ultimate x64 [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > > Jan :) > Robert, > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Post back your results. > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again. Nope, that has been installed. Jan :) > Carlos > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> > >> > Jan :) Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me not being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting (coldboot!) and re-install? Tony. . . > > Robert, > > My guess is that Flash Player got uninstalled together with IE8. > > > > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_acti vex_051508.exe > > Post back your results. > > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >> > > >> > Jan :) Can he can uninstall IE7? It is the base IE in Vista. > Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me not > being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >> >> > >> >> > Jan :) Well, maybe not in reality, but in XP you can remove IE as one of the 'Windows Components' - which will remove associations and (I think?) the *.EXE while leaving the *.DLL's which other system components rely on. Anyhow, re-activating it, should give you some certainty that everything is working right across the system. You are right though, I have no idea if this functionality still exist in Vista? It has been there for ages - and I think it is part of the Court settlement over the IE integration in the system, so I believe the option 'should' be there. Perhaps the US Edition doesn't have it? Tony. . . > Can he can uninstall IE7? It is the base IE in Vista. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >> > > >> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_acti vex_051508.exe > >> > Post back your results. > >> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >> >> > > >> >> > Jan :) Hi, Tony. > Perhaps the US Edition doesn't have it? Right. As Microsoft told the court, IE is so tightly integrated into WinXP that it can't be removed. I had no idea that it was removable in non-US editions. WinXP includes IE6, which can be upgraded since IE7 arrived. Vista started with IE7, which is still included on every DVD. Many of us are now involved in the public beta of IE8, which can run on both WinXP and Vista, replacing IE6 or IE7, as appropriate. For more, see microsoft.public.internetexplorer.beta. But IE6 can't be removed (by us mere mortals - in the US, at least) from WinXP or IE7 from Vista. And be nice to Jan. She's a Cherokee. RC SignatureR. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX rc@grandecom.net Microsoft Windows MVP (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1) > Well, maybe not in reality, but in XP you can remove IE as one of the > 'Windows Components' - which will remove associations and (I think?) the [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Jan :) > Hi, Tony. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > But IE6 can't be removed (by us mere mortals - in the US, at least) from > WinXP or IE7 from Vista. I was curious about that too, as since XP IE has been a core part of the software and not uninstallable. As far as know that is the case with Vista as well. So, if it is uninstallable from XP or Vista in other than US versions, I am unaware of that capability. I was testing the IE8 beta on that machine, but, uninstalled it last Thursday to do some testing the needs a clean IE7, not just the Emulation. That is when I noticed that none of the map animations are now working. > And be nice to Jan. She's a Cherokee. Yeppers....they even let me off the Resevation now and then too. At least to attend the MVP Summits. :o)) Jan :) > RC >> Well, maybe not in reality, but in XP you can remove IE as one of the [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Jan :) The N editions ("no IE") don't have it but it can be installed. That installation can later be uninstalled. However, only a few thousand N editions apparently sold. The European Courts' great triumph fizzled. I beleive that the K editions (Korea) worked about the same. I think other than that whatever IE ships with a version of Windows is core. >> Hi, Tony. >> [quoted text clipped - 98 lines] >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > Jan :) Ahhh, thanks for the clarification, Colin. Bill Sharpe used to keep us up to date on what the Korean version was doing, but, haven't talked with him of late. His WHS keeps him pretty busy these days :-)) Jan :) > The N editions ("no IE") don't have it but it can be installed. That > installation can later be uninstalled. However, only a few thousand N [quoted text clipped - 107 lines] >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > Jan :) Oh, you guys have me worried now - the machine is away for the moment, so cannot really check right now, but I am quite sure that I did away with it once in a fit of despair. Of course, it stays installed under the hood but it looks gone, and I suspect that when you activate it again it should check that everything it expects to find really is there. As a spinal reaction after finding MP Classic I give Media Player the same treatment whenever I install something new, so I cannot be mistaken, (I hope) but I'll give a hoot in a few days when it's back home again. Tony. . . > Hi, Tony. > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >> >> > > >> >> > Download and install Flash Player 10 from here: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_install_acti vex_051508.exe > >> >> > Post back your results. > >> >> > IE7 32-bit should be "animated" again. