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Rob - 03 Jul 2008 22:47 GMT
Every post I make to newsgroups is being maliciously tracked by a certain
individual. I then receive pornographic email at home. Is there a way to
conceal one's identity completely (headers) when posting to a newsgroup
using Outlook Express 6.0?

Rob
Richard in AZ - 03 Jul 2008 22:56 GMT
> Every post I make to newsgroups is being maliciously tracked by a certain
> individual. I then receive pornographic email at home. Is there a way to
> conceal one's identity completely (headers) when posting to a newsgroup
> using Outlook Express 6.0?
>
> Rob

Yes, set up your newsgroup account with a fictitious name and email address.
If you want a truly throw-away address, that you can still check, if need
be, look at www.mailinator.com
D. Spencer Hines - 04 Jul 2008 01:26 GMT
No...

That's a...

COWARDLY way to act.

Use your REAL NAME...

DON'T HIDE behind a PSEUDONYM such as:

"Ildhund"

But use a throwaway or fictitious email address in order to protect yourself
from SPAM, VIRUSES, DEATH THREATS, WORMS, IDENTITY THIEVES, CHILD MOLESTERS,
et alii.  I know from experience.

I don't trust ANYONE who won't use HIS or HER Real Name.

WOMEN may prefer to use only the FIRST name...

That's not desirable or preferable -- but entirely acceptable...

As there are malicious, molester loons out there.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Deus Vult

>> Every post I make to newsgroups is being maliciously tracked by a certain
>> individual. I then receive pornographic email at home. Is there a way to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Yes, set up your newsgroup account with a fictitious name and email
> address.

> If you want a truly throw-away address, that you can still check, if need
> be, look at www.mailinator.com
N. Miller - 04 Jul 2008 19:12 GMT
>>> Every post I make to newsgroups is being maliciously tracked by a certain
>>> individual. I then receive pornographic email at home. Is there a way to
>>> conceal one's identity completely (headers) when posting to a newsgroup
>>> using Outlook Express 6.0?

>> Yes, set up your newsgroup account with a fictitious name and email
>> address.
>
>> If you want a truly throw-away address, that you can still check, if need
>> be, look at www.mailinator.com

> No...
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Deus Vult

Pseudonyms have been used by perfectly honorable people for perfectly
honorable reasons. Ever read any of Samuel Clemens' works? You probably will
have better luck find his works listed under the author, "Mark Twain".

I post under a number of pseudonyms for a number of reasons (admittedly some
not so upstanding).

The main suggestion I would make is to pick a pseudonym to use in a group,
and stick with it. If you are making reputable posts, you will build a good
reputation for that "Nym".

It is perfectly okay to use an email address which goes nowhere.

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Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

D. Spencer Hines - 04 Jul 2008 20:38 GMT
Twaddle...

Not the same thing at all as hiding behind a pseudonym on the Internet.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

>Ever read any of Samuel Clemens' works? You probably will
> have better luck find his works listed under the author, "Mark Twain".

> I post under a number of pseudonyms for a number of reasons (admittedly
> some not so upstanding).

You bet...

Cowardly, Weaseling Reasons.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
N. Miller - 05 Jul 2008 00:11 GMT
> Twaddle...
>
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>
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Damn! How can anyone as smart as you pretend to be muck up a response so?
Top post one comment; leave a quote attribution in the middle, and bottom
post another? Did you study to be so goofy, or were you born that way?

Anyway, there are a number of good reasons for creating different "persona"
for responding in different groups; and bad ones, as well.

You don't need to know my "real" name; you only need to know if the persona
I am using is consistent; whether consistently good, consistently right,
consistently wrong, or consistently evil.

What is bad is not using pseudonyms, but "morphing" to annoy the residents.

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Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

D. Spencer Hines - 05 Jul 2008 02:40 GMT
Errant Twaddle...

Another little PFK who doesn't want the college admissions officers and
employers to be able to trace him on the Internet.

People who hide behind pseudonyms on the Internet get ZERO respect.

'Nuff Said.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
----------------------------------------

> ou don't need to know my "real" name; you only need to know if the persona
> I am using is consistent; whether consistently good, consistently right,
> consistently wrong, or consistently evil.
N. Miller - 05 Jul 2008 20:49 GMT
>> ou don't need to know my "real" name; you only need to know if the persona
>> I am using is consistent; whether consistently good, consistently right,
>> consistently wrong, or consistently evil.

