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Deo Galvano - 24 May 2008 20:25 GMT
As newby, I installed VPC 2007 on XP SP2 and I installed XP from a self-made
slipstreamed CD (iso-file). After the setup was complete, XP was running fine
and I could see all my physical hard drives.
I don't know if this is relevant, but after installing SP3 on my host
machine, I don't see my physical drives anymore. Where are they?
Deo Galvano - 24 May 2008 21:18 GMT
Meanwhile, I found a work-around. I attached the hard drives with the option
"shared folders". But this brings up a new problem: In the VPC the DVD-rom is
drive D, where on the physical machine drive D is actual a hard drive.

> As newby, I installed VPC 2007 on XP SP2 and I installed XP from a self-made
> slipstreamed CD (iso-file). After the setup was complete, XP was running fine
> and I could see all my physical hard drives.
> I don't know if this is relevant, but after installing SP3 on my host
> machine, I don't see my physical drives anymore. Where are they?
Colin Barnhorst - 26 May 2008 01:15 GMT
Doesn't matter what letter is assigned to a host's drives.  VPC cannot use
them directly anyway.  You have to link the emulated optical drive in the vm
to your physical optical drive by selecting in the drop-down menu on the
vm's drive.

> Meanwhile, I found a work-around. I attached the hard drives with the
> option
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>> I don't know if this is relevant, but after installing SP3 on my host
>> machine, I don't see my physical drives anymore. Where are they?
Bo Berglund - 24 May 2008 21:53 GMT
>As newby, I installed VPC 2007 on XP SP2 and I installed XP from a self-made
>slipstreamed CD (iso-file). After the setup was complete, XP was running fine
>and I could see all my physical hard drives.
>I don't know if this is relevant, but after installing SP3 on my host
>machine, I don't see my physical drives anymore. Where are they?

I belive you should back out SP3. Lots of reports of problems with
that service pack....
Deo Galvano - 24 May 2008 22:14 GMT
Maybe I was not correct in describing the system:
Physical machine = XP SP3;
VPC 2007, XP SP2

When, on the physical machine, SP2 was active, I installed VPC 2007 and I
saw in VPC all my hard drives. Now, with SP3 on the physical machine, I see
the hard drives on the physical machine, but I don't see them in the VPC.

> >As newby, I installed VPC 2007 on XP SP2 and I installed XP from a self-made
> >slipstreamed CD (iso-file). After the setup was complete, XP was running fine
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I belive you should back out SP3. Lots of reports of problems with
> that service pack....
Bo Berglund - 25 May 2008 07:11 GMT
>> >As newby, I installed VPC 2007 on XP SP2 and I installed XP from a self-made
>> >slipstreamed CD (iso-file). After the setup was complete, XP was running fine
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>saw in VPC all my hard drives. Now, with SP3 on the physical machine, I see
>the hard drives on the physical machine, but I don't see them in the VPC.

Exactly, SP3 on the host creates problems in the networking system,
which you see on your guests.
If you don't like to do tha uninstall of S3 then you have to continue
working on finding cures for the stuff SP3 did to your host.
You could start looking in the Windows Firewall area...

By the way, what do you mean when you say "I could see all my physical
hard drives"??? From where can you see which drives and through which
viewing utility?
Bo Berglund - 25 May 2008 07:33 GMT
>Maybe I was not correct in describing the system:
>Physical machine = XP SP3;
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>saw in VPC all my hard drives. Now, with SP3 on the physical machine, I see
>the hard drives on the physical machine, but I don't see them in the VPC.

There is one thing additionally you can do instead of removing XP SP3:
Install VPC2007 SP1, it has support for XP SP3 as host:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=28c97d22-6eb8-4a09-a7f7
-f6c7a1f000b5&displaylang=en

I don't know if it helps your particular problem, but worth a try.
Deo Galvano - 25 May 2008 11:35 GMT
> >Maybe I was not correct in describing the system:
> >Physical machine = XP SP3;
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=28c97d22-6eb8-4a09-a7f7
-f6c7a1f000b5&displaylang=en

> I don't know if it helps your particular problem, but worth a try.