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Jan :) Perhaps you simply changed the default app? > Oh, you guys have me worried now - the machine is away for the moment, so > cannot really check right now, but I am quite sure that I did away with it [quoted text clipped - 105 lines] >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Jan :) Thanks Tony. Will be watching for the update info. Jan :) > Oh, you guys have me worried now - the machine is away for the moment, so > cannot really check right now, but I am quite sure that I did away with it [quoted text clipped - 105 lines] >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Jan :) 'She' wonders about that too. :-) Jan :) > Can he can uninstall IE7? It is the base IE in Vista. > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >>> >> > >>> >> > Jan :) > Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me not > being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting > (coldboot!) and re-install? I can try it. I am am not keen to do a Vista repair if there is any way I can avoid it. Jan :) > Tony. . . > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> >> > >> >> > Jan :) Try it in a virtual machine first. >> Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me not >> being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >>> >> > >>> >> > Jan :) Sorry...I don't follow the idea....try what in a virtual machine? Jan :) > Try it in a virtual machine first. > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Jan :) What you said above in response to Tony, "I can try it. I am am not keen to do a Vista repair if there is any way I can avoid it." So use VPC and install a copy of Vista in a virtual machine to experiment with. When you are done just delete the virtual machine. That's the way to try out stuff without it affecting your computer. > Sorry...I don't follow the idea....try what in a virtual machine? > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Jan :) > What you said above in response to Tony, "I can try it. I am am not keen > to do a Vista repair if there is any way I > can avoid it." So use VPC and install a copy of Vista in a virtual > machine to experiment with. When you are done just delete the virtual > machine. That's the way to try out stuff without it affecting your > computer. Ah...I meant by my reply to Tony was that I was willing to try suggestions. Doing a repair of vista is the last thing I want to do, and only if it is the last resort. However, I didn't really expect to find the IE listed in the components list, nor listed in the Programs and Features of VIsta, as it is not a separate install, ats least not in my version, but, I figured it wouldn't hurt to check it out anyway. But, I see what you mean now. I don't anticipate the need for using VPC. If the IE is borked the VPC won't help. Jan :) >> Sorry...I don't follow the idea....try what in a virtual machine? >> [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > Jan :) Ah, but if it is the IE in the vm that is borked and not the one on the computer itself then it is an easy bork to get rid of. >> What you said above in response to Tony, "I can try it. I am am not keen >> to do a Vista repair if there is any way I [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > Jan :) My questions is, how does that help the host Vista IE if it is borked? What if I install the IE8 on the Vista on the VPC, uninstall it and it works fine? I am not trying to blame the IE8 for the problem with the IE7 on the one machine, but, something got changed and I need to find out what it is so I can fix it. So, what would installing another copy of the Vista Ultimate x64 on a VPC prove? I am not trying to be argumentative, but, am curious about what your thinking is that might be a telling result. As it has been working fine on the x64 machine since Vista x64 was installed Vista went RTM, and it worked just fine after installing the IE8 beta since its release, so that should say something for the OS. The fact that the problem has only happened since I uninstalled the IE8 beta leads me to think that it is more in the way of something that got borked in IE when the IE8 was uninstalled. Which may not necessarily have anything to do with it being an x64 or x86 OS, or IE8. I really don't know, it is my first time around with this issue, and the immediate circumstances, so I am trying to do as much troubleshooting as I can on my end, given that I am not sure what is really the basic cause of the problem to home in on. I can do the whole 9 yards with the VPC, but, I am not sure that any evidence that it might provide would really be that useful in nailing down where the problem really lies, other than it does not happen there. I have to weigh the time involved against the possible benefits. Jan :) > Ah, but if it is the IE in the vm that is borked and not the one on the > computer itself then it is an easy bork to get rid of. [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > Jan :) First of all I don't put beta stuff on a primary computer natively (I do on the test box of course). If I want to look at beta stuff on my primary computer I do it in a vm running on that computer so that I never get into problems on the host. Once you have screwed up IE on your physical computer nothing you would do in a vm can help, of course. I'm just saying it is easy enough not to get into that kind of mess in the first place. > My questions is, how does that help the host Vista IE if it is borked? > What if I install the IE8 on the Vista on the VPC, uninstall it and it [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > Jan :) I never install any beta software on any primary or production machine either, I have a machine that is used only for beta testing and that is the one that is now having the IE problem. What I am trying to find out is what has caused the problem. According to the instructions, all one need do is uninstall the IE8 and IE7 is back to normal. As that is not the case here, I am trying to find out why and perhaps how to fix it if. Jan :) > First of all I don't put beta stuff on a primary computer natively (I do > on the test box of course). If I want to look at beta stuff on my primary [quoted text clipped - 114 lines] >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > Jan :) Nope...no luck. IE is not a component listed there. Thanks for the suggestions. :-) Jan :) > Well, I thought Carlos had a good point there - that failing, and me not > being a Vista Genius, have you tried uninstalling IE7 - rebooting [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >> >> > >> >> > Jan :) I think all you could remove from XP was IE6 SP1 but IE6 is core also. And then you have to remove the XP service packs before rolling back to the original IE. > Nope...no luck. IE is not a component listed there. > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >>> >> > >>> >> > Jan :) I didn't think it would be there, but, figured I cover all the bases. Jan :) >I think all you could remove from XP was IE6 SP1 but IE6 is core also. And >then you have to remove the XP service packs before rolling back to the [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Jan :) Yeah, the core software never shows up in Add/Remove, including whatever version of IE or WMP shipped with the copy of the OS you are using. >I didn't think it would be there, but, figured I cover all the bases. > [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Jan :) That is what I have been aware of for the previous Windows versions, and have never seen it in Vista. However, as we see, there are variations of the versions that are made available outside the US, and so I prefer to check first to confirm rather then to assume it is not available in my own version. With MS.....ya never know... :-) Jan :) > Yeah, the core software never shows up in Add/Remove, including whatever > version of IE or WMP shipped with the copy of the OS you are using. [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > Jan :) > (cross-post added to 64bit General) >> IE7, Vista Ultimate x64 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > What about the case: 32-bit IE7 when run under x64? ; ) The map on the page page won't even render when I switch to the IE x64 http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/map/interactive/20186?from=36h r_svrWarn_driving&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar Jan :) >> This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and >> returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can think [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >> Jan :) >> (cross-post added to 64bit General) >>> IE7, Vista Ultimate x64 [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Jan :) Ok. Well, now that we know some other Vista x64 users are reading this perhaps you will find out at least how common this symptom is? <eg> Otherwise one way to try to get more clues about what is different in the two cases is to use ProcMon. E.g. open the above link as the first thing for a new iexplore.exe process to do. That way you will see the modules being loaded. If something is not being loaded in the bad case it might even be sufficient just to use the Process filter (e.g. ignore RegMon and FileMon aspects as hopefully extraneous noise.) Then, if that's not enough add in the FileMon type tracing. Etc. Note that by default ProcMon captures all the detail anyway, so you can always save the trace and reanalyse it later with different filters. Note too that when you have two supposedly nearly identical saved traces you can analyse them side-by-side. Unfortunately though you have to use your eyeballs instead of a diff program to do that because of all the other details such as timestamps, etc. which would make a programmed difference report impractical. Hmm... it would help if ProcMon didn't BSOD as often as it does but... ; ) BTW it would probably help if you elaborated on your symptom. E.g. do you see the map? Does right-clicking on the map give the same menu? Etc. Also, have you checked on the Adobe forums for previous reports of the same symptom? Good luck Robert --- >>> This has just started since I uninstalled the IE8 beta and >>> returned to the IE7. I have tired