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Playing Blu-ray discs in x64 Corel WinDVD 10 does *not* work
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Jim - 01 May 2008 19:33 GMT I settled down to watch my first Blu-ray disc in x64, and I failed miserably. I noticed Corel WinDVD has a new version for Blu-ray, so I bought it (even though the test was uncertain about my operating system and equipment). Sure enough, it locks up and does not work.
Any solutions?
Thank you!
Jim
Allan - 01 May 2008 20:04 GMT >I settled down to watch my first Blu-ray disc in x64, and I failed > miserably. I noticed Corel WinDVD has a new version for Blu-ray, so I > bought it (even though the test was uncertain about my operating > system and equipment). Sure enough, it locks up and does not work. > > Any solutions? Return Corel WinDVD and ask for your money back.
-- Allan
Jim - 02 May 2008 04:09 GMT > "Jim" <jme...@cal.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
> Return Corel WinDVD and ask for your money back. Alan,
Thank you! I think I'll do that. BTW, I added one revision. I meant version 9.0, which is the latest version.
Jim
John Adams - 02 May 2008 06:17 GMT I'm using PowerDVD on Vista x64 and I can watch Blu-Ray just fine.
Be SURE that you have a compatible system before you blame the software. You MUST have a video card AND monitor that support HDCP and they must be connected through either DVI or HDMI. Blu-Ray requires this setup in order to play.
- John
> I settled down to watch my first Blu-ray disc in x64, and I failed > miserably. I noticed Corel WinDVD has a new version for Blu-ray, so I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jim Jim - 02 May 2008 15:17 GMT > I'm using PowerDVD on Vista x64 and I can watch Blu-Ray just fine. > > Be SURE that you have a compatible system before you blame the software. > You MUST have a video card AND monitor that support HDCP and they must be > connected through either DVI or HDMI. Blu-Ray requires this setup in order > to play. John,
I am suspecting my monitor and my CPU. I have an nVidia 8800 GTX video card, so I do no think that is the problem. I have a Samsung SyncMaster 243T monitor, which is 24" at 1920 X 12000. It is a fairly old monitor, and I share it between two computers with a Gefen swich box. I do not think the Gefen box adds to the situation, but I do not know. I am using Dual Opteron 275 CPUs, which are dual-core, but which do not seem to be recognized by the program. I have 8 GB of system memory.
I'll call Corel today.
Thank you!
Jim
Jim - 02 May 2008 17:22 GMT I just called Corel, and Corel WinDVD 9 Blu-ray does *not* support x64.
I am still in need of a *software* player which will play Blu-ray discs in x64.
Thank you!
Roxio says their CinePlayer will *work* in x64, but it will *not* play Blu-ray.
Jim
Theo - 02 May 2008 17:54 GMT Did you check out PowerDVD as mentioned by John Adams?
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Playing Blu-ray discs in x64 Corel WinDVD 10 does *not* work Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 00:17:43 -0500 From: John Adams <seamus@horadrim.net> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general References: <834813a6-5c52-4d5e-adce-aaeebea933d8@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>
I'm using PowerDVD on Vista x64 and I can watch Blu-Ray just fine.
Be SURE that you have a compatible system before you blame the software. You MUST have a video card AND monitor that support HDCP and they must be connected through either DVI or HDMI. Blu-Ray requires this setup in order to play.
- John
> I just called Corel, and Corel WinDVD 9 Blu-ray does *not* support > x64. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jim Colin Barnhorst - 02 May 2008 20:52 GMT You might try this blu-ray forum where all of the issues are discussed by users. http://forum.blu-ray.com/forumdisplay.php?f=35
I just called Corel, and Corel WinDVD 9 Blu-ray does *not* support x64.
I am still in need of a *software* player which will play Blu-ray discs in x64.
Thank you!
Roxio says their CinePlayer will *work* in x64, but it will *not* play Blu-ray.
