Windows Forum / Virtual PC / December 2007
mouse not working properly, can't set up XP
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curiousgeorge - 26 Dec 2007 15:08 GMT Mouse is either jumping all over the place or non existant (alt brings it back) I cannot click on radio buttons to finish installing XP, I was doing it with 'Tab' 'Enter' but now I am at the registration page and it won't work with tab, enter, can't seem to get past it and anyway its pointless to set it up then not be able to use the mouse. I am using Vista Business. Infomation keeps telling me to install additions but require that you have the OS working, thats a big help.
Colin Barnhorst - 26 Dec 2007 15:21 GMT What is the host computer?
> Mouse is either jumping all over the place or non existant (alt brings it > back) I cannot click on radio buttons to finish installing XP, I was doing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I am using Vista Business. Infomation keeps telling me to install > additions but require that you have the OS working, thats a big help. curiousgeorge - 26 Dec 2007 15:40 GMT New Dual Core 2gig memory
> What is the host computer? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> I am using Vista Business. Infomation keeps telling me to install >> additions but require that you have the OS working, thats a big help. Colin Barnhorst - 26 Dec 2007 15:47 GMT Is it desktop or laptop? What make and model? Please, a few specifics.
If it is a laptop, have you run the laptop hotfix in the Program Files\Microsoft Virtual PC folder?
> New Dual Core 2gig memory > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >>> I am using Vista Business. Infomation keeps telling me to install >>> additions but require that you have the OS working, thats a big help. curiousgeorge - 26 Dec 2007 15:54 GMT Sorry, its a desktop- Dell Inspiron 531
> Is it desktop or laptop? What make and model? Please, a few specifics. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>>> I am using Vista Business. Infomation keeps telling me to install >>>> additions but require that you have the OS working, thats a big help. Colin Barnhorst - 26 Dec 2007 16:31 GMT What kind of keyboard? Wireless?
> Sorry, its a desktop- Dell Inspiron 531 > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>>>> I am using Vista Business. Infomation keeps telling me to install >>>>> additions but require that you have the OS working, thats a big help. curiousgeorge - 26 Dec 2007 16:48 GMT No Colin, not a wireless keyboard, your basic cheap OEM keyboard, mouse was optical wireless but I thought that was the problem so i hooked back up the wired mouse. Went into XP control panel using keyboard (what a total pain) and found that the xp setup for mouse is PS2, would be part of the problem? Another question - if the 'additions' needed to be added for it to work how come on my console under 'actions' it does not have this --
"On the Action menu of the virtual machine, click Install or Update Virtual Machine Additions".
there is no Install OR Update ability or box or whatever.
....this is driving me nuts, I know its something simple but I am at a loss as to how to correct it and I have forgotten all I used to know about the bad old 'before mouse days'.
> What kind of keyboard? Wireless? > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >>>>>> I am using Vista Business. Infomation keeps telling me to install >>>>>> additions but require that you have the OS working, thats a big help. Geoff - 26 Dec 2007 17:25 GMT Suggest that you hit (right alt) + enter - so you can see xp with mouse.
Then use alt key to allow moving the mouse onto the guest - then install add ons
CGT
curiousgeorge - 26 Dec 2007 17:36 GMT trust me I've tried that, the minute you click on the guest to do anything mouse disappears no matter what you do, XP is loading great, just isn't accessing or seeing mouse.
I'm sorry for my ignorance but install add-on's where? The console is not showing any option to install or update & XP is showing no evidence that it knows its on a virtual disk.
> Suggest that you hit (right alt) + enter - so you can see xp with mouse. > > Then use alt key to allow moving the mouse onto the guest - then install > add ons > > CGT curiousgeorge - 26 Dec 2007 17:57 GMT evidently you have to have XP open to access the Actions install.........I was trying everything BUT that, now I have to figure out how to actually install old VISTA unfriendly programs in it, ah well.........
> trust me I've tried that, the minute you click on the guest to do anything > mouse disappears no matter what you do, XP is loading great, just isn't [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> CGT Bo Berglund - 26 Dec 2007 22:12 GMT >evidently you have to have XP open to access the Actions install.........I >was trying everything BUT that, now I have to figure out how to actually >install old VISTA unfriendly programs in it, ah well......... The same way you would install any old XP program into XP: - Insert the CD and click OK on the autorun windows that appears or - Run the Setup.exe or Install.exe on the CD or in the folder you downloaded it into.
Your virtual machine behaves *exactly* like a physical computer running XP. Stop thinking of it as a part of your Vista host PC, it is not...
Bo Berglund
Geoff - 26 Dec 2007 17:58 GMT OK, when you hit alt enter you should see a menu bar - if not your guest is taking entire screen -underneath is the host with mouse - you will have to resize the guest so you can see the menu bar - might need short cut keys to do this.- dont have them on hand - search ?
dont give up !