> Errant Twaddle...
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> 'Nuff Said.

I suspect that college admissions officers and employers have better things
to do than scan the Internet for prospective students' and employees'
postings. And, in any case, what I do in my off time (outside of school and
work) is none of their, or your, GDB.

I don't know D. Specer Hines from Adam, and I give him no more respect than
I would give to Jeffrey Dahmer, or Charles Manson. For all that I know, D.
Spencer Hines is the next mass murderer whom I will be watching on Fox News.

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Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

D. Spencer Hines - 05 Jul 2008 21:24 GMT
Many of the obtuse and stultified would be AMAZED at what college admissions
officers and employers look for in applicants' records -- at the more
prestigious universities.

Particularly in the Post-9/11 World.

'Nuff Said.

DSH
-------------------------------------------------

>> Another little PFK who doesn't want the college admissions officers and
>> employers to be able to trace him on the Internet.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> things to do than scan the Internet for prospective students' and
> employees' postings.
N. Miller - 06 Jul 2008 00:23 GMT
>>> Another little PFK who doesn't want the college admissions officers and
>>> employers to be able to trace him on the Internet.
>>>
>>> People who hide behind pseudonyms on the Internet get ZERO respect.
>>>
>>> 'Nuff Said.

>> I suspect that college admissions officers and employers have better
>> things to do than scan the Internet for prospective students' and
>> employees' postings.

> Many of the obtuse and stultified would be AMAZED at what college admissions
> officers and employers look for in applicants' records -- at the more
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> 'Nuff Said.

And many of the more prestigious outfits probably have money to burn on the
lawsuits that they would face for assuming that the "N.Miller" they think is
looking for admission, or employment, is not THE Norbert Scummy Miller who
murdered his parents, despite what turned up in their Internet search.

Your assumptions are no more than WAGs (not even SWAGs).

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Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

D. Spencer Hines - 06 Jul 2008 00:52 GMT
Hilarious!...

Und Farblondjet...

Pogue "N. Miller" will never KNOW why he was turned down for admission or
employment.

Universities, law and medical schools and businesses do not have to SAY why
a particular applicant was turned down.

Ignorant PFK [Pimply-Faced Kid] Pogues think they can't be traced by their
ISP's and profiles -- including posting style -- and many other traceable
variables -- which I'm not going to talk about.

Universities and employers hire folks JUST to do this sort of work -- VERY
COMPUTER SAVVY people -- some are students themselves -- who know all the
tricks.

As I said previously, those hiding behind a pseudonym get ZERO Respect.

After all, they are NONENTITIES -- by definition.
Signature

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

>>>> Another little PFK who doesn't want the college admissions officers and
>>>> employers to be able to trace him on the Internet.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> looking for admission, or employment, is not THE Norbert Scummy Miller who
> murdered his parents, despite what turned up in their Internet search.
James Hogg - 08 Aug 2008 15:25 GMT
>No...
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>"Ildhund"

How about hiding behind a pseudonym like Julia294, as some pogue
without cojones did in this thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.outlook
express.wishlist/browse_frm/thread/3b0fa46c52031e87/e6c5d5fd4b04ad5f?lnk=st&q=%2
2Julia294%40hotmail.com%22#e6c5d5fd4b04ad5f


>I don't trust ANYONE who won't use HIS or HER Real Name.

You are exposed once again as a fraud and a hypocrite.

James
Earle Horton - 08 Aug 2008 17:55 GMT
> No...
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> As there are malicious, molester loons out there.

Women are not the only victims of  "malicious, molester loons".  In one of
the Spanish "alt." newsgroups that I subscribe to, one of the participants
once offered $3,000 for the physical identity, location and telephone number
of some guy from Valencia whose opinions were annoying him.  He had a scheme
to pay the anonymous informer using PayPal and everything.  Maybe it was a
joke, maybe not.  If you want to conceal your real identity and avoid a
whole slew of problems, then do so.  If it gives you a macho thrill to use
your real name, secure in the knowledge that you have plenty of buckshot in
your ammunition closet, then do that too.