to troubleshoot as much as I can think of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>> >>> Jan :) >>> (cross-post added to 64bit General) >>>> IE7, Vista Ultimate x64 [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > to do that because of all the other details such as timestamps, etc. which > would make a programmed difference report impractical. I will endeavor the above as gray matter comprehends. :-) While I have all these tools, analysis of such is not one of my more deft attributes. <grin> Expecially, when it doing visual comparisions, as vision in one eye is very limited so extended study is not always an easy thing. However, the programs do have merit and can offer a good information. > Hmm... it would help if ProcMon didn't BSOD as often as it does but... > ; ) Indeed! :-) > BTW it would probably help if you elaborated on your symptom. > E.g. do you see the map? Does right-clicking on the map give the > same menu? Etc. The map here does not appear at all: http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/map/interactive/20186?from=36h r_svrWarn_driving&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar The map here renders but when I click the Show Map In Motion it tries to change to the animation but just hangs indefinitely. http://www.weather.com/weather/map/USVA0808?clip=704®ion=null&collection=loca lwxforecast&presname=Warrenton,%20VA%20Forecast&name=usinterstateforecastday3_la rge_animated&day=1 > Also, have you checked on the Adobe forums for previous reports > of the same symptom? I've check out some that speak of animation problems, but, nothing is related to having previously installed the IE8, as least not from what I could tell, nor were the rendering and animation problems the same. When I try to install the Adobe Flash, it says that I have it installed, yet, I have unintsalled it earlier to reinstall and see if that might help. Also, the Adobe Active X download is blocked by IE and I have not yet been able to find how to unblock it. Putting it in my Trusted Zone does not work, nor does any of the Security allowances I have made. So, I can't reinstall it. Although, it says it is installed. So, something may be amiss too. This is all very strange, as it just started since I uninstalled the IE8. The Flash and all had been working fine until then. Jan :) > Good luck > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >>>> >>>> Jan :) Hi, Jan. I haven't followed the thread closely; maybe this has already been covered. But, since you gave those two links in your last post, I tried them both in IE8b1 with IE7 Emulation ON, first in the x86 version, then in x64. (I'm running Vista Ultimate x64, and I get the same results with IE7 Emulation OFF.) Here's what I see: At: http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/map/interactive/20186?from=36h r_svrWarn_driving&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar in IE8b1 x86, I see the buff-colored highway road map. When I click on the Play arrow below the map, maybe there is some animation, but apparently not much is happening in your weather today. In IE8b1 x64, I see the background for the map, but no map - just a big square patch of white. At the bottom there is a link to "Get Flash". Clicking that gets me the Adobe page with a "TechNote" titled "Flash Player support on 64-bit operating systems" and two statements that say: ISSUE: Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser. However, you can run Flash Player in a 32-bit browser running on a 64-bit operating system. REASON Adobe is working on Flash Player support for 64-bit platforms as part of our ongoing commitment to the cross-platform compatibility of Flash Player. We have not yet announced timing or release dates. At: http://www.weather.com/weather/map/USVA0808?clip=704®ion=null&collection=loca lwxforecast&presname=Warrenton,%20VA%20Forecast&name=usinterstateforecastday3_la rge_animated&day=1 In IE8b1 x86, I see a static green weather map. When I click on Show map in motion, it loads the animation and then shows it. At first there seems to be no action at all, but then I see a small rain shower dot in the south end of Delaware. It appears and disappears as the animation loops. In IE8b1 x64, I see the same thing. The animation works just as in x86! ;<) So the only non-working combo seems to be the first map, and only in IE8b1 x64. That is, in the 64-bit browser running on 64-bit Vista. And it fails only for the first URL, not the second. So the problem may be in that web page, not in Vista - or even in Flash. Matrix: 32-bit IE 64-bit IE First URL Works Doesn't Work Second URL Works Works It seems that Adobe doesn't even know that their Flash Player works with 64-bit browsers - sometimes. Now, since - as I said - I'm not deeply involved in the thread, I'll back off and let you and Robert, Colin, Tony, et al, continue. RC SignatureR. