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Windows Forum / Outlook Express / OE 6.x / April 2004Message rules
Is there any way to identify WHICH rule targeted a particular email? I have a couple of dozen rules defined, some with dozens of key words, in an attempt to get rid of spam and I use key words such as "mortgage, viagra, teen-porn", etc. to try and hook them. But, I am finding more and more that some of my own messages are being sent to the Spam folder when they end up being resent to me by others. I would like to be able to see which rule is catching it and make modifications. Thanks, Tom Probably a text rule. If you, for example, put "sex" in the rule, words like Essex, England will be filtered. Alias > Is there any way to identify WHICH rule targeted a particular email? I have > a couple of dozen rules defined, some with dozens of key words, in an [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tom >> Is there any way to identify WHICH rule targeted a particular email? >> I have a couple of dozen rules defined, some with dozens of key [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> Tom > Probably a text rule. If you, for example, put "sex" in the rule, > words like Essex, England will be filtered. > > Alias ...and "Scunthorpe" (in Lincolnshire, UK). This subject in another ng recently developed quite a thread suggesting words with 'naughty' letter-sequences liable to be caught by spam filters.  SignatureDB. > Is there any way to identify WHICH rule targeted a particular email? I have > a couple of dozen rules defined, some with dozens of key words, in an [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tom Forward one of the messages to yourself. If it still goes to the wrong folder, go to message rules and uncheck a few. Forward the message again and keep unchecking, and re-checking the ones you have tried until you narrow it down. Bruce Yeah, I know but that's a lot of work. I have a lot of rules with a lot of words. I was hoping for something like a PowerToy that would LIST what rule got it. Thanks anyway, Tom > > Is there any way to identify WHICH rule targeted a particular email? I > have [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Bruce Well, you would only have to check the rules that send the mail to that particular folder, not all of them. Don't have to check any Delete from server rules. I only have 8 rules myself and while nothing is perfect, I do fairly well. Bruce > Yeah, I know but that's a lot of work. I have a lot of rules with a lot of > words. I was hoping for something like a PowerToy that would LIST what rule [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > > Bruce Hi Bruce, Would you be willing to share your email address with me? kuaytim(at)earthlink.net SignatureTim K. aka Kuay Tim MVP - (IE/OE) Lynnwood, WA * > Well, you would only have to check the rules that send the mail to that > particular folder, not all of them. Don't have to check any Delete from [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > > > > > Bruce Whatever for? By the way, I see you are sharing your email address with the world. Good luck. You will need it. Papa, I'm not saying, but thanks for the good wishes. SignatureTim K. aka Kuay Tim MVP - (IE/OE) Lynnwood, WA * > Whatever for? By the way, I see you are sharing your email address with the > world. Good luck. You will need it. Tom, I always thought that rules were applied from the top down [hence the possibility to order them]. Try going through them with the erroneously places message. I too have quite a few rules, [SPAM etc.,] so I make sure that each rule has a "Stop processing" in it, and that the SPAM is always last on the list [I also make good use of the comments line at the bottom when writing a rule. BTW, I often wondered if there was a way to print out the rules [other than C&P of the windows] .. would be my second wish, just below a facility to PRINT in the outcome for OE rules. After all, it is available for OUTlook ... Usual ... > Yeah, I know but that's a lot of work. I have a lot of rules with a lot of > words. I was hoping for something like a PowerToy that would LIST what rule [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > > Bruce Usual, Thanks for the input. I don't understand what you mean with making good use of the comment line at the bottom? Also, with the Stop Processing, what exactly does that mean? Does it mean that if you have 25 messages and it sees spam in the first message it quits screening the other 24 messages? Thanks, Tom > Tom, I always thought that rules were applied from the top down > [hence the possibility to order them]. Try going through them with the [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > > > > > Bruce > Usual, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Tom No. It means that if a message fits that rule it won't check THAT message against anymore rules. SignatureFrank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE Please respond in Newsgroup. Do not send email http://www.fjsmjs.com Protect your PC http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ Tom, You might try to change the color of the message b4 it goes to the Spam folder. hth, Ted >> Is there any way to identify WHICH rule targeted a particular email? >> I have a couple of dozen rules defined, some with dozens of key [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> Tom Hi Tom: Using phrases and words in message rules causes more problems than it solves, because they will stop as many legitimate messages (if not more) as the ones you don't want. I use only one message rule for email, and that rule stops almost all of the undesirable stuff. It is: for all incoming email that does NOT have my real address in the TO or CC line, delete it from the server. Also, and I see you do it too, I use a fake address for all newsgroup postings. In addition to that, I use two email addresses and keep them strictly separated. One of them is for family and friends. The other is for business and online transactions. > Is there any way to identify WHICH rule targeted a particular email? I have > a couple of dozen rules defined, some with dozens of key words, in an [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tom Papa, I really like the idea to filter the messages that are NOT addressed to me but to variations of my address. But, I don't know how to do that. I see how to delete it if it is FROM someone but I don't see NOT FROM. Any guideance will be appreciated. Thanks, Tom > Hi Tom: > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > > > Tom > Papa, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Tom After you put in your address and click Add, click Options. SignatureFrank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE Please respond in Newsgroup. Do not send email http://www.fjsmjs.com Protect your PC http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ Thanks for ALL your suggestions over the years. That one was faily well hidden. Tom > > Papa, > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > After you put in your