But please don't stoop to calling people cowards.  That is something worthy
of the Vista newsgroup.  If you don't trust anyone who won't use his or her
real name, then you close yourself off from a large percentage of the most
useful information posted here.

Cheers,

Earle

> DSH
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>> If you want a truly throw-away address, that you can still check, if need
>> be, look at www.mailinator.com
James Hogg - 08 Aug 2008 21:50 GMT
>> No...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>real name, then you close yourself off from a large percentage of the most
>useful information posted here.

The irony is that "David Spencer Hines" has posted under the fake
name "Julia294" (or vice versa?). If it's cowardly to do so, then
he/she's a coward him/herself.

But then, we knew that already.

James
...winston - 09 Aug 2008 04:32 GMT
Earle...is it becoming clear yet ?

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...winston
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Earle Horton - 09 Aug 2008 06:29 GMT
I use my real name because I have nothing to hide, because most hostile
posters never carry their intentions beyond the keyboard and because
Colorado is a "make my day law" state.  I have seen some people posting
though, who really shouldn't.  These groups aren't so bad, but the Vista
group...  It's understandable, given the subject matter, but 99.99% of posts
are a waste of time.  Just try to get a question about Vista answered.  Half
the people who answer have no idea, and the rest want you to join their
crusade.  Sometimes, someone with a clue posts a response.

Check out the flame war in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys and
alt.binaries.pictures.autos.  "I'm going to send you a subpoena", "Where's
my subpoena, xxxxxxxxxx?", then one of the participants found some kind of
mail-bomb spammer software and all hell broke loose.  He seemed like a
completely normal person at first too.

Don't even mention the spammers and Nigerian inheritance scams...

Sometimes I upload a video to YouTube, but I haven't become anyone's
"friend" yet, despite numerous offers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQA-7Yj456g

Maynard has since figured out, that he can only turn the machine backwards,
and that this doesn't get him any more cat food than he's going to get if he
leaves it alone.  Sometimes, cats are smarter than humans.

Earle

> Earle...is it becoming clear yet ?
...winston - 09 Aug 2008 10:09 GMT
Earle,
I wasn't referring to your specific use, but to those who claim to do similar necessarily don't.

The Vista groups have the same people complaining/flaming/trolling, even though the handles have changed for a few, about Vista
today that did similar on XP.    This group, with an occasional exception, has remained relatively free of that same nuisance.

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...winston
ms-mvp mail

> I use my real name because I have nothing to hide, because most hostile posters never carry their intentions beyond the keyboard
> and because Colorado is a "make my day law" state.  I have seen some people posting though, who really shouldn't.  These groups
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>
>> Earle...is it becoming clear yet ?
Earle Horton - 11 Aug 2008 04:54 GMT
Well let's keep our fingers crossed.  I have received help in the Vista
forum, but I have had to read a lot of trash to get to it.

Earle

> Earle,
> I wasn't referring to your specific use, but to those who claim to do
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>>
>>> Earle...is it becoming clear yet ?
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM - 03 Jul 2008 23:10 GMT
> Every post I make to newsgroups is being maliciously tracked by a certain
> individual. I then receive pornographic email at home. Is there a way to
> conceal one's identity completely (headers) when posting to a newsgroup
> using Outlook Express 6.0?
>
> Rob

Tools | Accounts
Select the news account and click Properties.
Change your Email address to Rob@nowhere.invalid

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Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
Do not reply with email

VanguardLH - 03 Jul 2008 23:42 GMT
> Every post I make to newsgroups is being maliciously tracked by a certain
> individual. I then receive pornographic email at home. Is there a way to
> conceal one's identity completely (headers) when posting to a newsgroup
> using Outlook Express 6.0?
>
> Rob

Look at my e-mail address in this post.  Think I'll ever get e-mail
there?  Munge your e-mail address.  Use a domain that isn't registered
(so it doesn't exist now and won't exist later).  Use .invalid as the
TLD (inplace of .com or .net).  

You are probably getting spam more due to YOU exposing your true e-mail
address in your posts where spambots roam the newsgroups to harvest
them.
Rob - 04 Jul 2008 17:22 GMT
Thank you all for the responses!

