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Windows Forum / Virtual PC / October 2007Microsoft posts updated Additions for Linux, v2.0
Virtual Machine Additions for Linux http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=bf12642f-77dc-4d45-ae4e -e1b05e0a2674&displaylang=en&tm Version: 2.0 Date Published: 10/22/2007 Language: English Download Size: 2.9 MB Overview Virtual Machine Additions for Linux are designed to improve the usability and interoperability of running qualified Linux operating systems as guests or virtual machines of Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1. Now with support for SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 Microsoft is committed to testing and supporting many third-party operating systems for use as guest operating systems on Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 virtual machines. To help make sure that you have a favorable experience when you run third-party guest operating systems in Virtual Server 2005, Microsoft Product Support Services (PSS) has created a product support model for these third-party guest operating systems. This support model is consistent with the support model that is used for Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1. Product support for the Virtual Machine Additions will be provided through the normal support channels available for Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1. Virtual Machine Additions information To improve the interoperability between virtual machines running Linux guest operating systems and Virtual Server 2005 R2, Virtual Machine Additions are available for Linux guest operating systems. You can install these Virtual Machine Additions components in your Linux guest operating systems to improve the following operating system capabilities: * Guest and host synchronization for time synchronization, for heartbeat generation, and for coordinated shutdown operations * Mouse driver * Display driver * SCSI hard disk emulation Note: The SCSI hard disk Virtual Machine Additions component requires Virtual Server 2005 R2 Service Pack 1 (SP1). Qualified Linux guests: Enterprise distributions * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 2.1 (update 6) * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 (update 6) * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 * SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 9 * SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 Standard distributions * Red Hat Linux 7.3 * Red Hat Linux 9.0 * SuSE Linux 9.2 * SuSE Linux 9.3 * SuSE Linux 10.0 >Virtual Machine Additions for Linux >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=bf12642f-77dc-4 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Language: English >Download Size: 2.9 MB Thanks. I see that the Virtual Server TechCenter page has been amended away from Microsoft Connect towards Microsoft Downloads. Hopefully someone will update the Microsoft Connect site, at least putting something in the "news" so that people know 1.2 is no longer the latest. Regards  SignatureDave English Senior Software & Systems Engineer Internet Platform Development, Thus plc Really good news. But still no deb packages to install it on some "unsupported" distribution like Debian. And, on the "supported" RHEL still the kernel message "vmadd: license type "proprietary" taints kernel". Why proprietary? Why not opensource the Additions? Just my 0.02 ?... > Really good news. But still no deb packages to install it on some > "unsupported" distribution like Debian. Indeed. No Ubuntu either... Microsoft claim to be "committed to testing and supporting many third-party operating systems for use as guest operating systems on Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 virtual machines" - so far we have two: Red Hat and SuSE... And still no official support for the Additions in VPC, though (for the most part) they do actually work... SignatureMark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net > Indeed. No Ubuntu either... Well, Ubuntu is Debian. > so far we have two: Red Hat and SuSE... Nope! We also have W2K, W2K3, WXP etc. ;)) > And still no official support for the Additions in VPC, though (for the most > part) they do actually work... Well, I don't use VPC: for the desktop virtualization I'm using a well- known product from Palo Alto ;) A real problem is a virtualized Adaptec SCSI controller and a headache with installing of the VMAdd-driver for it. That's why I use IDE drives on Linux VMs. BTW: Have you tried to install Ubuntu 7.10 server on VS? It starts, though it's not able to find a... CDROM?!? And Fedora 7 doesn't start at all. >> Indeed. No Ubuntu either... > > Well, Ubuntu is Debian. You know what I mean...:-) http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download http://www.debian.org/distrib/ftplist >> so far we have two: Red Hat and SuSE... > > Nope! We also have W2K, W2K3, WXP etc. ;)) Not exactly "third-party", though - I guess OS/2 brings the total to three... >> And still no official support for the Additions in VPC, though (for the >> most >> part) they do actually work... > BTW: Have you tried to install Ubuntu 7.10 server on VS? It starts, > though it's not able to find a... CDROM?!? And Fedora 7 doesn't start > at all. I gave up with Linux on VPC / VS - too hard... I now do all my Linux work on VMWare... I haven't tried 7.10 yet - that's penciled in for the weekend... SignatureMark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net > I gave up with Linux on VPC / VS - too hard... Mark, I'm curious as to what problems you're having. Other than reconfiguring the video and adding the fix for the mouse I am having no problems with Edubuntu 7.04 or 7.10. I have also tried Fedora and Suse before and had good luck with them also. I haven't