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any one a good fast linux version using kdesktop that's looks good and free that works on virtual pc 2007, i tryed a bunch but they don't work properly the main problem is setting up the graphic in linux to use 32 bit driver instead of 24bit which i'm not sure how to do, so it doesn't help me much to have something i have to do complicated setting up. at a good one called simplymepis 32 but the sound card wasn't recognised and got bored on it, the other one i love is linux xp which is a copy of windows xp on the linux os, but it's really inbetween of linux and windows, i would like something that is like mandriva(which the video driver is 24 bit) completly linux to help me learn how to work it. thanks for your help  SignatureLicensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone any one know a good.... sorry was thinking too fast SignatureLicensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone > any one a good fast linux version using kdesktop that's looks good and > free that works on virtual pc 2007, i tryed a bunch but they don't work [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > bit) completly linux to help me learn how to work it. > thanks for your help > any one a good fast linux version using kdesktop that's looks good and > free that works on virtual pc 2007, i tryed a bunch but they don't work > properly To get round the graphics colour depth, you need a "text-only" install of the Linux distro - for Ubuntu, that's the "alternate" CD - and then you can edit the X config file during installation. However, there is more fundamental problem than that. All (AFAIK) modern Linux distros contain a serious bug related to PS/2 mice, which is what Virtual PC emulates... There are a couple of workarounds, but they don't really work. I've given up with Linux on VPC because of this, and now use VMWare for all my Linux work: http://www.tanguay.info/web/tutorial.php?idCode=installUbuntuOnVmware§ionIdC ode=downloadVMwareWorkstationTrial SignatureMark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net what you said about the virtual pc and ps2 devices, would that be a problem still if i'm not using ps2, i have a built in keyboard for laptop and a touchpad plus a usb mouse. i will try ubantu again, i just hope it's not too much of a hastle..... or hustle lol jk SignatureLicensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone > >> any one a good fast linux version using kdesktop that's looks good and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > all my Linux work: > http://www.tanguay.info/web/tutorial.php?idCode=installUbuntuOnVmware§ionIdC ode=downloadVMwareWorkstationTrial > what you said about the virtual pc and ps2 devices, would that be a > problem still if i'm not using ps2, i have a built in keyboard for laptop > and a touchpad plus a usb mouse. Like I said, Virtual PC emulates a PS/2 mouse... Your host's physical mouse, like all the rest of your host's physical hardware (apart from its processor), is totally irrelevant... SignatureMark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net DOH, frikin (did i say that i meant chickin lol jk) microsoft, but you said there was possibly a way, how? is it a setting a file what is the workaround, i'm willing to try it, all i will lose is my time. SignatureLicensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone > >> what you said about the virtual pc and ps2 devices, would that be a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Your host's physical mouse, like all the rest of your host's physical > hardware (apart from its processor), is totally irrelevant... >DOH, frikin (did i say that i meant chickin lol jk) microsoft, but you said >there was possibly a way, how? is it a setting a file what is the >workaround, i'm willing to try it, all i will lose is my time. The "way" is to add kernel parameters to the linux kernel when installing and running it. There are such switches for handling the keyboard/mouse problems. google and I think you will find them. For Fedora 7 I used this at the end of the kernel line: vesa i8042.nolop psmouse.proto=imps clock=pit vga=771 Also check out ng gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general and search the thread titled "Successful install of Fedora7 in VPC2007 guest" to see how it is done. Bo Berglund alright there was no way to chose text when booting, so i choosed vga=771 comand hopefully it will help i'm guessing it didn't cuz now the virtualpc is going numlock on then off then on then off constently SignatureLicensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone > DOH, frikin (did i say that i meant chickin lol jk) microsoft, but you > said [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> Your host's physical mouse, like all the rest of your host's physical >> hardware (apart from its processor), is totally irrelevant... ok using instal with driver update didn't work, neither did start with safe display i think i will try ferora, i just hope it has a cool look like mandriva or ubantu SignatureLicensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone > DOH, frikin (did i say that i meant chickin lol jk) microsoft, but you > said [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> Your