I already use a fake email address and fake name when I post to a newsgroup.
It seems that this individual has somehow written a program to scan the
headers of all posts to newsgroups and is able to find my posts. It doesn't
matter if my post is a primary post in a thread or is deep in a thread. OE
6.0 makes bold all new posts when I go to read newsgroups so perhaps this
individual is only scanning for new posts. Anyway, even if I change my fake
email address and fake name, he is able to find my posts.

Rob

> Every post I make to newsgroups is being maliciously tracked by a certain
> individual. I then receive pornographic email at home. Is there a way to
> conceal one's identity completely (headers) when posting to a newsgroup
> using Outlook Express 6.0?
>
> Rob
Michael Santovec - 04 Jul 2008 19:57 GMT
Are his e-mails making specific references to the contents of your
posts?  If not, it could just be random porn mail.

If he is making specific references are these to just a handful of
newsgroups that you regularly post to?  If so, then he may just be
guessing that they are your posts.

There are some identifying headers

From: "Rob" <emasil@email.org>
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
Message-ID: <VaqdneOwesLU0_PVnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@earthlink.com>
X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.181.90.69
X-Trace:
sv3-zUu1Lf06x3qhqCZ5oCcicR1y0a/ngYdnvASf1UEB8ghdDJ7htpVXSvEN1NeYy80ANkR2atgSheU9lwL!d0B75T8Dml1G/Yjm86YP7YsL86w7mlMyi8zfadxTAbCLFJp0Op7ua0o4svxOC4pDThFBj4MVNSxo!BwODiJsHpB9rwxUAwLN8gMs=
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your
complaint properly
X-Postfilter: 1.3.39
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail

The NNTP-Posting-Host: would tend to be the most identifying.  But I
notice that your two posts have different IP addresses.  But from the
the above headers he could tell your news program, news server, and your
ISP.  So if he once had your real e-mail address, he could guess what
posts might be yours.

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Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm

> Thank you all for the responses!
>
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>>
>> Rob
D. Spencer Hines - 04 Jul 2008 20:31 GMT
Have you made an enemy lately?

DSH

> Thank you all for the responses!
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Rob

>> Every post I make to newsgroups is being maliciously tracked by a certain
>> individual. I then receive pornographic email at home. Is there a way to
>> conceal one's identity completely (headers) when posting to a newsgroup
>> using Outlook Express 6.0?
>>
>> Rob
N. Miller - 04 Jul 2008 19:18 GMT
> Every post I make to newsgroups is being maliciously tracked by a certain
> individual. I then receive pornographic email at home. Is there a way to
> conceal one's identity completely (headers) when posting to a newsgroup
> using Outlook Express 6.0?

MS Outlook Express has little to do with what shows up in some header lines.
While you can control the name and email address, you can't control the IP
address. The server you connect to sees your IP address, and either adds it,
or not, depending upon how it is configured. That is up to the NNTP server
administrator.

Consider your posting headers:

| NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:47:25 -0500
| From: Rob <emasil@email.org>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
| X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
| NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.181.89.216

Those are some of the lines I would use to search on. You have control over
line 2. MSOE controls line 3. Your NNTP provider controls the rest.

Signature

Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

Rob - 05 Jul 2008 04:13 GMT
So ......

You say you would search on certain lines in a header ....
Are lines 4 to end unique to me and identify me in all my posts?

I noticed something else this evening .................
I watched as Norton Antivirus scanned my HD tonight. VAV identified whay it
called a "Tracking Cookie". Could this possibly be something this
"character" is using to track my posts to newsgroups?

Rob

>> Every post I make to newsgroups is being maliciously tracked by a certain
>> individual. I then receive pornographic email at home. Is there a way to
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> over
> line 2. MSOE controls line 3. Your NNTP provider controls the rest.
D. Spencer Hines - 05 Jul 2008 05:41 GMT
Hilarious!

DSH

> So ......
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Rob
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 05 Jul 2008 07:14 GMT
If I search this newsgroup for messages FROM emasil@email.org, I get your 3
posts in as a result.

No cookies are involved when accessing newsgroups via a newsreader (e.g.,
OE).
Signature

~PA Bear

> You say you would search on certain lines in a header ....
> Are lines 4 to end unique to me and identify me in all my posts?
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
Rob - 05 Jul 2008 17:28 GMT
Thank you for responding!