address and click Add, click Options. >> > I really like the idea to filter the messages that are NOT >> > addressed [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> > >> > Tom "> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP IE/OE" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message > news:%23tpVDbpHEHA.2376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> After you put in your address and click Add, click Options. > Thanks for ALL your suggestions over the years. That one was fairly > well > hidden. > > Tom Yes, indeed. How to specify "NOT from" had puzzled me for ages! Incidentally, I guess that much of your spam is from the Far East with gobbledegook in the subject line, using characters like "?", "[" etc. Filtering using just three or four of such characters (carefully selected) in "Message Rules" is most effective in stopping them. Use "Character Map", of course, to select them. SignatureDB. D.B., Actually, I don't get any spam from the Far-East which is surprising since I spend most of my time in Seoul (I work here). But, the NOT address filter did not work because they usually send the spam to variations of my address and it actually did include my real address along with all the other variations. So, it came through anyway. I wonder if there is any way to tell it to figure that out? Tom > >> > I really like the idea to filter the messages that are NOT > >> > addressed [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > selected) in "Message Rules" is most effective in stopping them. Use > "Character Map", of course, to select them. Frank, Is there any way to filter out out the message if they use multiple addresses (usually variations on mine) and one of them is my correct one. I guess if I think about it, that would (at best) filter our any legitimate message that was addressed to me and others. Oh well, never mind. Thanks anyway. Tom > > Papa, > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > After you put in your address and click Add, click Options. Frank, Sorry to be a bother but now that I have done that, ALL my mail goes into the Spam folder. Here is the rule I specified. Apply this rule after the message arrives Where the To line does not contain 'MYADDRESS@att.net' or 'MYADDRESS@worldnet.att.net' or Where the CC line does not contain 'MYADDRESS@worldnet.att.net' or 'MYADDRESS@worldnet.att.net' Move it to the .Spam folder and Highlight it with Maroon and Stop processing more rules What did I do wrong? As I said, EVERYTHING goes into the spam folder now .. including messages simply addressed to MYADDRESS@ATT.NET. Thanks, Tom > > Papa, > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > After you put in your address and click Add, click Options. > Frank, > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Tom Instead of using Where To ... and then using Where CC ... Use the next one down, Where To or CC contains ... The top of your choices moves everything that doesn't have your address in To and the bottom everything that doesn't have it in CC. OE uses very strict Boolean logic. Or else change your rule to: Where the To line does not contain 'MYADDRESS@att.net' or 'MYADDRESS@worldnet.att.net' and Where the CC line does not contain 'MYADDRESS@worldnet.att.net' or 'MYADDRESS@worldnet.att.net' SignatureFrank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE Please respond in Newsgroup. Do not send email http://www.fjsmjs.com Protect your PC http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ as has been said MANY times, you are better off to FILTER IN the mail you want , leaving the rest to garbage. create filters for your email address and any mail letters you are subscribed to. you can even use your address book to filter in. someone else mentioned another possibility to do JUST what you ask. add to your existing rules the Hilight it with color option and create a different color for each rule. that way you can tell which rule caught it by the color good luck. mikeyhsd@bellsouth.net Is there any way to identify WHICH rule targeted a particular email? I have a couple of dozen rules defined, some with dozens of key words, in an attempt to get rid of spam and I use key words such as "mortgage, viagra, teen-porn", etc. to try and hook them. But, I am finding more and more that some of my own messages are being sent to the Spam folder when they end up being resent to me by others. I would like to be able to see which rule is catching it and make modifications. Thanks, Tom Thanks Mikey. Those are good suggestions. I'll give that color deal a shot. I was not even aware off it until I posted this question. Thanks, Tom as has been said MANY times, you are better off to FILTER IN the mail you want , leaving the rest to garbage. create filters for your email address and any mail letters you are subscribed to. you can even use your address book to filter in. someone else mentioned another possibility to do JUST what you ask. add to your existing rules the Hilight it with color option and create a different color for each rule. that way you can tell which rule caught it by the color good luck. mikeyhsd@bellsouth.net Is there any way to identify WHICH rule targeted a particular email? I have a couple of dozen rules defined, some with dozens of key words, in an attempt to get rid of spam and I use key words such as "mortgage, viagra, teen-porn", etc. to try and hook them. But, I am finding more and more that some of my own messages are being sent to the Spam folder when they end up being resent to me by others. I would like to be able to see which rule is catching it and make modifications. Thanks, Tom See these rules. Especially #4. http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm Bruce > Is there any way to identify WHICH rule targeted a particular email? I have > a couple of dozen rules defined, some with dozens of key words, in an [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tom Please tell me how to filter on an empty To or Cc. line? I tried and didn't have much luck. Did you create a user with a blank name and then select that from the address book? I don't even know if it will let you. I am having great success in getting my message rules working as it currently puts ALL my email in the spam folder. I guess I still have a bug or two. Tom > See these rules. Especially #4. > http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > > Tom > Please tell me how to filter on an empty To or Cc. line? I tried and > didn't have much luck. Did you create a user with a blank name and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Tom Where To or CC does not contain '@' My rule: Apply this rule after the message arrives Where the From line does not contain '@' or Where the To line does not contain '@' Move it to the Spam folder and Stop processing more rules SignatureFrank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE Please respond in Newsgroup. Do not send email http://www.fjsmjs.com Protect your PC http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ |
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