host's physical mouse, like all the rest of your host's physical >> hardware (apart from its processor), is totally irrelevant... >DOH, frikin (did i say that i meant chickin lol jk) microsoft, but you said >there was possibly a way, how? is it a setting a file what is the >workaround, i'm willing to try it, all i will lose is my time. Again, its a bug with Linux, not Microsoft. If you're so anti-Microsoft, then stop using VPC. There are other VM solutions. SignatureCheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ I do not work for Microsoft. no i was saying frikin microsoft because they use ps2 emulation instead of usb, but i guess they used ps2 for compatibility so i give them that SignatureLicensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone > >>DOH, frikin (did i say that i meant chickin lol jk) microsoft, but you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Again, its a bug with Linux, not Microsoft. If you're so > anti-Microsoft, then stop using VPC. There are other VM solutions. ---> >> DOH, frikin (did i say that i meant chickin lol jk) microsoft, but you said >> there was possibly a way, how? is it a setting a file what is the >> workaround, i'm willing to try it, all i will lose is my time. > > Again, its a bug with Linux, not Microsoft. If you're so > anti-Microsoft, then stop using VPC. There are other VM solutions. This is a "computer & sound system tech"? I think ----- not. GP humm don't judge me until you know me. first of all you can't talk about the sound tech because you never seen what i do for a living, i'm a dj, and built my speaker and the sound system from scratch, yes i said correctly speakers from scratch and sound system also. i built the speaker box to provide wanderfull sound which is why my dj business sky rocketed and as a matter of fact i'm djing for a wedding this saturday at 5:00 as for the computer tech part i've been fixing computers since i was 10 years old, all my friends come to me to fix it, the only reason why i ask for advice or info everyone and awhile is because my major is hardware, not software so i'm not completly familiar with virtualpc yet, nor am i with linux i'm actually a newbie with linux, a novice with virtualpc, so before you go insulting me someone you never meet, you better get your act straight and ask before you talk. SignatureLicensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone > ---> >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > GP > you never seen what i do for a living, i'm a dj, You were a "Translator French - English - Creole" until very recently... SignatureMark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net true but i always have been a dj translator i was doing that to help people out it wasn't my job SignatureLicensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone > >> you never seen what i do for a living, i'm a dj, > > You were a "Translator French - English - Creole" until very recently... and by the way i'm guessing some of you don't even know what creole is.? but i don't crack about it to you guys for typing it without knowing what it is, so why don't you stop picking on me. it's getting slightly irritating very very slightly, the translator part i understood i may not be the best ranslator but i get the job done, but as for dj, i'll rock your pants until ac electricity stops being provided SignatureLicensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone > true but i always have been a dj translator i was doing that to help > people out it wasn't my job > >>> you never seen what i do for a living, i'm a dj, >> >> You were a "Translator French - English - Creole" until very recently... ---> > and by the way i'm guessing some of you don't even know what creole is.? > but i don't crack about it to you guys for typing it without knowing > what it is, so why don't you stop picking on me. it's getting slightly > irritating very very slightly, the translator part i understood i may > not be the best ranslator but i get the job done, but as for dj, i'll > rock your pants until ac electricity stops being provided Since I settled in Barataria Bay with John Lafitte in a previous life I know exactly what a Creole is. I think you will find that if you take a less adversarial approach, use whole sentences with proper capitalization, and lose the text messaging vernacular you would do much better. We would be glad to help you if we can. Since we are comparing length here, I have been in every field of electronics, computers, and radio/TV servicing since the late 1950's. I have built many a speaker cabinet under the tutoring of Leonard Scott who went on to pioneer the bass-reflex system for audiophiles. Until the mid to late '60s my Hi-Fi and stereo construction was mainly using things called "tubes" (or "valves" ans they are known in the U.K.). If you have worked with them you know how temperamental they can be. But I digress. As I said before, we are here to help. Getting in our face and changing your username when opposition rears it's ugly head will only serve to alienate you from this group. Jump in, join up, and let us all get along. GP "Jump in, join up, and let us all get along." that's what i want but don't try to compain to me about my