Jim
Carlos - 02 May 2008 20:39 GMT Then Slysoft AnyDVD HD is all you need. http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html "Allows you to watch movies over a digital display connection, without HDCP-compliant graphics card and without HDCP-compilant display. No need to buy an expensive monitor"
:) Carlos
> > I'm using PowerDVD on Vista x64 and I can watch Blu-Ray just fine. > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Jim Jim - 03 May 2008 07:50 GMT > Then Slysoft AnyDVD HD is all you need.http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html > "Allows you to watch movies over a digital display connection, without [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > :) > Carlos Carlos,
As usual, you have an extremely clever, and helpful solution. I'm concerned about the short-term, as well as the long-term. I think your solution is *excellent* in the short-term, but I am starting to feel like x64 is dying out. For a while it was getting fairly good support from a number of companies. Now companies seem not to want to support 64-bit; but, if they do support it, they support Vista 64 bit. My Tyan K8WE (S2895) is aging, and I don't know how much longer I will be able to install Vista on it. Mostly I hate Vista, I have it on the notebook I am using right now; but I think it will be the wave of the future. I may buy your recommended software tomorrow, nevertheless, because my son is visiting and I wanted to show him a Blu-ray disc. (I have also wanted to watch one.
Thanks again for the *excellent* advice!
I'd be interested in your opinion on the future of x64?
Jim
Carlos - 04 May 2008 23:07 GMT Jim, Thank you for your kind comments.
:) Carlos
> > Then Slysoft AnyDVD HD is all you need.http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html > > "Allows you to watch movies over a digital display connection, without [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Jim Jim - 05 May 2008 16:23 GMT > Jim, > Thank you for your kind comments. > :) > Carlos Carlos,
The Vista Ultimate DVD 64-bit is scheduled to arrive today. Wish me luck! <g> I'm *not* looking forward to this, but I do not think they are going to be releasing as many new drivers for x64 and more new stuff is supporting 64-bit Vista.
Jim
Jim - 03 May 2008 07:43 GMT > > I'm using PowerDVD on Vista x64 and I can watch Blu-Ray just fine. > > > Be SURE that you have a compatible system before you blame the software. > > You MUST have a video card AND monitor that support HDCP and they must be > > connected through either DVI or HDMI. Blu-Ray requires this setup in order > > to play. John,
It turns out we were both partially correct. You were correct in that my monitor, which I bought in November, 2004 is *not* HDCP compliant. However, I also bought PowerDVD, and their tech support *now* tells me that it *does* work in Vista 64-bit, but it does *not* work in x64.
I am now thinking of both upgrading x64 to Vista 64-bit *and* to buy a new HDCP monitor. However, Carlos makes an interesting point below.
Thanks for your input! :-)
Jim
John Adams - 04 May 2008 06:01 GMT Jim,
I'm glad you're working things out. I'm not sure what sort of video card you have installed on your machine, but if you're going to be upgrading things, that might be a good place to examine as well. Video cards with built in acceleration for HD content (such as the nVidia 8xxx and 9xxx series cards as well as ATI's top end cards) will make a big difference in how they play on your system. I'm not really an expert on this, but I do not think that standard MPEG-2 acceleration works for blu-ray or HD-DVD content. That being the case, playing the content will be extremely resource intensive (by this, I mean your blu-ray movies may "skip" during playback) without hardware acceleration.
- John
>> > I'm using PowerDVD on Vista x64 and I can watch Blu-Ray just fine. >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Jim Jim - 04 May 2008 10:02 GMT > I'm glad you're working things out. I'm not sure what sort of video card > you have installed on your machine, but if you're going to be upgrading [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > resource intensive (by this, I mean your blu-ray movies may "skip" during > playback) without hardware acceleration. John,
I'm ok on the video front. I have an MSI 8800 GTX which *is* HDCP compliant. However, my Samsung SyncMaster 243T is *not.*
I am also going to switch to Vista 64-bit, as more players seem to work in Vista, and fewer drivers are coming out for x64. I expect *lots* of headaches, and few rewards, in the switch, but I feel as if I have no choice.
I would really like a new 2560 X 1500 monitor, but I can't afford that right now.
Thanks for your help! :-)
Jim
John Adams - 04 May 2008 17:06 GMT Honestly, I've had the best Windows experience ever with my Vista ultimate x64 system. I hope your experience is just as good!
- John
>> I'm glad you're working things out. I'm not sure what sort of video card >> you have installed on your machine, but if you're going to be upgrading [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Jim Colin Barnhorst - 04 May 2008 18:10 GMT What headaches do you expect? I have been running Vista Ultimate x64 for a year and a half and have not had any problems. You just need to check on Vista compatibility for your software and devices and prepare as needed. But that is no different than it was when moving from Win98 or W2k to XP back in the day.
