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x64 general applications
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typingcat@gmail.com - 09 Jul 2006 07:26 GMT Are there any native x64 applications of, Image Viewer(like acdsee,irfan viewer), Archiver(zip,rar...), Image editor(like photoshop, paint shop...), Music player (like winamp), Anti-virus...
I mean native x64 applicatoins, not those only compatitible with (32bit but just run on) Windows x64. Thanks.
Aaron Kelley - 09 Jul 2006 18:54 GMT Paint.NET is a nice, free image editor that runs natively in 64-bit. There are several 64-bit antivirus solutions.
That's about all I know about. I know that Windows Media Player is 64-bit native in Windows Vista. There are a bunch of 64-bit downloads at www.planetamd64.com.
- Aaron
> Are there any native x64 applications of, > Image Viewer(like acdsee,irfan viewer), [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I mean native x64 applicatoins, not those only compatitible with (32bit > but just run on) Windows x64. Thanks. Benjamin Gawert - 09 Jul 2006 21:34 GMT * typingcat@gmail.com:
> Are there any native x64 applications of, > Music player (like winamp), What do you expect a 64bit music player does better than a 32bit one?
Benjamin
Tony Sperling - 09 Jul 2006 22:43 GMT Precisely.
The app's that are mentioned will hardly be any heavy candidates for porting - beyond Aaron's suggestion, which looks interesting, although also not a 'heavy' candidate, perhaps - I know of Blender and PovRay, that might have significant benefit in a professional graphical environment. Both are Open Source.
Tony. . .
> * typingcat@gmail.com: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Benjamin Carlos - 09 Jul 2006 22:48 GMT Native x64 apps. Archiver: Squeez (http://www.speedproject.de/enu/squeez/index.html) Antivirus: Avast (http://www.avast.com) Text Editor: Vedit (http://www.vedit.com) No music player so far. It would also be useless because you would need x64 decoders. There are some here, however: http://okejl.dk/dunstan/
More x64 native programs here: http://crystalmark.info/?lang=en http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/TweakUI-64-Bit-Edition-Download-24753.html
Carlos
> Are there any native x64 applications of, > Image Viewer(like acdsee,irfan viewer), [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I mean native x64 applicatoins, not those only compatitible with (32bit > but just run on) Windows x64. Thanks. Tony Sperling - 09 Jul 2006 23:23 GMT Sorry, Carlos - Avast is not completely 64bit, I think. Just the system probing stuff that would otherwise break it.
Have you any personal experience from the decoders, I wonder? I've just bought a TV Tuner Card and need to pick up on how to put it to the best of use.
Tony. . .
> Native x64 apps. > Archiver: Squeez (http://www.speedproject.de/enu/squeez/index.html) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > More x64 native programs here: > http://crystalmark.info/?lang=en http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/TweakUI-64-Bit-Edition-Download-24753.html
> Carlos > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I mean native x64 applicatoins, not those only compatitible with (32bit > > but just run on) Windows x64. Thanks. Carlos - 09 Jul 2006 23:53 GMT Tony: Haven't tried them because there is no x64 player yet. I did try the Xvid one with Virtualdub (www.virtualdub.org) which has a native x64 video processing version. So, Xvid decoder for x64 works. Don't know about the others in that page (Dolby AC3 5.1 sound, MP3, x264) Carlos
> Sorry, Carlos - Avast is not completely 64bit, I think. Just the system > probing stuff that would otherwise break it. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > > I mean native x64 applicatoins, not those only compatitible with (32bit > > > but just run on) Windows x64. Thanks. Aaron Kelley - 10 Jul 2006 02:50 GMT I've seen 64-bit builds of FFDShow but no player to try them with. (Maybe I'll try that out in x64 Vista...)
Anyway, if you have a TV tuner, there is an x64 version of Windows Media Encoder that should be able to use your TV card as a source. (WME is not the most convenient way to record stuff off of your TV card, I suppose, but it might be interesting to see how it performs. :-P)
- Aaron
> Tony: > Haven't tried them because there is no x64 player yet. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >> > > (32bit >> > > but just run on) Windows x64. Thanks. Carlos - 10 Jul 2006 03:00 GMT Aaron: ffdshow x64 is a hoax, IMHO. It won't install and its web page (http://x64.killallthehumans.co.uk/ffdshow) has disappeared. Carlos
> I've seen 64-bit builds of FFDShow but no player to try them with. (Maybe > I'll try that out in x64 Vista...) [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > >> > > (32bit > >> > > but just run on) Windows x64. Thanks. Aaron Kelley - 10 Jul 2006 15:56 GMT Maybe you're right. I found a build from June 20 on planetamd64.com, but I installed it in Vista and wasn't able to get it to work at all.