tried the last couple of versions of Fedora or Suse so there may be issues there. >> I gave up with Linux on VPC / VS - too hard... > > Mark, I'm curious as to what problems you're having. Other than > reconfiguring the video and adding the fix for the mouse Perhaps I was a little harsh by saying "too hard" and should have said "haven't got time"... :-) > I am having no problems with Edubuntu 7.04 or 7.10. I've never tried Edubuntu, only Ubuntu... > I have also tried Fedora and Suse before and had good luck with them also. SuSE 10 worked pretty well under VPC, but I just can't get 10.2 to install at all... SignatureMark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net >>> I gave up with Linux on VPC / VS - too hard... >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Perhaps I was a little harsh by saying "too hard" and should have said > "haven't got time"... :-) Ok, I definately undersatnd that. >> I am having no problems with Edubuntu 7.04 or 7.10. > > I've never tried Edubuntu, only Ubuntu... Edubuntu & Ubuntu are basically the same other than Edubuntu has a lot of programs for K thru 12 bundled with it and has a lot of support for thin clients.. >> I have also tried Fedora and Suse before and had good luck with them >> also. > > SuSE 10 worked pretty well under VPC, but I just can't get 10.2 to install > at all... I think Suse 9.something was the last version of Suse I tried. I have a friend that says he can't get Fedora 7 to install but I haven't tried it. Most of my free time (ha-ha) is spent trying to get a single sign-on to Active Directory to work. >I think Suse 9.something was the last version of Suse I tried. I have a >friend that >says he can't get Fedora 7 to install but I haven't tried it. Most of my Fedora 7 works all right. It is just a pain installing. But I described how to do it in a thread here about a month or so ago. The thread subject was: "Fedora7 successful install in VPC2007", you can search for it and get the details. I also put my procedure on the web here: http://web1.vattnet.com/cvstips/fedora/Fedora7InVPC2007.html Maybe it can help someone else... Have you tried using the shell scripts to install the VM Additions? Cheers, Benjamin Armstrong ============================ Windows Virtualization Program Manager Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/Virtual_PC_Guy Book: http://tinyurl.com/ysxcbm This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. You assume all risk for your use. > Really good news. But still no deb packages to install it on some > "unsupported" distribution like Debian. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Just my 0.02 €... The install.sh shell script uses rpm to install the .rpm packages. For distributions such as Debian and Ubuntu, rpm is not available. YMMV, but there is a package tool named alien which converts .rpm packages to .deb packages. You can then use apt-get to install the virtual machine additions package(s) manually. Without a package format your distribution can understand and install, you're out of luck for now. I have not personally attempted to convert the .rpm packages to .deb packages via alien myself, so I cannot vouch for its success. "sudo apt-get install alien" will install the utility on your system. Jed > Have you tried using the shell scripts to install the VM Additions? > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > > Just my 0.02 €... @Ben: Can we hope that MS will opensource the Additions? @Jed: alien is a good thing, but IMHO it will not be able to convert the "main" rpm, because it contains a module which must be inserted into kernel. Maybe it's worth the effort to decompress the rpms; extract the module and try to insmod it? > @Ben: Can we hope that MS will opensource the Additions? I second this!! A subsiduary of EMC, you may have heard of, has open-sourced their additions. Perfect opportunity for Redmond to support Linux the same way especially in light of WSV. I would love for Linux to be enlightened from day one of Windows Server 2008's release. Of course, Steve Ballmer might not agree. The shell scripts do not use RPM as far as I am aware. Have you tried using them? Cheers, Benjamin Armstrong ============================ Windows Virtualization Program Manager Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/Virtual_PC_Guy Book: http://tinyurl.com/ysxcbm This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. You assume all risk for your use. > The install.sh shell script uses rpm to install the .rpm packages. For > distributions such as Debian and Ubuntu, rpm is not available. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>> >>> Just my 0.02 €... "Benjamin Armstrong [MSFT]" <benarm@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message > The shell scripts do not use RPM as far as I am aware. Have you tried > using them? The install.sh script does use RPM to install the Virtual Additions. It just checks the version and then installs one of the rpm packages depending on what version it thinks you are running. --Jeffrey I second this. We really need a working deb, it is really a big portion of linux. It has been so long, and I tried to do alien rpm to deb with no luck- we completely don't know how the installation is done so I don't think we could find out ourselve. The result is Virtual PC is still a Windows only VM. (I really wonder if there are anyone still using OS/2) Thats really pointless... if MS doesn't want to do it, at least they should open the source so the community could do it. > "Benjamin Armstrong [MSFT]" <benarm@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > The shell scripts do not use RPM as far as I am aware. Have you tried [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > --Jeffrey |
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