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Diskmon in Vista?

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Carlos - 28 Apr 2008 13:51 GMT
Has anybody tested Diskmon
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-au/sysinternals/bb896646.aspx) in Windows
Vista?
"DiskMon is an application that logs and displays all hard disk activity on
a Windows system. You can also minimize DiskMon to your system tray where it
acts as a disk light, presenting a green icon when there is disk-read
activity and a red icon when there is disk-write activity."
Carlos
Tony Sperling - 28 Apr 2008 18:18 GMT
The jury is still 'out' pondering the warranty ramifications for my 64bit
dual-core, so out of boredom I installed this to my Win2K machine. I have to
say that the 80K's of code is probably a lot more interesting than the
utility itself. One interesting observation might be that the icon seems to
log much more activity than the front-panel LED is doing!

Tony. . .

> Has anybody tested Diskmon
> (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-au/sysinternals/bb896646.aspx) in Windows
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> activity and a red icon when there is disk-write activity."
> Carlos
Carlos - 28 Apr 2008 19:07 GMT
Hi Tony,
Here's the whole story, as I was in a hurry when I posted my question this
morning.
My newest laptop (HP530) has Vista Home Premium 32-bit and doesn't have any
LED for HDD activity.
That, and the fact that the hard disk is quite silent, leads me to a
blind/deaf state for monitoring disk activity.
After googling a little, I found DiskMon and installed it on Windows XP at
work, w/o the permission of the IT guys!!!
I noticed the same as you, there's a lot of activity monitored by DiskMon
that doesn't show up in the front cabinet LED.
It seems as if small read/write operations don't have the time length
required for the human eye to see them, but DiskMon systray LED must surely
be extending that time artificially so that it is visible to the eye.
The WinXP version requires no driver at all and it is just that, an
executable. Which leads me to think that it should work in Vista x86.
Don't know whether this line of thought also applies to Vista x64.
Maybe someone jumps in and sheds some light.
Carlos

> The jury is still 'out' pondering the warranty ramifications for my 64bit
> dual-core, so out of boredom I installed this to my Win2K machine. I have to
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> > activity and a red icon when there is disk-write activity."
> > Carlos
Tony Sperling - 28 Apr 2008 20:15 GMT
A HP without a disk activity indicator? That I find surprising, but at the
same time I'm not really surprised - I didn't put all laptops to that much
scrutiny so I can have missed any number. For that kind of application I
agree, that makes it potentially usefull. I don't think I would bother to
set it up to autostart, though.

With 80K's of binary instruction, it has got to be well written - and I
would expect nothing else from MR. According to his notes, the tool is
written as a GUI/Devicedriver combo, using a substitution technique by
intercepting the device's own driver and subverting information that it can
use to be displayed for it's own purposes. Since Devicedrivers on Vista are
written on a completely new foundation, as I understand it, your hopes may
not be realized? Let's see what people have to say.

Tony. . .

> Hi Tony,
> Here's the whole story, as I was in a hurry when I posted my question this
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> > > activity and a red icon when there is disk-write activity."
> > > Carlos
Carlos - 29 Apr 2008 00:01 GMT
Tony,
Testing it right now on Vista HP x86...
Systray "LED" always glows red, as apposed to XP where it blinks green for
"read" and red for "write".
So far so good, real LED's on cabinets do not change color when reading or
writing to HD.
Carlos

> A HP without a disk activity indicator? That I find surprising, but at the
> same time I'm not really surprised - I didn't put all laptops to that much
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> > > > activity and a red icon when there is disk-write activity."
> > > > Carlos
Tony Sperling - 29 Apr 2008 00:42 GMT
That's right, cabinets have generic activity displays - so has my HP
notebook. It's got a blue array of Power, Disk and Charge/Plug-in status.

So, it clearly picks up a signal in 32bits, let's keep hoping, but I do
suspect the 'Red Only' may in fact indicate a Vista peculiarity, since the
LED wouldn't ever be static, or you cannot monitor any activity!

Tony. . .

> Tony,
> Testing it right now on Vista HP x86...
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> > > > > activity and a red icon when there is disk-write activity."
> > > > > Carlos
Carlos - 29 Apr 2008 01:37 GMT
Tony,
It has two different states:
- Gray for no activity
- Red for both read (former green) and write (former red)
So it clearly tells me whether the drive is being accessed (red) or not
(gray).
Sorry for the confusion.
Carlos

> That's right, cabinets have generic activity displays - so has my HP
> notebook. It's got a blue array of Power, Disk and Charge/Plug-in status.
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> > > > > > activity and a red icon when there is disk-write activity."
> > > > > > Carlos
John Fullbright - 29 Apr 2008 18:23 GMT
As a user mode application, Diskmon is sitting above the file system cache
and the storage stack.  The disk activity light on the hard drive is at the
opposite end; the bottom of the storage stack.  In between you have layers
of caching.  Diskmon is reqorting disk activity (the blinking light) which
is satisfied from cache and doesn't actually make it to the disk (no
blinking light).

> Hi Tony,
> Here's the whole story, as I was in a hurry when I posted my question this
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>> > activity and a red icon when there is disk-write activity."
>> > Carlos
Carlos - 29 Apr 2008 19:50 GMT
Thanks, John!
That cleared all my doubts.
Carlos

> As a user mode application, Diskmon is sitting above the file system cache
> and the storage stack.  The disk activity light on the hard drive is at the
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> >> > activity and a red icon when there is disk-write activity."
> >> > Carlos
 
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