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MAC address visibility for my ISP

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S. Baumann - 22 Jun 2008 13:30 GMT
Hello,

I have two computers, both run Virtual PC 2007, Vista Ultimate as a host OS
and XP Prof. XP2 as a guest OS in a virtual machine. On both computers I
configured the guest OS to use the NIC of the host system. The host and
guest OS have different MAC addresses (as showed by GetMac command line
utility.) Both computers are directly connected to my ISP (I do not use a
router).

There is a web site of my ISP, where I can check, which MAC address my ISP
sees. If I visit this site with the first computer, then my ISP always sees
the same MAC address for the host and guest OS and everything runs fine.

On the second computer, my ISP sees different MAC addresses for the host and
guest OS. The ISP sees the same MAC address, that I also see, if I use
GetMac command line utility on the guest or host OS. Because my ISP allows
only one computer (e.g. one MAC address) to access the internet for a given
account, I can not get internet access in the virtual machine of my second
computer. (The login using PPPoE fails.)

Now my question: How can I configure the second computer to have only one
MAC address visible to my ISP?

Kind regards
S. Baumann
Robert Comer - 22 Jun 2008 13:41 GMT
>Now my question: How can I configure the second computer to have only one
>MAC address visible to my ISP?

Set the networking option in the second VM to "Shared networking
(NAT)"

To tell the truth, it's probably some kind of bug in you NIC driver
that the 1st PC shows the same NIC for both host and guest, that's not
the way it's supposed to work for assigning the NIC to the VM.

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>Hello,
>
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>Kind regards
>S. Baumann
S. Baumann - 22 Jun 2008 14:49 GMT
Hello Robert,

> To tell the truth, it's probably some kind of bug in you NIC driver
> that the 1st PC shows the same NIC for both host and guest, that's not
> the way it's supposed to work for assigning the NIC to the VM.

Thanks for the reply. This works. But it works better with the bug on my
first computer, because I get the full bandwidth twice: once for the guest
OS and once for the host OS, because my ISP does not expect this "feature".
With Shared Networking, both OSs share the bandwidth that the ISP assigns to
my Ethernet connection. There I times, when I like bugs :-)

Kind regards
S. Baumann
Robert Comer - 22 Jun 2008 17:25 GMT
>Thanks for the reply. This works.

Cool.

>There I times, when I like bugs :-)

I can understand how it's advantageous, but it still seems kind of
strange it works at all to me. <g>

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>Kind regards
>S. Baumann
Tony Toews [MVP] - 25 Jun 2008 06:20 GMT
>Both computers are directly connected to my ISP (I do not use a
>router).

Note that by not using a router or other firewall your OSs are
susceptible to being hijacked by viruses until you get the OS patches
installed.     Now this may not be applicable to Win XP or newer with
their built in firewall.  

However that is certainly possible in Windows 2000 as I found out a
few years ago at my aunt's place.   I started up the Win2000 unpatched
VPC and after ten minutes saw a Windows Messenger spam.  Having never
seen one before I said "Hey, look at that."   Then I got to thinking
and hastily unplugged the network card.  My unpatched Win 2000 VPC had
been infected with three virusses by then.

Tony
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aaron.kempf@gmail.com - 28 Jun 2008 09:07 GMT
Windows Messenger isn't a virus you f.cking retard

NET SEND 123.43.45.2 TONY SUCKS

I used to play tricks on my roommates; about a decade ago.. and I'd
name my machine 'Microsoft' and i'd send them messages.. it would say
'Message From Microsoft'

WE HAVE DETECTED YOU ARE RUNNING PIRATED COPIES OF WINDOWS 98 PLEASE
PURCHASE COPIES IMMEDIATELY'.

ROFL

-Aaron

On Jun 24, 10:20 pm, "Tony Toews [MVP]" <tto...@telusplanet.net>
wrote:
> >Both computers are directly connected to my ISP (I do not use a
> >router).
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>    Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems athttp://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
>    Tony'sMicrosoft Access Blog -http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
aaron.kempf@gmail.com - 28 Jun 2008 09:08 GMT
I worked in Corporate Security at Microsoft.. investigated hundreds of
outbreaks similiar to this.

Even _Microsoft_ couldn't keep Windows XP secure-- AT ALL--- until XP
SP2 came out.
I've got the data to prove it ;)

-Aaron

On Jun 24, 10:20 pm, "Tony Toews [MVP]" <tto...@telusplanet.net>
wrote:
> >Both computers are directly connected to my ISP (I do not use a
> >router).
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>    Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems athttp://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
>    Tony'sMicrosoft Access Blog -http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
 
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