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Windows Forum / Virtual PC / June 2008Best Linux version to run under MS VPC 2007?
I decided it was NOT Ubuntu. :-) Any ideas as to which is the best and most stable? FACE >I decided it was NOT Ubuntu. :-) > > Any ideas as to which is the best and most stable? I haven't found one (yet) - I tried Ubuntu, SuSE, CentOS and Red Hat... The main problems (for me) were the PS/2 mouse bug, the broken kernel (2.16) and the lack of Additions. None of these is insurmountable if you have the time and/or inclination to fight with them - I have neither. VMWare, on the other hand, supports several distros natively, and includes the equivalent of Additions. Download VMWare Player (it's free): http://www.vmware.com/products/player/ and then download one of the pre-built "appliances": http://www.vmware.com/appliances/ Virtual PC is superb for Windows (and DOS and OS/2), but Linux is just too much of a hassle, IMO... Others have tamed the beast: http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4 GZEZ_en-GBGB252GB252&q=Virtual+PC+Ubuntu but, as I mentioned, I have better things to do...  SignatureMark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net >> I decided it was NOT Ubuntu. :-) >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Virtual PC is superb for Windows (and DOS and OS/2), but Linux is just > too much of a hassle, IMO... Mark: I have often wondered why Virtual PC is free, and have thought that perhaps it is in order to capture people just starting on virtualization in the hope that they will stay with Microsoft products when they move to server virtualization. However, the lack of good linux support (and USB) loses a lot of people right from the start. VMWare Player is free, and there are lots of linux-based appliances that beginners can obtain for free. VPC has no analogous offerings. SignatureDavid Wilkinson Visual C++ MVP On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:32:55 -0400, in microsoft.public.virtualpc, David Wilkinson <no-reply@effisols.com>, wrote >Mark: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >VMWare Player is free, and there are lots of linux-based appliances that >beginners can obtain for free. VPC has no analogous offerings. Pardon me for jumping in here but I have some ideas on this. A couple weeks ago when i started with this product I read the intro pages on the MS VPC web site and after doing so got a good laugh. What i read between the lines about "legacy applications", etc., was MS saying "we realize that Vista is a dog and we're offering this really user friendly package so that you can still run XP". Just my opinion, yours may differ, and that is fine........ FACE >> Download VMWare Player (it's free): >> http://www.vmware.com/products/player/ [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > VMWare Player is free, and there are lots of linux-based appliances that > beginners can obtain for free. Thank for that... ;-) SignatureMark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net Perhaps MS makes it freely available because it fits into thier business plan as a tool that facilitates the use of MS products rather than because they feel it is limited in some way. >>> I decided it was NOT Ubuntu. :-) >>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > VMWare Player is free, and there are lots of linux-based appliances that > beginners can obtain for free. VPC has no analogous offerings. > Perhaps MS makes it freely available because it fits into thier business > plan as a tool that facilitates the use of MS products rather than [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> VMWare Player is free, and there are lots of linux-based appliances >> that beginners can obtain for free. VPC has no analogous offerings. Virtual PC was meant to be a conversion aid so developers could run their old legacy systems along side their reincarnated versions of the old software. Applications running on OS/2, Windows 3.1, 95, or 98 didn't support USB so there was no reason to build USB support into Virtual PC. And as far as Linux is concerned, that's an entirely different animal. And we know that Bill Gates loathes open source software because he can't make any money on it. If you want to run Linux, the BSDs, or other operating systems inside a virtual machine, you have to look elsewhere. VMWare is an alternative but I prefer VirtualBox. If I were interested in running virtual machines in a large scale enterprise environment, that would be a different story. But for personal use or in a smaller scale enterprise environment VirtualBox can do quite nicely. Understand that virtual machine systems aren't perfect and they don't support every PC based operating system out there. On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:07:20 +0100, in microsoft.public.virtualpc, "Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark@markNOSPAMrae.net>, wrote >>I decided it was NOT Ubuntu. :-) >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >but, as I mentioned, I have better things to do... I agree that MS VPC + Linux appears to be a hassle. I am downloading the VMWare player now (WOW! 172meg!) and will get some 'Appliances" afterwards. BTW, yesterday, after running out of space in a 2 gig allocation for Ubuntu. I remade the VM vhd at 4 gig dynamic and wound up with about 3.2Gig by the time it was finished installing the essentially unusable desktop. By what I had read, it should have been 2.6 gig but hey, what's a 1/2 gig here or there. :-) The net was rife with people having the same problems that I encountered, but none of the solutions quite fixed it............ FACE What I've found for "my" use. Virtual PC for MS products Virtual Box for MS Win2K and newer. Have also installed openSUSE v10.3, v11.0, Ubuntu, PClinux. There are some issues with the VirtualBox additions and various flavors of Linux. However, they are easy to overcome with a quick search on the internet. >I decided it was NOT Ubuntu. :-) > > Any ideas as to which is the best and most stable? > > FACE On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:06:49 -0500, in microsoft.public.virtualpc, "Mike Holder" <ml_holder@comcast.net>, wrote >What I've found for "my" use. >Virtual PC for MS products >Virtual Box for MS Win2K and newer. Have also installed openSUSE v10.3, >v11.0, Ubuntu, PClinux. There are some issues with the VirtualBox additions >and various flavors of Linux. However, they are easy to overcome with a >quick search on the internet. Whatever works for you is the best for you. I am running Win 2K under MS VPC and I have mentioned elsewhere that it was the most "interesting" of the Win group to get customized under MS VPC. I imagine it is because of the NT kernel. I got VMPlayer this morning and Fedora 9 as a preconfigured "appliance". I am not RAM rich, so i downed it's "preconfigured" 512M RAM allocation to 128 and it is slow as molasses -- well, a *lot* slower really........ But it works.......... I was under the impression -- obviously wrong from what i have seen -- that Linux was light on RAM requirements. I'm running Win 95 on 48M RAM and it hops and pops............. >>I decided it was NOT Ubuntu. :-) >> >> Any ideas as to which is the best and most stable? FACE > I was under the impression -- obviously wrong from what i have seen -- > that Linux was light on RAM requirements. It is, but 128MB is just plain ridiculous - it didn't come preconfigured with 512MB RAM for nothing... SignatureMark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net >On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:06:49 -0500, in microsoft.public.virtualpc, "Mike >Holder" <ml_holder@comcast.net>, wrote [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >that Linux was light on RAM requirements. I'm running Win 95 on 48M RAM >and it hops and pops............. Older versions of Linux are, but most new ones are graphically rich and full of features, just like Windows, especially Fedora 9, Ubuntu, etc. SignatureCheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ I do not work for Microsoft. > I decided it was NOT Ubuntu. :-) > > Any ideas as to which is the best and most stable? > > FACE I runs REDHAT and Debian very well with VirtualPC.I think the installation is somewhat skillful but the management after that well be quite easy. |
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