- Aaron
> Aaron: > ffdshow x64 is a hoax, IMHO. [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] >> >> > > (32bit >> >> > > but just run on) Windows x64. Thanks. Dennis Pack x64, v64B2 (5384), OPP2007B2 - 10 Jul 2006 02:45 GMT Tony: I have the Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP Expert capture card which has the Conexant cx2388x chipset (10 bit) with beta drivers from http://tw1965.myweb.hinet.net/. The Leadtek Winfast PVR software from that site works as does ShowShifter with Windows x64 but they aren't compatible with Vista x64 at this time. A glance at "planetamd64" indicates that there may be PVR150 64 bit drivers available.
> Sorry, Carlos - Avast is not completely 64bit, I think. Just the system > probing stuff that would otherwise break it. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> > I mean native x64 applicatoins, not those only compatitible with (32bit >> > but just run on) Windows x64. Thanks. Dennis Gordon - 10 Jul 2006 03:21 GMT I believe that Sonar 5 runs natively as 64 bit, although I have yet to use it....
> Tony: > I have the Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP Expert capture card which has the [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >> More x64 native programs here: > >> http://crystalmark.info/?lang=en http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/TweakUI-64-Bit-Edition-Download-24753.html
> >> Carlos > >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >> > I mean native x64 applicatoins, not those only compatitible with (32bit > >> > but just run on) Windows x64. Thanks. Tony Sperling - 10 Jul 2006 22:31 GMT Thanks, Dennis! Well, mine is a ComPro T300 VideoMate. I think it said somewhere that it used the Philips chip - it can record natively in MPEG2 and MPEG4 if I install the decoder for it, when looking, I found an MPEG4 decoder installed but I have not checked it, and I have not been able to find anything 64bit, so I am running it on the Win2K installation. I just wonder if there is any benefit in using anything else than MPEG2? Much eloquence, I find, is being expended on DIVX, but I am not at all sure if that is something I will benefit from using. When I find something, I expect it to be on PAMD64.
But it's early days - I need to get aquainted with all this and I need to get something recorded that I will think worthwhile putting on a DVD. Meanwhile, I probably start out by putting some of the old video casettes on DVD - that'll have the ball rolling.
Tony. . .
> Tony: > I have the Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP Expert capture card which has the [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >> More x64 native programs here: > >> http://crystalmark.info/?lang=en http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/TweakUI-64-Bit-Edition-Download-24753.html
> >> Carlos > >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >> > I mean native x64 applicatoins, not those only compatitible with (32bit > >> > but just run on) Windows x64. Thanks. Carlos - 10 Jul 2006 22:54 GMT Tony: XVid is freeware for both decoding and coding. What specific jobs do you intend to do? WinAVI (www.winavi.com) is a very simple tool from coding from almost every format into any format. Carlos
> Thanks, Dennis! Well, mine is a ComPro T300 VideoMate. I think it said > somewhere that it used the Philips chip - it can record natively in MPEG2 [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > (32bit > > >> > but just run on) Windows x64. Thanks. Tony Sperling - 10 Jul 2006 23:27 GMT I don't even know what I want to do, beyond sending the VCR on retirement. Down at the shop, when handing over the money - I guess I had an idea that I would experiment in the broadest sense. One such idea was to convert native Flightsimulator videos to another format, but having installed the beast and inspecting the kind of software that seems hard to do now. I'll have a look at that WinAVI thing, to see if we hit it off together. Appart from the packaged software, I have Nero7 and I just need to familiarize myself with all of it. Dispell some old ideas. Form new ones.
Tony. . .
> Tony: > XVid is freeware for both decoding and coding. > What specific jobs do you intend to do? > WinAVI (www.winavi.com) is a very simple tool from coding from almost every > format into any format. > Carlos Carlos - 11 Jul 2006 00:07 GMT Tony: If you want to go the full nine yards with x64 encoding then use Virtualdub (www.virtualdub.org) and XVid (http://okejl.dk/dunstan/) Carlos
> I don't even know what I want to do, beyond sending the VCR on retirement. > Down at the shop, when handing over the money - I guess I had an idea that I [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > format into any format. > > Carlos Tony Sperling - 11 Jul 2006 02:17 GMT I'll check them out - thank you.
Tony. . .
> Tony: > If you want to go the full nine yards with x64 encoding then use Virtualdub [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > > format into any format. > > > Carlos Harry Austin - 10 Jul 2006 06:44 GMT > Antivirus: Avast (http://www.avast.com) Unfortunately, Avast does will not do a boot-time scan in 64bit. Nonetheless it is the program we use on all our XP machines including the 64bit one.
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Tony Sperling - 10 Jul 2006 23:11 GMT Interesting! I don't even remember having noticed.
I'll check it out.
Tony. . .
> > Antivirus: Avast (http://www.avast.com) > > Unfortunately, Avast does will not do a boot-time scan in 64bit. > Nonetheless it is the program we use on all our XP machines including the > 64bit one. Carl Kaufmann - 10 Jul 2006 20:58 GMT > Are there any native x64 applications of, > Image Viewer(like acdsee,irfan viewer), [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I mean native x64 applicatoins, not those only compatitible with (32bit > but just run on) Windows x64. Thanks. Archiver: 7-Zip (www.7-Zip.org) and if you don't mind the command-line, Info-Zip has 64-bit versions of their utilities.
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