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX rc@grandecom.net Microsoft Windows MVP (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1) >>>> (cross-post added to 64bit General) >>>>> IE7, Vista Ultimate x64 [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] >>>>> >>>>> Jan :) > Hi, Jan. > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > Now, since - as I said - I'm not deeply involved in the thread, I'll back > off and let you and Robert, Colin, Tony, et al, continue. Thank you very much for the detailed follow-up, RC. Yes, I noticed the sporadic animation in the IE8 mode as compared to the IE7 Emulation for the link you mentioned, but, the other did work fine in both modes. The fact that since I uninstalled the IE8 neither of the sites will now work properly, even the one that had worked without fault in IE8, is the puzzlement. I can't seem to find out what changed, or where. Also, the one link that no longer will load says that Adobe Flash is required, yet, when I try to install it, it says that I have the current version installed, even after I uninstalled it to try to reinstall to see that they would solve the problem, and so now I can't reinstalle the Adobe Flash that is needed. It it "Miller time" yet Kemo Sabe?? :o)) Jan :) > RC >> [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] >>>>>> >>>>>> Jan :) I just don't remember - does IE7 have an SP for Vista? Tony. . . >I just don't remember - does IE7 have an SP for Vista? I may be wrong, and as you obviously are not using the US version of Vista, I can not say if Vista SP updates would apply to any and all IE7 installs, be they core or seperate installs. While IE may not be a core part of all Vista versions, I really have no idea if such updates would apply to all IE, including installs that are not part of the core software. I truly don't know, Tony. Maybe there are others here who are more into that area who might be able to add more light on the subject. I am only at the "G" part of the Geek status. :o) Jan :) No, I am in Denmark and although I exclusivly use English software (spell-checkers not counting) the US version cannot be distributed overseas, as far as I know. So the English version I use goes by the name 'International'. Here, in the begining, it is slightly cheaper than the previous Danish version (because it hasn't been translated yet), later on, you can only get it at a premium, which is why I developed into being an early adopter of many things! It is true, the internals are different, and I am having trouble keeping abreast with it all as sometimes the differences seem to differ too. I confess, I was gripping at straws back there - I was thinking if there were some little part that you could re-install? Well - what about your restore-points? Have we gone through those here all ready? If you remove the TCP/IP stack, your IE will go blind and lame all at once - do a couple of cold-boots giving it time to settle and warm up nicely in between, and then re-install the stack - sounds too crazy! It certainly belongs in the category of the longer shots, but then, it would seem your issue was triggered by something trivial? It's one bitter cure I wouldn't mind swallowing in a critical situation - I do not think you risk any further trouble - something you're not seeing now, and I begin to think you'll end up doing a 'repair' install anyhow! Tony. . . > >I just don't remember - does IE7 have an SP for Vista? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jan :) Thanks for the explanation on the version variations, Tony. The IE8 has been on the machine for several months and the Restore Points don't go back that far so that is not really an option. While I could go back to before I uninstalled the IE8, it would not help with the fact that once uninstalled I would face the same problem. You may be right about the repair. That may be the only alternative other than a reinstall. Being as it is a test machine I have an image so it would not be all that bad. I was interested in finding out what caused the problem and perhaps how to fix it so that I might be able to help others who may run into the same problem. A repair is not something that I like to recommend first off if perhaps something less extreme will work. Jan :) > No, I am in Denmark and although I exclusivly use English software > (spell-checkers not counting) the US version cannot be distributed [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >> >> Jan :) O.K. - this being the case, I think I would be tempted to go back to the '8' and let it run for a while before taking it away again. It might not be the same, who knows what all the electrons were up to at the time? Everything has an explanation - but not all explanations can be found. Tony. . . > Thanks for the explanation on the version variations, Tony. The IE8 has > been on the machine for several months and the Restore Points don't go back [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > >> > >> Jan :) Worth a try I guess....don't seem to have much to lose at this point if it does not work. :-) Jan :) > O.K. - this being the case, I think I would be tempted to go back to the > '8' [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] >> >> >> >> Jan :) No. Vista SP1 does have some updates for IE7 but the last IE to have its own service pack was 6. IE8 will be entering beta 2 in a few months but is still pretty far from rtm. There is still a chance for an IE7 service pack because IE8 would be optional in Vista anyway, but there is no chatter about one that I have seen. btw, according to the service pack lifecycle table, support ended for installation of IE6 SP1 in 2006. For IE6 SP1 already