typing or about how you guys think i'm a bad translator or that i know nothing about computer and sound because that is only when i get into people face's especially if they don't know me. i always a very peaceable guy, but push me too far and i will fall, then whoever pushed me is going down. oh by the way if i type like text messaging is that's what i always do on the phone i stop using full sentences and comma's and period when i graduated fromhigh school in 2002. and i like it much better this way too. anyway if you guys wants to stop the drama i'm more than willing to stop SignatureLicensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone > ---> >> and by the way i'm guessing some of you don't even know what creole is.? [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > GP ---> > "Jump in, join up, and let us all get along." > that's what i want but don't try to compain to me about my typing or [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > better this way too. anyway if you guys wants to stop the drama i'm more > than willing to stop The following link is meant as a guide for asking question on any professional forum. You don't have to look at it, but the quote below is straight from it. I am NOT trying to agitate you in any way; just pointing out that long, lowercase paragraphs are very difficult to read, much less understand what is being said. They are almost as bad as uppercase typing which is considered rude. If I were to come upon an entire paragraph consisting of, apparently, one long lowercase sentence, then I would simply close the posting and move on. Information Technology is always in search of good talent and your hardware background could be a great help as you move up in this field. Learning from one's mistakes is a gift to be treasured. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Quote: - Write in a clear language, avoiding spelling mistakes or grammatical errors. Don't type IN ALL CAPS, which in most cases is read as shouting and considered rude. Try to express yourself in a clear language, and by all means - do try to use punctuation marks in the right place. End quote ---> >> you never seen what i do for a living, i'm a dj, > > You were a "Translator French - English - Creole" until very recently... Yep. >what you said about the virtual pc and ps2 devices, would that be a problem >still if i'm not using ps2, i have a built in keyboard for laptop and a >touchpad plus a usb mouse. What you have in your host system does not matter. The mouse and keyboards are presented to the guest as PS/2 devices by the emulation of VPC2007. This cannot be changed. Bo Berglund I'd like to suggest innotek VirtualBox. It's runs nicely on normal desktop machines and laptops, and will host Linux very well. I use MS VPC 2007 to host all the Windows and Dos variants, and innotek VirtualBox for all the Linuxes. The two will co-exist peacefully, but you can't use hardware virtualisation on both at the same time. SteveT > I'd like to suggest innotek VirtualBox. Last time I looked at this, it was rubbish - is the new version a significant improvement...? SignatureMark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net >> I'd like to suggest innotek VirtualBox. > >Last time I looked at this, it was rubbish - is the new version a >significant improvement...? Yes, 1.5.0 now runs on x64 hosts. The networking still needs some work, but it's the closest thing to a successor to VPC we'll probably see.( Connectix and Innotek had a licensing deal, Innotek made the OS/2 version of VPC and the OS/2 additions for VPC) SignatureCheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ I do not work for Microsoft. >>Last time I looked at this, it was rubbish - is the new version a >>significant improvement...? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > licensing deal, Innotek made the OS/2 version of VPC and the OS/2 > additions for VPC) Hmm - OK then, sounds like it's worth another look... Thanks. SignatureMark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net So far the best install I have found for Virtual PC 2007 and Linux is based on the new Ubuntu 7.1 distro. A blog by Arcane Code at http://arcanecode.wordpress.com/2007/10/18/installing-ubuntu-710-under-virtual-p c-2007/ goes through the install step by step and if you follow it step by step it works like a charm. Just make sure you are patient because it doesn't always work the first time and it is slow. But once it's installed it does work. I'm not a big Linux fan or user but you have to be open minded and try other things. This version looks good and has OpenOffice 2.3 included. It's installed on a notebook with a 2.4Ghz Dual Core Duo, 4GB RAM and a 24GB variable sized partition with a 1920x1200 display resolution - it's not speedy but workable. I'm working through trying to get the wireless network working and I have to say it's not for someone who doesn't know computers. Someday soon I'll try it on a desktop with a faster hard drive and see how that goes. Big thing to make sure you do is the "i8042.noloop" addition to thye startup. The only issue so far is when I type sometimes the keys seem to "stick" and I get the same letter typed multiple times. |
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