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Wasted - 26 May 2008 16:51 GMT
Hi

I've just installed VPC 2007 onto a new computer, running Vista 64 bit. Have
used it to create a virtual XP 32 bit installation.

Two immediate issues are that I can't move the mouse outside of the virtual
XP window, and I can't see the physical disks on my machine, other than the
DVD drive that I installed XP from.

Should I be able to do these things? If so, how?

Thanks
Colin Barnhorst - 26 May 2008 17:07 GMT
You need to install the virtual machine additions from the Action menu on
the virtual machine's console (upper left of the frame) to enable mouse
integration and such.  It will also help performance.

You cannot see the drives on the host from inside the guest (XP) because a
virtual machine is a separate computer just as much as a second physical
computer would be.  You can only access things on the host's drives by
networking or using shared folders (set up from inside the guest) once you
install the vm additions.  Installing the additions is an essential step in
completing the set up of your guest.

The optical drive you can see from inside the guest is an emulated cd drive
that you can link to the host's dvd drive through the drop down menu for the
emulated drive, but it is not the host's drive.

You need to think of the guest as a separate computer and provide all the
things for it like antivirus and antispyware software.

> Hi
>
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> Thanks
Wasted - 26 May 2008 17:26 GMT
> You need to install the virtual machine additions from the Action menu on
> the virtual machine's console (upper left of the frame) to enable mouse
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>>
>> Thanks
Thanks Colin - I'll start experimenting

I seem to recall reading somewhere that networking Vista and XP machines
isn't straightforward, but I'll get these additions and then see where I go.
Melelina - 27 May 2008 14:52 GMT
>> You need to install the virtual machine additions from the Action menu on
>> the virtual machine's console (upper left of the frame) to enable mouse
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> isn't straightforward, but I'll get these additions and then see where I
> go.

Why is it so difficult to read posts in this group? One person follows
proper protocol and bottom posts and the next ignores protocol and top posts
and it so hard to read this group.

Anyhow, it not really accurate to say that you cannot see your host's disks
or access them when using a virtual machine. I do all the time. I move
between three VMWare Workstation virtual guests and Virtual PC Vista guest
and I can see my host files and access them all the time. The only time you
cannot is if you go full screen with the guest. That is very difficult to do
in Virtual PC. Very buggy feature. Easy to do in VMWare. But if you don't go
full screen (almost full screen but you still see the host's taskbar and
systray and start menu) then you can easily access anything on the host
while moving around among many virtual guests. Virtual PC seems especially
easy to access the host. I don't think Virtual PC is as secure as VMWare's
Workstation machines as they are more discreet seems to me.

You do not "only" access things on the host machine via shared files or
networking. You just grab what you want and drop it on the virtual machine.
That works on XP ...not as well on Vista unless you place the file you want
from XP (assuming that is your host OS) in a root folder. Then you can just
grab it when you have the guest in almost full screen but not completely
full screen.
Mark Rae [MVP] - 27 May 2008 14:58 GMT
> Why is it so difficult to read posts in this group? One person follows
> proper protocol and bottom posts and the next ignores protocol and top
> posts and it so hard to read this group.

I couldn't agree more! There was a discussion about this recently at the end
of the thread "Snapshots", which had become virtually impossible to follow
because of the top-posting.

The problem is that some people simply don't understand how unreadable and
confusing top-posting can make a thread - some even claim that they top-post
deliberately because that enhances clarity!

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Wasted - 26 May 2008 17:31 GMT
> You need to install the virtual machine additions from the Action menu on
> the virtual machine's console (upper left of the frame) to enable mouse
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>>
>> Thanks
Sorry Colin - could you be more specific about how to install the
additions - I've looked at the Action menu, and the only options are Start,
Pause, Reset, Remove, Settings and Properties.
Colin Barnhorst - 26 May 2008 18:03 GMT
You are looking at the wrong Action menu.  You are looking at the VPC
Console.  You need to look at the Action menu on the virtual machine's
console (the window in which the guest is running).

>> You need to install the virtual machine additions from the Action menu on
>> the virtual machine's console (upper left of the frame) to enable mouse
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> additions - I've looked at the Action menu, and the only options are
> Start, Pause, Reset, Remove, Settings and Properties.
Wasted - 26 May 2008 17:43 GMT
> You need to install the virtual machine additions from the Action menu on
> the virtual machine's console (upper left of the frame) to enable mouse
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>>
>> Thanks
It's OK I just found out that the guest system had to be running to get the
additions - now to fathom out how to make it network with the host!
Mark Rae [MVP] - 26 May 2008 17:50 GMT
>> You need to think of the guest as a separate computer and provide all the
>> things for it like antivirus and antispyware software.
>
> It's OK I just found out that the guest system had to be running to get
> the additions - now to fathom out how to make it network with the host!

As Colin mentioned, the key here is to remember that a virtual machine is no
different from a physical machine as far as the software installed on it is
concerned.

Therefore, you network a physical host and a virtual guest in exactly the
same way as you would network any other two machines...

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George Orwell - 26 May 2008 18:04 GMT
> Hi
>
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>
> Thanks

Click on the Action menu and install the additions.

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