On May 4, 12:01 am, "John Adams" <sea...@horadrim.net> wrote:
> I'm glad you're working things out. I'm not sure what sort of video card > you have installed on your machine, but if you're going to be upgrading [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > resource intensive (by this, I mean your blu-ray movies may "skip" during > playback) without hardware acceleration. John,
I'm ok on the video front. I have an MSI 8800 GTX which *is* HDCP compliant. However, my Samsung SyncMaster 243T is *not.*
I am also going to switch to Vista 64-bit, as more players seem to work in Vista, and fewer drivers are coming out for x64. I expect *lots* of headaches, and few rewards, in the switch, but I feel as if I have no choice.
I would really like a new 2560 X 1500 monitor, but I can't afford that right now.
Thanks for your help! :-)
Jim
Ken - 15 Jun 2008 07:03 GMT >> *does* work in Vista 64-bit, but it does *not* work in x64. Well their Tech support is wrong, PowerDVD does work with Windows Xp x64. I have been trying the powerdvd trial on XP x64 and it works fine.
WinDVD locks and freezes, idiots messed up something when the wrote this one. IT appears to lock up on the splash screen. Can't see any reason why this would not work on XP x64. Regular DVD's play fine on my computer. I would pass on WinDVD if they can't figure out the problem and get it to work on XP x64, chances are something else does not work quite right.
The PowerDVD playback video wise is Superb over a plain VGA cable to my 42inch plasma tv from my Sony Blu-Ray player (2x speed, I see no problems due to playback speed of the drive).
Only weird thing I see, is the popup menus would not respond to my mouse clicks. This only occured with the Blu-Ray disc I tried (spiderman 3). I put in a regular dvd (Serenity) and the menu responded fine to the mouse clicks. For the Blu-ray I had to use the keyboard to move around the menus.
Biggest drawback are the Audio options, very limited it seems and not necessarily the PowerDVD peoples problem, but it did not seem to recognize the actual format of the audio being played. Blu-Ray TrueHD was an option from the Spiderman 3 disc, but did not seem to be reflected in the PowerDVD audio options.
Audio in general is an issue as playback totally depends on your soundcard and audio format output. My soundblaster Fatality ends up outputting Dolby Pro Logic no matter what I do via the optical connection ( I have to look at my connection options).
No soundcard out there handles the HD formats for blu-ray and their audio range needs improvement. One manufacturer is looking to provide a board that does handle the new formats (Auzentech), but falls short (in my opinion) by totally fleshing out the HDMI card they are making to include DSD (and I don't mean just stereo DSD..Mutlichannel..please).
Link to article on new card
http://www.audiojunkies.com/blog/1054/auzentech-hdmi-xtension-soundcard
PaladinWxpX64 - 07 May 2008 13:00 GMT Maybe a simple question here:
This Corel WinDVD 9 version.... It is the ( Plus version right? The WinDVD 9 is for DVD only. The 9 Plus versio grants the additional Blu-ray support.
Btw. I did get WinDVD 9 Plus working on the Vista Ultimate x64 I have. You can try Cyberlinks version too. They even have a free trail version with Blu-ray support.
> I settled down to watch my first Blu-ray disc in x64, and I failed > miserably. I noticed Corel WinDVD has a new version for Blu-ray, so I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jim Jim - 08 May 2008 15:16 GMT On May 7, 7:00 am, PaladinWxpX64 <PaladinWxp...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Maybe a simple question here:
> This Corel WinDVD 9 version.... It is the ( Plus version right? > The WinDVD 9 is for DVD only. The 9 Plus versio grants the additional > Blu-ray support. It *was* the Plus version, which supports Blu-ray. The problem is my Samsung SyncMaster 243T monitor which does *not* support HDCP. I need an HDCP compliant monitor.
(Thank you for asking.)
> Btw. I did get WinDVD 9 Plus working on the Vista Ultimate x64 I have. > You can try Cyberlinks version too. They even have a free trail version with > Blu-ray support. Evidently CyberLink's version *is* compatible with Vista 64-bit but *not* with x64 64-bit. I switched to Vista Ultimate 64-bit over the past few days (another post), but I still do *not* have a HDCP compliant monitor.
I am looking for a 30" 2560 X 1600 DVI-D Dual-Link monitor that is HDCP complaint. There are not very many of them on the market. I was on the phone with HP LP3065 for an hour today, and I *never* reached anyone with a brain! I no longer want to buy HP!
Thank you! :-)
Jim
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