CGT
> trust me I've tried that, the minute you click on the guest to do anything > mouse disappears no matter what you do, XP is loading great, just isn't [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> CGT curiousgeorge - 26 Dec 2007 18:17 GMT Thank you so much for your help, it WAS taking entire screen and locking up everything, now that additions is installed mouse is working, but if you would be so kind to tell me how to do i get programs (like paint shop proX) to install on guest and guest only. Where do I put the install programs so that XP guest sees them and I can install them? I apologise if this is the stupid question of the year...........
> OK, when you hit alt enter you should see a menu bar - if not your guest > is taking entire screen -underneath is the host with mouse - you will [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >>> >>> CGT Mark Rae [MVP] - 26 Dec 2007 18:28 GMT > Thank you so much for your help, it WAS taking entire screen and locking > up everything, now that additions is installed mouse is working, but if > you would be so kind to tell me how to do i get programs (like paint shop > proX) to install on guest and guest only. Where do I put the install > programs so that XP guest sees them and I can install them? > I apologise if this is the stupid question of the year........... All of your problems will go away as soon as you stop thinking that a virtual machine is not a real machine...
How would you install <insert application> on a physical machine? Well, you could download it from the web, you could insert the installation media and run setup etc...
Exactly the same with a virtual machine...
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curiousgeorge - 26 Dec 2007 22:37 GMT Mark, I'm sorry but its NOT the same, I'll figure it out but the files and folders I see on the guest are WHERE on the host? You have to really dumb it down for the likes of me. I'm trying to take a .exe from the host and put it on the guest, or at least somewhere the guest can see it and I can open it.........the CD will work just fine (thanks Colin) to do that but as for the rest (documents, etc) I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around just where the frack they are.
....ah well I'm off to figure it out, thanks MUCH for your time.
>> Thank you so much for your help, it WAS taking entire screen and locking >> up everything, now that additions is installed mouse is working, but if [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Exactly the same with a virtual machine... Mark Rae [MVP] - 26 Dec 2007 23:01 GMT > Mark, I'm sorry but its NOT the same, It really is, and there's no need to apologise...
When you install software on a virtual machine, it has not the slightest idea that it's not being installed on a physical machine, because it doesn't need to...
> I'll figure it out but the files and folders I see on the guest are WHERE > on the host? They're in the virtual hard disk file...
> You have to really dumb it down for the likes of me. I'm trying to take a > .exe from the host and put it on the guest, or at least somewhere the > guest can see it and I can open it......... Like I said, forget that one of the machines is a virtual machine.
Let's suppose that you have two physical machines, machine A and machine B. On machine A is an executable that you want machine B to access - how would you do it...?
> but as for the rest (documents, etc) I'm having a hard time wrapping my > head around just where the frack they are. It's really just simple networking...
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Colin Barnhorst - 26 Dec 2007 18:31 GMT Assuming you are installing from cd, you insert the cd in the host's drive. If the virtual machine is in focus (the active window) it should just capture the cd all by itself so click on the virtual machine and then insert the cd in the host's cd drive. If you get an autoplay window on the host instead, cancel it and then capture the host's cd drive with the guest's cd menu.
You get the menu by right clicking on the cd icon in the tray on the lower left of the virtual machine's window. There must be media in the host's drive for the drive letter to show up in the guest's list of drives you can capture. Once you capture the drive the cd should autoplay.
As for the Install or Update additions item on the Action menu, it will install the adds if not already installed and update if adds have previously been installed. The installer knows not to overwrite files that are newer than the ones you are installing. It is all automatic.
> Thank you so much for your help, it WAS taking entire screen and locking > up everything, now that additions is installed mouse is working, but if [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >>>> >>>> CGT curiousgeorge - 26 Dec 2007 22:29 GMT thank you so much, I clicked on "capture' earlier but was nervous about it interferring with the host. Then I saw it in the files.
You are great at explaining things and I so appreciate it.
> Assuming you are installing from cd, you insert the cd in the host's > drive. If the virtual machine is in focus (the active window) it should [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >>>>> >>>>> CGT Colin Barnhorst - 26 Dec 2007 23:46 GMT You're welcome.
> thank you so much, I clicked on "capture' earlier but was nervous about it > interferring with the host. Then I saw it in the files. [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >>>>>> >>>>>> CGT curiousgeorge - 26 Dec 2007 15:43 GMT I got XP to load but mouse is dead as a doornail, now it takes up the entire screen and I have to unhook it with task manager to use the mouse for Vista
> What is the host computer? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> I am using Vista Business. Infomation keeps telling me to install >> additions but require that you have the OS working, thats a big help.
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