Good information! Ok...., you can find messages in this newsgroup from me,
can you automate responding to my messages with a standard response?

You said:
<<> No cookies are involved when accessing newsgroups via a newsreader >>

Would you please explain that further. Could a Cookie on my computer detect
each time I posted to a specified newsgroup?

Thanks for all the information you can provide!!!

> If I search this newsgroup for messages FROM emasil@email.org, I get your
> 3 posts in as a result.
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 05 Jul 2008 17:49 GMT
Using that email address, I can also find your posting history via Google
Groups:
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=author%3Aemasil%40email.org&start=0&sco
ring=d


> can you automate responding to my messages with a standard response?

I could if I wanted to, yes.  So could any number of trojans.

> ...Could a Cookie on my computer detect
> each time I posted to a specified newsgroup?

If you post via OE or another newsreader, no.

> Thank you for responding!
>
[quoted text clipped - 67 lines]
>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
Rob - 05 Jul 2008 19:19 GMT
>> can you automate responding to my messages with a standard response? >>

> I could if I wanted to, yes.  So could any number of trojans.>

Would you email me at rlaird@penn.com and show me how it is done. I don't
think it would be wise to post how it is done here in public!

Thanks!!!

> Using that email address, I can also find your posting history via Google
> Groups:
[quoted text clipped - 85 lines]
>>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 05 Jul 2008 20:33 GMT
No.

>>> can you automate responding to my messages with a standard response? >>
>
[quoted text clipped - 97 lines]
>>>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
D. Spencer Hines - 05 Jul 2008 20:43 GMT
Right!

Keep correspondence IN the newsgroups.

DSH

> No.
>
[quoted text clipped - 101 lines]
>>>>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>>>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
Rob - 06 Jul 2008 00:31 GMT
Would you post here how to automate responding to my messages with a
standard response?

Thanks!!

> No.
>
[quoted text clipped - 101 lines]
>>>>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>>>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 06 Jul 2008 16:32 GMT
No.

> Would you post here how to automate responding to my messages with a
> standard response?
[quoted text clipped - 103 lines]
>>>>>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>>>>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
perrine - 12 Jul 2008 17:50 GMT
bonjour
au
revoire
> Would you post here how to automate responding to my messages with a
> standard response?
[quoted text clipped - 108 lines]
>>>>>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>>>>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
N. Miller - 06 Jul 2008 00:34 GMT
>>> Every post I make to newsgroups is being maliciously tracked by a certain
>>> individual. I then receive pornographic email at home. Is there a way to
>>> conceal one's identity completely (headers) when posting to a newsgroup
>>> using Outlook Express 6.0?

>> MS Outlook Express has little to do with what shows up in some header
>> lines. While you can control the name and email address, you can't control
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>> Those are some of the lines I would use to search on. You have control
>> over line 2. MSOE controls line 3. Your NNTP provider controls the rest.

> So ......
>
> You say you would search on certain lines in a header ....
> Are lines 4 to end unique to me and identify me in all my posts?

Line 2 uniquely identifies you in all posts made using MS Outlook Express as
you have configured it for posting in this news group.

Line 8 *may* also uniquely identify you, if Fibernet assigns it statically
to your account.

Line 6 uniquely identifies the particular post you made; from which I can
deduce that you use Earthlink as an ISP.

Together, lines 6, 7, and 8 identify with whom you have Internet service,
and NNTP service.

There are some NNTP services which don't display your NNTP Posting IP
address; but most do add something in the headers by which a reader can
classify a poster to some degree, or other.

> I noticed something else this evening .................
> I watched as Norton Antivirus scanned my HD tonight. VAV identified whay it
> called a "Tracking Cookie". Could this possibly be something this
> "character" is using to track my posts to newsgroups?

No. There are no cookies used on NNTP servers accessed by news clients, such
as MS Outlook Express. Cookies are used between web browsers and servers,
and would only affect your news group reading if you accessed news groups
through a web service, such as Google Groups.

Signature

Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

Rob - 06 Jul 2008 01:20 GMT
Thank you for the information!!!

