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"Non-Text" Spam Ads
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Janetb - 30 Jul 2006 07:37 GMT Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message Rule for Spam 7/24), I am simplifying to a very specific question with a more accurate Subject....
Many spam ads have constantly changing addresses and subjects and a message body which Selects only as a single, solid block. Is there any way to access the text in such message bodies to make a Message Body message rule in OE to filter them out? Any other way (some piece of common data in their Properties window?) to make any kind of message rule for them?
Since I am used to OE, I would like if possible to do it within OE or some sort of simple accessory which performs this one function rather than replacing OE with a major, new program. I have 2KPro--not XP---if that makes a difference.
 Signature Thanks for the help! Janet
Ken - 30 Jul 2006 09:32 GMT Hi Janeth,
You could have a rule to look for vowels a, e, i, o, u and numbers 1 thru 0 in the message, if none are found then it probably could be your spam message.
Ken
| Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message Rule for | Spam 7/24), I am simplifying to a very specific question with a more accurate [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] | replacing OE with a major, new program. I have 2KPro--not XP---if that makes | a difference. Janetb - 30 Jul 2006 11:58 GMT What a clever idea! I will give it a try and report back...:-)....
Thanks for the help! Janet
> Hi Janeth, > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > makes > | a difference. Janetb - 30 Jul 2006 14:53 GMT Hold on---how would you do that? If no vowels were found, the rule would not select that email to perform the required action (Delete) on, and it would remain in the Inbox.....Is there some way to specify 'not-x' in the rule conditions?
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> Hi Janeth, > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > makes > | a difference. Bruce Hagen - 30 Jul 2006 15:03 GMT This is a Message Body rule, correct? Here's how to do it for a blank Subject, From, To & CC and Message Body.
For Blank Subject:
Box 1 - Where the Subject line contains specific words Box 2 - Delete it from server Box 3 - Click on the blue "Contains specific words" and Add *one at a time* a, e, i, o, u, y, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, Click: Options and change to: Does not contain....
{This is how it's been suggested to create the rule for a long time. I include the entire alphabet so an e-mail with a subject like XP will not be rejected).
For Blank From: See rule #1, and For Blank To & CC: See rule # 2 here: http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm
For Blank Message Body, Do the same as Blank Subject, but for the action, choose: Delete It and Stop processing more rules, as the message has to be download for the rule to realize the message body is blank.
 Signature Bruce Hagen MS MVP - Outlook Express ~IB-CA~
> Hold on---how would you do that? If no vowels were found, the rule would > not [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> makes >> | a difference. Ken - 30 Jul 2006 15:33 GMT Message Rule....
1: Select, Where the message body contains specific words.
2: Select, Move to specific folder (just for test purpose)
3: Select, Where the message body does not contain 'a' or 'e' or 'i' or 'o' or 'u' or '1' or '2' or '3' or '4' or '5' or '6' or '7' or '8' or '9' or '0'
In number 3 above, after you add "a", Options will change from grayed out, click it to select "does not contain".
Hope this helps, Ken
| Hold on---how would you do that? If no vowels were found, the rule would not | select that email to perform the required action (Delete) on, and it would [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] | > makes | > | a difference. Janetb - 30 Jul 2006 16:30 GMT DEAR BRUCE and KEN,
I don't think this will work because it is not a blank message body: these letters all have the equivalent of at least a paragraph's worth of nonsense (ie streams of phrases or words, always different) following the solid block. This nonsense part of the letter is proper text, so the rules will not pick out the email......
Thanks for showing me you get the Options after Adding.
So the problem still stands......
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> Message Rule.... > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > | > makes > | > | a difference. Bruce Hagen - 30 Jul 2006 16:42 GMT Ah. I thought it was a blank message body you were referring to. Other that a spam program, you can see if any of these message rule ideas are helpful, but none will address this specific problem only.
Some Message Rule Ideas: http://www.mindspring.com/~majik/messagerules.htm
Some tips: http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/rules.htm
Message Rules not working?: http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/faqs/why.htm#rules
 Signature Bruce Hagen MS MVP - Outlook Express ~IB-CA~
> DEAR BRUCE and KEN, > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] >> | > makes >> | > | a difference. Janetb - 30 Jul 2006 17:17 GMT Hi Bruce, None of your links address the problem, as far as I can see...
