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SirMoony - 09 Oct 2008 18:04 GMT
Its been since 2004 that people ask around for USB support in Virtual PC.
I've seen a lot of requests about that in many forums. So... Why Virtual PC
still not USB ports in 2008?. Even in the service pack 1 that you had time to
release they are not supported.

Also, I want to know why MS employees perfer telling people to go VMWare
instead of saying to wait for the next release that'll include USB support?
It is absolutely absurd. I don't know any company that would allow employees
to recommend a competitor!!!!

Do you intent to support USB ports or not? I think the question is simple
and deserve a better answer.
Mark Rae [MVP] - 09 Oct 2008 18:36 GMT
> Also, I want to know why MS employees perfer telling people to go VMWare
> instead of saying to wait for the next release that'll include USB
> support?
> It is absolutely absurd. I don't know any company that would allow
> employees
> to recommend a competitor!!!!

MS employees...?

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David Sanders - 09 Oct 2008 20:48 GMT
>> Also, I want to know why MS employees perfer telling people to go VMWare
>> instead of saying to wait for the next release that'll include USB
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> MS employees...?

I think he means MVPs (which are not employeed by MS).
Mark Rae [MVP] - 09 Oct 2008 20:58 GMT
> I think he means MVPs

Ah - could be...

> (which are not employeed by MS).

Definitely not!

In fact, any MVP who accepted a job with Microsoft would lose their MVP
status...

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Bo Berglund - 09 Oct 2008 21:39 GMT
>>> Also, I want to know why MS employees perfer telling people to go VMWare
>>> instead of saying to wait for the next release that'll include USB
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>I think he means MVPs (which are not employeed by MS).

Just out of curiosity:
What does the acronym MVP stand for?

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Mark Rae [MVP] - 09 Oct 2008 21:47 GMT
> Just out of curiosity:
> What does the acronym MVP stand for?

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

And, at the risk of severe pedantry, MVP isn't actually an acronym because
it's not a pronounceable word. It's an abbreviation or, more correctly, an
initialism...

SCUBA, UNICEF, NATO, VISA are acronyms...

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Bo Berglund - 09 Oct 2008 22:19 GMT
>> Just out of curiosity:
>> What does the acronym MVP stand for?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>SCUBA, UNICEF, NATO, VISA are acronyms...

I am not a native English speaker, even though I consider myself
relatively proficient in the language. However, I always considered
the word "acronym" equivalent to "abbreviation" in the sense of using
the first letter of the words in a phrase as representation of the
phrase itself.
Wikipedia has this description of the difference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym

But that aside, I now know (thanks to your link) that MVP stands for
"Microsoft Most Valuable Professionals" (should really have been MMVP
then...). This title is apparently awarded based on technical
excellence:
"Each year, the technical community's best and brightest are awarded
as Microsoft MVPs."

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Steve Jain [MVP] - 09 Oct 2008 22:32 GMT
>>> Just out of curiosity:
>>> What does the acronym MVP stand for?
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>"Each year, the technical community's best and brightest are awarded
>as Microsoft MVPs."

And we are not Microsoft employees, just recognized by Microsoft for
our work in the various communities (newsgroups, usergroups, blogs,
talks, etc).

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Mark Rae [MVP] - 09 Oct 2008 22:53 GMT
>>And, at the risk of severe pedantry, MVP isn't actually an acronym because
>>it's not a pronounceable word. It's an abbreviation or, more correctly, an
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> the first letter of the words in a phrase as representation of the
> phrase itself.

An acronym has to be a pronounceable word, otherwise it's not an acronym...

> Wikipedia has this description of the difference:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym

You're surely not suggesting that Wiki is an any way authoritative? Surely
not...

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Bo Berglund - 09 Oct 2008 23:07 GMT
>You're surely not suggesting that Wiki is an any way authoritative? Surely
>not...

Just wanted to know what MVP is.....

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Bill Grant - 09 Oct 2008 23:46 GMT
>>You're surely not suggesting that Wiki is an any way authoritative? Surely
>>not...
>
> Just wanted to know what MVP is.....

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Mark Rae [MVP] - 10 Oct 2008 00:42 GMT
>> Just wanted to know what MVP is.....
>
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

Now why didn't I think of that...? ;-)

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Tim Walsh - 10 Oct 2008 16:17 GMT
MVP is an honor bestowed on a select few individuals to recognize their
knowledge, but I think more importantly their willingness to share that
knowledge with the rest of us. Usually you'll find that MVPs participate in
newsgroups, but also blogs, classrooms, lecture tours, and user groups in
their areas.

My understanding is that MVPs are nominated by Microsoft employees and by
other MVPs, but are not themselves Microsoft employees. Just being nominated
is an honor in my opinion, being selected a even bigger honor.

>>You're surely not suggesting that Wiki is an any way authoritative? Surely
>>not...
>
> Just wanted to know what MVP is.....
Mark Rae [MVP] - 10 Oct 2008 17:27 GMT
> My understanding is that MVPs are nominated by Microsoft employees and by
> other MVPs, but are not themselves Microsoft employees.