>>>> Every post I make to newsgroups is being maliciously tracked by a
>>>> certain
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
> and would only affect your news group reading if you accessed news groups
> through a web service, such as Google Groups.
Rob - 06 Jul 2008 18:44 GMT
> Line 8 *may* also uniquely identify you, if Fibernet assigns it statically
> to your account.>

How do I do a search on newsgroup headers? Specifically, how would I search
Line 8 of all posts to find 64.181.89.216?

Another question ......
What is "Fibernet"?

Thanks

>>>> Every post I make to newsgroups is being maliciously tracked by a
>>>> certain
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
> and would only affect your news group reading if you accessed news groups
> through a web service, such as Google Groups.
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 06 Jul 2008 19:23 GMT
You can't search on an IP in OE.

You've been connected to the internet via FiberNet of West Virginia
(wvfibernet.net) when you've posted here.
Signature

~PA Bear

>> Line 8 *may* also uniquely identify you, if Fibernet assigns it
>> statically
[quoted text clipped - 82 lines]
>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
Rob - 06 Jul 2008 19:43 GMT
Thanks!

Can I Google on an IP? If Yes, how?

> You can't search on an IP in OE.
>
[quoted text clipped - 93 lines]
>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 06 Jul 2008 20:23 GMT
Not that I know of, no.

> Thanks!
>
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>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM - 06 Jul 2008 21:08 GMT
> Thanks!
>
> Can I Google on an IP? If Yes, how?

Did you try?
Did it work?

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N. Miller - 06 Jul 2008 22:04 GMT
>>>>> Every post I make to newsgroups is being maliciously tracked by a
>>>>> certain individual. I then receive pornographic email at home. Is
>>>>> there a way to conceal one's identity completely (headers) when
>>>>> posting to a newsgroup using Outlook Express 6.0?

>>>> MS Outlook Express has little to do with what shows up in some header
>>>> lines. While you can control the name and email address, you can't
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>>>> Those are some of the lines I would use to search on. You have control
>>>> over line 2. MSOE controls line 3. Your NNTP provider controls the rest.

>>> So ......
>>>
>>> You say you would search on certain lines in a header ....
>>> Are lines 4 to end unique to me and identify me in all my posts?

>> Line 2 uniquely identifies you in all posts made using MS Outlook Express
>> as you have configured it for posting in this news group.
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>> address; but most do add something in the headers by which a reader can
>> classify a poster to some degree, or other.

>>> I noticed something else this evening .................
>>> I watched as Norton Antivirus scanned my HD tonight. VAV identified whay
>>> it called a "Tracking Cookie". Could this possibly be something this
>>> "character" is using to track my posts to newsgroups?

>> No. There are no cookies used on NNTP servers accessed by news clients,
>> such as MS Outlook Express. Cookies are used between web browsers and
>> servers, and would only affect your news group reading if you accessed
>> news groups through a web service, such as Google Groups.
>> Line 8 *may* also uniquely identify you, if Fibernet assigns it statically
>> to your account.>

> How do I do a search on newsgroup headers? Specifically, how would I search
> Line 8 of all posts to find 64.181.89.216?

Can't be done in MS Outlook Express.

> Another question ......
> What is "Fibernet"?

Owner of your IP address:

| 07/06/08 13:55:08 dns 64.181.89.216
| nslookup 64.181.89.216
| Canonical name: ip-64-181-89-216.elnk.wvfibernet.net
| Addresses:
|   64.181.89.216

And...

| 07/06/08 13:55:14 IP Block 64.181.89.216
| Trying 64.181.89.216 at ARIN
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| # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2008-07-05 19:10
| # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

Finally...

| 07/06/08 14:01:41 whois !NET-64-181-0-0-1@whois.arin.net
|
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| PostalCode: 25301
| Country:    US

Apparently this service:

http://www.wvfibernet.net/

I would guess that they are your ISP.

> Can I Google on an IP? If Yes, how?

You can just plug the IP address into the Google search bar. By itself, the
results could be ambiguous. You can refine the results by combining the
search with other keywords.

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~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

Rob - 07 Jul 2008 01:24 GMT
Thanks once again!!

So now I can google and find a particular poster by his email address, IP or
something else, how could I automatically post a standard reply to every
post he makes in a newsgroup?