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> Ah. I thought it was a blank message body you were referring to. Other that > a spam program, you can see if any of these message rule ideas are helpful, [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > >> | > makes > >> | > | a difference. antioch - 30 Jul 2006 16:51 GMT Your post states 'non-text' ?????? Antioch
> DEAR BRUCE and KEN, > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] >> | > makes >> | > | a difference. Janetb - 30 Jul 2006 17:20 GMT Yes, the ad (which is common to all the emails) is a block which looks like text, but when you go to select a particular word or phrase, you cannot---it selects the whole block as a single unit. The question of this post was to find out if there is a way to refer to this common 'object' in a message rule in order to delete all emails which include it.
janet
> Your post states 'non-text' ?????? > Antioch [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > >> | > makes > >> | > | a difference. Kuay Tim - 30 Jul 2006 16:55 GMT Hi Janet,
It might not be helpful for this particular problem, but many spam messages are not addressed to the recipient on the To: line. A message rule can be used to redirect messages not sent to one of your e-mail addresses to the Deleted Items or other folder created for the purpose. The headers can be occasionally checked to assure that valid e-mails are not being filtered.
Where the To line contains people -- does not contain: address1, address2 (addresses or addresses you use) Move to Folder: Deleted Items (or other folder) Stop processing more rules
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DEAR BRUCE and KEN,
I don't think this will work because it is not a blank message body: these letters all have the equivalent of at least a paragraph's worth of nonsense (ie streams of phrases or words, always different) following the solid block. This nonsense part of the letter is proper text, so the rules will not pick out the email......
Thanks for showing me you get the Options after Adding.
So the problem still stands......
 Signature Thanks for the help! Janet
"Ken" wrote:
> Message Rule.... > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > | > makes > | > | a difference. Janetb - 30 Jul 2006 17:24 GMT The To: lines are to my proper email address. The From: Line and Subject: line are constantly changing.
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> Hi Janet, > [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > > | > makes > > | > | a difference. Ken - 30 Jul 2006 17:10 GMT Re: I don't think this will work because it is not a blank message body: these letters all have the equivalent of at least a paragraph's worth of nonsense
Sneaky little suckers.
You could create rules that will only allow all known people messages into the Inbox folder, all other messages get sent to a folder for further checking..
Ken
| DEAR BRUCE and KEN, | [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] | > | > makes | > | > | a difference. phants - 30 Jul 2006 17:33 GMT > Hold on---how would you do that? If no vowels were found, the rule would > not > select that email to perform the required action (Delete) on, and it would > remain in the Inbox.....Is there some way to specify 'not-x' in the rule > conditions? Hi Janet;
At one time I had this same problem and experimented for a long time to find something that would work... I'm going on memory here, so you may have to experiment to get it right...
Most of this type of spam comes from servers that do not send much other useful mail - It is probably no loss to block the entire server...
In the message rules you can block all messages from the server that this mail comes from. Create the rule to block badmail@annoyance.com and then delete the "name" portion, leaving just "@annoyance.com"
In the beginning - direct it to the deleted folder, which you can manually check for mail that you may want... After a while you can stop checking...
Worked for me...
:-} Janetb - 30 Jul 2006 19:27 GMT All the addresses are different in the parts both before AND after the "@"......(ie there is not what you refer to as a common server).....
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> > Hold on---how would you do that? If no vowels were found, the rule would > > not [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > :-} antioch - 30 Jul 2006 16:06 GMT > Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message Rule for > Spam 7/24), I am simplifying to a very specific question with a more [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > makes > a difference. Hi Janet I did read your other post but you did not qualify the type/format of the spam you were getting, otherwise I would have given you my input(for what it is worth) I now believe what you are getting is the .gif type spam i.e. it is to all intents a picture and NOT text - hence message rules as commonly used will have no effect. Some months back when this type became more prevalent, I posted the suggestion(not mine)that message rules could work, but it was a very 'long-winded' job. In message rules, you stipulate blocking any message that does 'not contain' a letter of the alphabet, since this type of email has no letters. You need to do one rule for each letter. You can add numbers one to ten if you wish. This does work - I have not tried it though - according to feedback. The other alternative is to contact your ISP - they may provide a spam block service where all suspect spam is put into your Mail Box. The odd one or two might get through, but if you get 20+ per day you will be more than happy to only get one or two. Not all ISPs can block .gif spam - yet. Some still have no spam blocking service at all. Those ISPs who do have this spam blocking service, as the norm, expect you to go to your mail box and check for any genuine emails that may have got pulled in with the spam. My ISP will delete all spam in my mail box every 7 days, by date age. Rgds Antioch
Janetb - 30 Jul 2006 17:30 GMT Yes, I assumed the pseudo-text was some sort of image, but was unable to establish what kind. Yes, the question was basically how to put an image check in a rule message. Your other suggestions have been covered in the posts in this thread.