Correct. As mentioned, any MVP who becomes a Microsoft employee will lose
their MVP award...

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David Sanders - 10 Oct 2008 23:39 GMT
> Correct. As mentioned, any MVP who becomes a Microsoft employee will lose
> their MVP award...


In that case it would be MVME - Most Valuable Microsoft Employee.
Steve Jain [MVP] - 09 Oct 2008 18:55 GMT
>Its been since 2004 that people ask around for USB support in Virtual PC.
>I've seen a lot of requests about that in many forums. So... Why Virtual PC
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>It is absolutely absurd. I don't know any company that would allow employees
>to recommend a competitor!!!!

What Microsoft employee said that?  I don't know of any that have said
that.

>Do you intent to support USB ports or not? I think the question is simple
>and deserve a better answer.

Microsoft doesn't comment on unreleased or unannounced products, you
won't any answers by demanding them in a user-supported newsgroup.

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Mark Rae [MVP] - 09 Oct 2008 19:07 GMT
>>Also, I want to know why MS employees perfer telling people to go VMWare
>>instead of saying to wait for the next release that'll include USB
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> What Microsoft employee said that?  I don't know of any that have said
> that.

AFAIK, the only Microsoft employee who posts in here is Ben Armstrong,
albeit fairly infrequently these days...

My old pal Mike Brannigan used to post here a few years ago when he was
still a "softie" (and after he left), but I haven't seen him around for
ages...

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Steve Jain [MVP] - 09 Oct 2008 21:25 GMT
>>>Also, I want to know why MS employees perfer telling people to go VMWare
>>>instead of saying to wait for the next release that'll include USB
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>still a "softie" (and after he left), but I haven't seen him around for
>ages...

Maybe I should put the "I do not work for Microsoft" back in my
signature...jeez :-(

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Mark Rae [MVP] - 09 Oct 2008 21:41 GMT
> Maybe I should put the "I do not work for Microsoft" back in my
> signature...jeez :-(

LOL! One hive mind... ;-)

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Jane C - 10 Oct 2008 08:24 GMT
> AFAIK, the only Microsoft employee who posts in here is Ben Armstrong,
> albeit fairly infrequently these days...
>
> My old pal Mike Brannigan used to post here a few years ago when he was
> still a "softie" (and after he left), but I haven't seen him around for
> ages...

Mike still pops into the vista newsgroups now and then :)

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ronald.phillips@gmail.com - 10 Oct 2008 11:31 GMT
On Oct 9, 1:04 pm, SirMoony <SirMo...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> Its been since 2004 that people ask around for USB support in Virtual PC.
> I've seen a lot of requests about that in many forums. So... Why Virtual PC
> still not USB ports in 2008?. Even in the service pack 1 that you had time to
> release they are not supported.

I've been asking Connectix/MS since 2002. I remember since I think it
was around that time that USB support came out in Vmware 3.
So yeah 6 years and 1 month.
Hans - 11 Oct 2008 08:33 GMT
My USB mouse is doing fine in VP 2007...

>On Oct 9, 1:04 pm, SirMoony <SirMo...@discussions.microsoft.com>
>wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>was around that time that USB support came out in Vmware 3.
>So yeah 6 years and 1 month.
Mark Rae [MVP] - 11 Oct 2008 09:59 GMT
>>> Its been since 2004 that people ask around for USB support in Virtual
>>> PC.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>was around that time that USB support came out in Vmware 3.
>>So yeah 6 years and 1 month.

> My USB mouse is doing fine in VP 2007...

USB mice and keyboards work via emulation of PS/2 devices.

USB mass storage devices (e.g. memory sticks, external hard disks etc) can
be used via standard networking.

However, try plugging something like a USB camera in...

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Hans - 11 Oct 2008 10:42 GMT
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:59:57 +0100, "Mark Rae [MVP]"
Thanks Mark, all clear now.
Hans
<mark@markNOSPAMrae.net> wrote:

>>>> Its been since 2004 that people ask around for USB support in Virtual
>>>> PC.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>However, try plugging something like a USB camera in...
xcal - 12 Oct 2008 13:42 GMT
hi Mark, thanks also for your good answers,
by the way, i think PocketPCs cant be used with VPCs, isnt it ?

Carlos.

> >>> Its been since 2004 that people ask around for USB support in Virtual
> >>> PC.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> However, try plugging something like a USB camera in...
Robert Comer - 12 Oct 2008 13:51 GMT
Not by a USB connection.

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>hi Mark, thanks also for your good answers,
>by the way, i think PocketPCs cant be used with VPCs, isnt it ?
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>>
>> However, try plugging something like a USB camera in...
Mark Rae [MVP] - 12 Oct 2008 16:55 GMT
>>> My USB mouse is doing fine in VP 2007...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>> However, try plugging something like a USB camera in...

> By the way, I think PocketPCs can't be used with VPC, can they?

Correct.

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