>>>>>> Every post I make to newsgroups is being maliciously tracked by a
>>>>>> certain individual. I then receive pornographic email at home. Is
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> results could be ambiguous. You can refine the results by combining the
> search with other keywords.
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 07 Jul 2008 01:44 GMT
Why would you want to SPAM this person?

> Thanks once again!!
>
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>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
N. Miller - 07 Jul 2008 07:14 GMT
> So now I can google and find a particular poster by his email address, IP or
> something else, how could I automatically post a standard reply to every
> post he makes in a newsgroup?

You want to be a stalker? I am thinking that answering your questions was a
foolish thing, now.

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~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

PA Bear [MS MVP] - 07 Jul 2008 18:36 GMT
>> So now I can google and find a particular poster by his email address, IP
>> or something else, how could I automatically post a standard reply to
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> a
> foolish thing, now.

[Norman begins to see the light...]
D. Spencer Hines - 07 Jul 2008 21:28 GMT
Hilarious!

Naïveté Writ Large...

He also didn't realize he was dealing with another PFK.

DSH

>>> So now I can google and find a particular poster by his email address,
>>> IP or something else, how could I automatically post a standard reply
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>
> [Norman begins to see the light...]
N. Miller - 08 Jul 2008 06:54 GMT
> He also didn't realize he was dealing with another PFK.

You, sir, are a fool.

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~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

Rob - 07 Jul 2008 20:43 GMT
Please do not be mistaken!

Someone is automatically posting a standard reply to every post I make in
four newsgroups and I am trying to understand how he is doing it.

Go back to the beginning of this thread.

>> So now I can google and find a particular poster by his email address, IP
>> or
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> a
> foolish thing, now.
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 07 Jul 2008 21:29 GMT
A standard reply to the newsgroup or a standard email reply?  If the former,
what newsgroups?

If you access this and other MS newsgroups using the free MS newsserver
(msnews.microsoft.com), do you still receive these replies?

Setting up Outlook Express to access Microsoft newsgroups
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
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> Please do not be mistaken!
>
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>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
Steve - 08 Jul 2008 17:05 GMT
A standard reply to the newsgroup!

comp.databases-ms-access
microsoft.public.access
microsoft.public.access,gettingstarted
microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign

>A standard reply to the newsgroup or a standard email reply?  If the
>former, what newsgroups?
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>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 09 Jul 2008 00:24 GMT
Are we to assume that "Steve" <nonsense@nonsense.com> and "Rob"
<emasil@email.org> (whose post I replied to) are the same poster?

Are you accessing the microsoft.public.* newsgroups via the MS newssever or
the Earthlink newsserver (which is a mirror for Giganews)?

> A standard reply to the newsgroup!
>
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>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
Steve - 09 Jul 2008 16:32 GMT
See below .................

> Are we to assume that "Steve" <nonsense@nonsense.com> and "Rob"
> <emasil@email.org> (whose post I replied to) are the same poster?

Yes, one and the same! At the beginning of this thread it was suggested to
change my name and email address in my newsgroup account.

> Are you accessing the microsoft.public.* newsgroups via the MS newssever
> or the Earthlink newsserver (which is a mirror for Giganews)?

Earthlink

>> A standard reply to the newsgroup!
>>
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>>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 09 Jul 2008 17:55 GMT
It makes sense to use an invalid or munged email address, yes, but if the
emasil@ address wasn't valid you didn't need to change anything.

A little detective work leads me to believe that the replies you refer to
are by one "StopThisAdvertising" (Arno R?; e.g.,
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign/msg/f4fc55
ce3e6028e9
)
who keeps posting a link to the very interesting page
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html

Other than continuing to change the name & email address you use when
posting (which you've been doing, it would appear, in order to shake this
guy), there's nothing you can do about it except ignore him (or clean up
your act & stop soliciting business in the MS newsgroups...which happens to
be a violation of the Code of Conduct).
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>> Are we to assume that "Steve" <nonsense@nonsense.com> and "Rob"
>> <emasil@email.org> (whose post I replied to) are the same poster?
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>>>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
Steve - 09 Jul 2008 21:23 GMT
Scotland Yard would be proud of you!

Do you have any idea how he is able to quickly find any post I make even
though i change my name and email address when posting ?

It just caught my attention that you are an MVP. How do you contact an
official that oversees that program?

Thanks!!