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> > Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message Rule for > > Spam 7/24), I am simplifying to a very specific question with a more [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > Rgds > Antioch antioch - 30 Jul 2006 23:27 GMT Reply under your recent post - Antioch
> Yes, I assumed the pseudo-text was some sort of image, but was unable to > establish what kind. Yes, the question was basically how to put an image > check in a rule message. Your other suggestions have been covered in the > posts in this thread. Then that is all that can be done - as far as I know at this time. Choices 1. Use the whole alphabet message rule 2. See if your ISP provides this type of spam blocking - if not find one that does and change or not change. 3. Google all spam blocking progs. and see which ones are able to block the spam. I cannot think of a fourth - oh, apart from just deleting it when you get it. Start here first - I am sure this is the one used by my ISP - it catches 99% of all household germs :-) :-) Don't forget to let us know what happens
http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Email_Tools/Anti-SPAM_Tools/free/alpha1.html
and good luck.
>> > Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message Rule >> > for [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >> Rgds >> Antioch N. Miller - 30 Jul 2006 19:57 GMT > Since my last post has received no response in five days (Message Rule for > Spam 7/24), I am simplifying to a very specific question with a more accurate [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > replacing OE with a major, new program. I have 2KPro--not XP---if that makes > a difference. I see a number of varieties of spam. Much is "multipart", with an HTML component that carries the payload, and a text component that carries a "hashbuster"; random text designed to be changed with each message in a spam run. The purpose is to break the "hash" created by anti spam systems such as DCC and Razor.
Some carries images, in a base64 encoded block of text, and, again, "hashbuster" text.
I am getting spam to a MyRealBox account which is so minimal in payload content that, even with the capability of the Mercury/32 filters to check against header lines which MSOE ignores, it is difficult to filter. E.g.:
| Received: from spooler by aosake.net (Mercury/32 v4.01b); 30 Jul 2006 08:45:14 -0700 | X-Envelope-To: Local User [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] | were prowling closer suffer for to us? | to realize the scantiness of her apparel and diamond drew The rule I settled on for this one looks like this:
| If header "CT" contains "My Name" SkipNext "A/S" | If header "CT" contains "#@myrealbox.com" Move "A/S" That is from the rule file in Mercury/32; this program uses a text file for the rules.
First line says to skip the next line if my actual name appears in "To:" or "Cc:".
The second line, which would be skipped on a match in the first line, says to move email which has my MRB email address to a different account ("A/S" means "Anti Spam"; but the account really has a given Christian name).
I use Pegasus Mail, in conjunction with the Mercury/32 MTA; and both have a rich ruleset. I don't use MSOE, so I don't know how to accomplish similar with MSOE.
OTOH, the rules I created will only work with this account because it is so rarely used, and only by me for certain tests. I can use a technique like this because I don't have to worry about correspondents sending me email without the exact given name I have specified in my rules. Otherwise, I would have to try and create a scoring rule in the Content Checks, which applies points to words in the message body, and/or headers, where the points would add up to enough to cross a "spammy" threshold for this message, while not crossing the threshold for a non-spam message.
MSOE is just not capable of anything like that, at all. In fact, the primary reason that I moved to Pegasus Mail over MS Outlook Express is the richness of the filters. And, with the latest release, Pegasus Mail 4.41, Pegasus Mail has included a Naive Bayesian spam filter.
I further switched from relying on third parties for email to running my own server, for my own domain, because that gives me better control over the SMTP transaction, which is where the spam is injected into the SMTP system.
This is not for everybody, though; and, if you insist on staying with MS Outlook Express, you will have to use the tricks commonly posted here; "Filtering In" (whitelisting), and such.
Sometimes, MSOE can be finagled to work with an anti spam filter proxy, which interposes between MSOE and the POP3 server. I have used POPFile with succes, but K9 seems to be more popular. Both use Naive Bayesian statistical analysis of the words appearing in email. They "learn" as you click on the choice of "spam", or "ham"; and the corpus used for analysis is unique to each user, thus foiling spammer efforts to "poison" the filter with hashbusters.
K9: http://keir.net/k9.html POPFile: http://popfile.sourceforge.net/
Other than that, getting effective spam rules in MS Outlook Express is very difficult; it was never designed for filtering spam.
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