installed on a version of Windows, support ends as that version of Windows is retired. >I just don't remember - does IE7 have an SP for Vista? > > Tony. . . > Thank you very much for the detailed follow-up, RC. Ditto. Now at least I know about what controls to try. ; ) I agree with RC, I think the problem is more likely to be your map. E.g. when I zoom out to show the whole United States the animation works fine but at the zoom level that you had it was stuck in a "Loading 2 of 0" state. It's possible that that error could be due to another configuration problem on my system. E.g. when I went to the Help page I got an Information bar warning that the site wanted to use MSXML 5.0. Well, I have MSXML 6.0 and I'm not sure that I want to install MSXML 5.0 just for this. YMMV. > Yes, I noticed the > sporadic animation in the IE8 mode as compared to the IE7 Emulation for the > link you mentioned, but, the other did work fine in both modes. The fact > that since I uninstalled the IE8 neither of the sites will now work > properly, even the one that had worked without fault in IE8, is the > puzzlement. I can't seem to find out what changed, or where. Try at least zooming out so you know that it isn't a problem with the data. > Also, the one > link that no longer will load says that Adobe Flash is required, yet, when I > try to install it, it says that I have the current version installed, even > after I uninstalled it to try to reinstall to see that they would solve the > problem, and so now I can't reinstalle the Adobe Flash that is needed. Those are other details that ProcMon might help you analyse. <eg> However, you might get a few new clues by using Process Explorer instead. E.g. with it when the map is loaded I can see (after doing a Ctrl-f for flash) that iexplore.exe has Flash9f.ocx loaded. In my case it is loaded from F:\WINDOWS\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash9f.ocx Note the System32 in that path? I'm wondering if you might have two choices for it on your x64 and if so which one is chosen? Another possibility, particularly since you are getting messages from the web site about x64, is that the OS in your User-Agent is confusing things. In that case you could try changing your User-Agent so the OS is spoofed. I don't know if the standard User-Agent overrides try spoofing the OS or not. > It > it "Miller time" yet Kemo Sabe?? :o)) I'd say it was time for more testing so you can refine your symptom description... ; ) Good luck Robert --- >> Thank you very much for the detailed follow-up, RC. > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Note the System32 in that path? I'm wondering if you might have two > choices for it on your x64 and if so which one is chosen? Well......curiously, I was finally able to install the Flash, but, I am not finding anything for Macromed/Flash/Flash9f.ocx in my Windows/System32. I'm running a search in the hard drive to see if it comes up elsewhere. There is a Program Files and Program Files (86) and I checked both and found nothing related to Macromedia or Flash. Yet, it says I have version 9 installed. So, hopefully the Search will let me know where it is. > Another possibility, particularly since you are getting messages from the > web site about x64, is that the OS in your User-Agent is confusing things. > In that case you could try changing your User-Agent so the OS is spoofed. > I don't know if the standard User-Agent overrides try spoofing the OS or > not. Don't know about that one...how would I do that? >> It >> it "Miller time" yet Kemo Sabe?? :o)) > > I'd say it was time for more testing so you can refine your > symptom description... ; ) Ohh phooh! :-)) Ok...well.......the best I can refine my sympton description is: Unfortunately, the map here will not appear at all. http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/map/interactive/20186?from=36h r_svrWarn_driving&zoom=8&interactiveMapLayer=radar I get the page and the framing and all, but, the map itself does not show. The map on this page does originally display, but, after I click on the Show map in motion tries to switch to the animation mode and just hangs: http://www.weather.com/weather/map/USVA0808?showanimation=yes&mapregion=us_ric_c loseradar_plus_usen That is all that I can tell you about the symptoms. On this one I can't Zoom out, that feature does not work on this map. Not sure what else you are looking for as far as symptoms go. I'll do some more testing with the Filemon and such, and see if it turns up anything, at least that I can decipher. Jan :) > Good luck > > Robert > --- What do you see in your browser add-ons? There should be an Adobe Flash Object, at least. > Well......curiously, I was finally able to install the Flash, but, I am > not finding anything for Macromed/Flash/Flash9f.ocx in my [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > says I have version 9 installed. So, hopefully the Search will let me > know where it is. No...there is nothing there for Adobe. Jan :) > What do you see in your browser add-ons? There should be an Adobe Flash > Object, at least. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> says I have version 9 installed. So, hopefully the Search will let me >> know where it is. |
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