> It makes sense to use an invalid or munged email address, yes, but if the
> emasil@ address wasn't valid you didn't need to change anything.
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>>>>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>>>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 09 Jul 2008 21:36 GMT
A1. I know, they've told me so (as has MI5).

A2. He must be on to your wiles.

A3. The MVP program?  Why do you ask?

> Scotland Yard would be proud of you!
>
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>>>>>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>>>>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
Steve - 09 Jul 2008 22:26 GMT
I want to inquire about the MVP program. It seems to be a "good old boys"
program, hush, hush! No one seems to want to provide any information about
the program.

> A1. I know, they've told me so (as has MI5).
>
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>>>>>>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>>>>>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
Tom [Pepper] Willett - 09 Jul 2008 22:43 GMT
The information is freely available on the MS web site.

:I want to inquire about the MVP program. It seems to be a "good old boys"
: program, hush, hush! No one seems to want to provide any information about
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: >>> to
: >>> are by one "StopThisAdvertising" (Arno R?; e.g.,

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign/msg/f4fc55
ce3e6028e9
)
: >>> who keeps posting a link to the very interesting page
: >>> http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html
[quoted text clipped - 73 lines]
: >>>>>>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
: >>>>>>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 10 Jul 2008 01:45 GMT
See http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

PS: No, you cannot nominate yourself.

> I want to inquire about the MVP program. It seems to be a "good old boys"
> program, hush, hush! No one seems to want to provide any information about
[quoted text clipped - 105 lines]
>>>>>>>>>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,
>>>>>>>>>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.
D. Spencer Hines - 07 Jul 2008 21:32 GMT
He certainly has your noodle in a tizzy...

Because he's far smarter than you.

DSH

> Please do not be mistaken!
>
> Someone is automatically posting a standard reply to every post I make in
> four newsgroups and I am trying to understand how he is doing it.
>
> Go back to the beginning of this thread.

>>> So now I can google and find a particular poster by his email address,
>>> IP or something else, how could I automatically post a standard reply to
>>> every post he makes in a newsgroup?
>>
>> You want to be a stalker? I am thinking that answering your questions was
>> a foolish thing, now.
Robert Aldwinckle - 07 Jul 2008 06:48 GMT
>> Line 8 *may* also uniquely identify you, if Fibernet assigns it statically
>> to your account.>
>
> How do I do a search on newsgroup headers? Specifically, how would I search
> Line 8 of all posts to find 64.181.89.216?

Extract the messages to  .nws  files and then search the news files.

Since both  WLMail  and  WM  use real  .nws  files already (instead
of .dbx) for their Message Stores you could probably use them directly...

HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---
D. Spencer Hines - 07 Jul 2008 06:52 GMT
Why is a "Real NWS File" so much better than DBX?

DSH

> Since both  WLMail  and  WM  use real  .nws  files already (instead
> of .dbx) for their Message Stores you could probably use them directly...
N. Miller - 07 Jul 2008 07:20 GMT
>> Since both  WLMail  and  WM  use real  .nws  files already (instead
>> of .dbx) for their Message Stores you could probably use them directly...

> Why is a "Real NWS File" so much better than DBX?

A .dbx file is a proprietary MSFT database, which can only be read by MS
Outhouse Exploder. A .nws file is a common text file which can be read by
any common text reader.

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Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.

D. Spencer Hines - 05 Jul 2008 02:43 GMT
Errant Twaddle...

And Codswallop.

Another little PFK who doesn't want the college admissions officers and
employers to be able to trace him on the Internet.

People who hide behind pseudonyms on the Internet get ZERO respect.

'Nuff Said.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
----------------------------------------

> You don't need to know my "real" name; you only need to know if the
> persona
> I am using is consistent; whether consistently good, consistently right,
> consistently wrong, or consistently evil.
D. Spencer Hines - 07 Jul 2008 21:34 GMT
Hilarious!

Naïveté Writ Large...

He also didn't realize he was dealing with another naïve and gullible PFK.

DSH

> N. Miller wrote:

>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 20:24:28 -0400, Rob wrote:

>>> So now I can google and find a particular poster by his email address,
>>> IP or something else, how could I automatically post a standard reply
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>
> [Norman begins to see the light...]
 
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