Thank you for your answer. I installed VPC SP1, but this has not the desired
result. Maybe XP SP3 is also required on VPC? I'll give it a try.
Bo Berglund - 25 May 2008 19:18 GMT
>> >Maybe I was not correct in describing the system:
>> >Physical machine = XP SP3;
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>Thank you for your answer. I installed VPC SP1, but this has not the desired
>result. Maybe XP SP3 is also required on VPC? I'll give it a try.

I haven't upgraded VPC2007 myself and I have not installed XP SP3
either so I cannot talk from first-hand experience...
Again, what do you mean with "I see the hard drives"?? Where do you
have this problem (host or guest) and in which context (which viewer
are you using)???
I personally cannot really relate to "seeing a hard drive" except in
the Windows Explorer views and that is *always* the local hard disk
being "visible"...

Bo Berglund
Deo Galvano - 25 May 2008 21:01 GMT
> >> >Maybe I was not correct in describing the system:
> >> >Physical machine = XP SP3;
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Bo Berglund

Sorry I was incomplete with my answer.
What I mean is this: after installing VPC for the first time and after
installing XP in VPC, I opened Windows Explorer.
In Windows explorer I saw "This Computer" and under "this computer" I saw
all my physical harddrives:

- This computer
  + 3,5 inch disk station (A:)
  + C:
  + D:
  + E:
  + F:
  ......
  + DVD-rw-station (J:)

etc.

Now I only see the C: and D: where D: is the DVD-rw.

I hope this makes it clear to you. I don't know how to describe it in an
other way. My English is not that good :(
Colin Barnhorst - 26 May 2008 01:19 GMT
You were looking at the host's Windows Explorer.  The XP in the vm cannot
see what you describe unless you added two more virtual hard drives to it
and then the lettering still would not be referring to the drives on the
host.  A vm cannot see the host's file system.  The host and guest are
separate computers.

>> >> >Maybe I was not correct in describing the system:
>> >> >Physical machine = XP SP3;
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> I hope this makes it clear to you. I don't know how to describe it in an
> other way. My English is not that good :(
Deo Galvano - 27 May 2008 20:49 GMT
You're probably right, Colin. Same answer from Bo Berglund. It's the first
time for me using VPC and I think I mixed up two things. Sorry you for
spending your valuable time to a newbie.

> You were looking at the host's Windows Explorer.  The XP in the vm cannot
> see what you describe unless you added two more virtual hard drives to it
> and then the lettering still would not be referring to the drives on the
> host.  A vm cannot see the host's file system.  The host and guest are
> separate computers.

8<

> > Sorry I was incomplete with my answer.
> > What I mean is this: after installing VPC for the first time and after
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> > I hope this makes it clear to you. I don't know how to describe it in an
> > other way. My English is not that good :(
Colin Barnhorst - 28 May 2008 18:20 GMT
We were all newbies some time.  No prob.

> You're probably right, Colin. Same answer from Bo Berglund. It's the first
> time for me using VPC and I think I mixed up two things. Sorry you for
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>> > an
>> > other way. My English is not that good :(
Bo Berglund - 26 May 2008 05:31 GMT
>> Again, what do you mean with "I see the hard drives"?? Where do you
>> have this problem (host or guest) and in which context (which viewer
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>What I mean is this: after installing VPC for the first time and after
>installing XP in VPC, I opened Windows Explorer.

Which Windows Explorer? The one on your host system or the one on your
guest system (inside the virtual machine)???

>In Windows explorer I saw "This Computer" and under "this computer" I saw
>all my physical harddrives:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>   ......
>   + DVD-rw-station (J:)

This looks like Windows Explorer on your *host* system and is
completely normal.

>Now I only see the C: and D: where D: is the DVD-rw.

This looks like Windows Explorer *inside* the guest system and is
completely normal.
So far no error.
What is your problem?

Note that Windows Explorer on either the host or guest will only show
you the drive resources of *that particular* system.
You don't expect Windows Explorer on your PC to show the drives of
your friend's PC, right? Same thing here....

Bo Berglund
Deo Galvano - 27 May 2008 20:51 GMT
> >> Again, what do you mean with "I see the hard drives"?? Where do you
> >> have this problem (host or guest) and in which context (which viewer
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> Bo Berglund

You're probably right, Bo. Same answer from Colin Barnhorst. It's the first
time for me using VPC and I think I mixed up two things. Sorry for spending
your valuable time to a newbie.
 
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