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Windows Forum / Windows XP / 64-bit / May 2008Messenger clients? What's everyone use?
Seeing as how Messenger Live won't run on x64 or on servers... > Seeing as how Messenger Live won't run on x64 or on servers... Really? http://www.techspot.com/blog/129/how-to-run-windows-live-messenger-on-windows-xp-x64/ THE INTERNET HAS LIED TO ME AGAIN! (actually I ran Live Messenger 8.5 on XP64 without issues thanks to this) Cool! So is RDP supported as well? TIA. On May 5, 11:14 am, "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SP...@cdir.ca> wrote: > Seeing as how Messenger Live won't run on x64 or on servers... Really? http://www.techspot.com/blog/129/how-to-run-windows-live-messenger-on-windows-xp-x64/ THE INTERNET HAS LIED TO ME AGAIN! (actually I ran Live Messenger 8.5 on XP64 without issues thanks to this) > Cool! > > So is RDP supported as well? RDP? You mean like remote assistance? This has no reason not to work, and isn't reliant on Messenger. Well yes and no. I've had to install Messenger 4.5 alongside a current version of Messenger in the past to get Remote Assistance/Desktop to work on Small Business Server. FWIW, I have to Remote Assistance on the version of Messenger that I have installed on x64 WXP Pro SP2. On May 5, 11:39 am, "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SP...@cdir.ca> wrote: > Cool! > > So is RDP supported as well? RDP? You mean like remote assistance? This has no reason not to work, and isn't reliant on Messenger. Remote Desktop is completely unrelated to messenger. And yes, XP x64 is "Professional", so it includes Remote Desktop. Home editions do not include RDP. Professional and server versions do. And XP x64 is definitely seen as an RWW endpoint in SBS - I'm an SBS user (and author) and couldn't live without it.  SignatureCharlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel > Well yes and no. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > RDP? You mean like remote assistance? This has no reason not to > work, and isn't reliant on Messenger. Inline. > Remote Desktop is completely unrelated to messenger. Really! OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's computer? And yes, XP x64 is > "Professional", so it includes Remote Desktop. Home editions do not > include RDP. Professional and server versions do. Understand! It's been like that forever. > And XP x64 is definitely seen as an RWW endpoint in SBS - I'm an SBS user > (and author) and couldn't live without it. Didn't mention RWW Charlie; and yes, I'm ALSO able to use RWW and to connect to my SBS2003 R2 server and workstations using RWW. BUT... <VBG>... I was asking about Messenger running on X64 WXP Pro and using Messenger to assist or take over a computer... got any suggestions? Thanks! >> Well yes and no. >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> RDP? You mean like remote assistance? This has no reason not to >> work, and isn't reliant on Messenger. > Inline. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's > computer? Any version could do that, but again, Remote Desktop isn't Remote Assistance. > BUT... <VBG>... I was asking about Messenger running on X64 WXP Pro and > using Messenger to assist or take over a computer... got any suggestions? Actually, you asked about messenger running on XP x64 or SBS. Be careful, or I'll "out" you to LanWench about running messenger on your server. ;-) Seriously, any version of messenger will do, and I was really responding to your "So is RDP supported as well" query. SubZero has pointed at a way to get messenger working, and that should do what you need. >> Inline. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > careful, or I'll "out" you to LanWench about running messenger on > your server. ;-) <evil booming laughter> Did someone mention my name? > Seriously, any version of messenger will do, and I was really > responding to your "So is RDP supported as well" query. SubZero has > pointed at a way to get messenger working, and that should do what > you need. ....and you don't need messenger to offer Remote Assistance from your SBS box to a domain member computer anyway. Moot point! Ah HA! Flushed a lurker out of the woodwork here. <G> Welcome to my "home" turf. Always a pleasure to have "newbies" here. <g,d,r> SignatureCharlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >>> Inline. >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > ....and you don't need messenger to offer Remote Assistance from your SBS > box to a domain member computer anyway. Moot point! >Ah HA! Flushed a lurker out of the woodwork here. <G> > >Welcome to my "home" turf. Always a pleasure to have "newbies" here. ><g,d,r> Hmmm, Charlie "Deathwish" Russel... <g> SignatureSteve Foster [SBS MVP] --------------------------------------- MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups. yeah, I think I may have hit Send a bit too quick. <G> SignatureCharlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >>Ah HA! Flushed a lurker out of the woodwork here. <G> >> >>Welcome to my "home" turf. Always a pleasure to have "newbies" here. >><g,d,r> > > Hmmm, Charlie "Deathwish" Russel... <g> > Ah HA! Flushed a lurker out of the woodwork here. <G> Crap. I knew I should've written in my secret invisible font. > Welcome to my "home" turf. Always a pleasure to have "newbies" here. > <g,d,r> You can't run fast enough, dude. >>>> Inline. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> ....and you don't need messenger to offer Remote Assistance from >> your SBS box to a domain member computer anyway. Moot point! Yeah, this bum knee really makes it tough. ;) SignatureCharlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >> Ah HA! Flushed a lurker out of the woodwork here. <G> > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >>> ....and you don't need messenger to offer Remote Assistance from >>> your SBS box to a domain member computer anyway. Moot point! Inline Charlie. >> Inline. >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Actually, you asked about messenger running on XP x64 or SBS. Be careful, > or I'll "out" you to LanWench about running messenger on your server. ;-) Oh no...<SHUDDERS> Actaully it was XP x64 and servers... guess that might mean SBS, <VBG> > Seriously, any version of messenger will do, and I was really responding > to your "So is RDP supported as well" query. SubZero has pointed at a way > to get messenger working, and that should do what you need. And actually if ALL you want to do is TYPE you're right although there are issues with some installers and getting Messenger installed. But it would seem R/A is NOT supported on x64 WXP. Regards. >Inline Charlie. > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >But it would seem R/A is NOT supported on x64 WXP. Remote Assistance is not part of Messenger. Messenger provides easy access *to* Remote Assistance, but you can do RA without Messenger (under All Programs > Remote Assistance on XP, and under All Programs > Maintenance > Windows Remote Assistance on Vista). I'm fairly sure RA is there in XP x64 (check the Remote tab of System Properties, same as you would for Remote Desktop), but you might find that Messenger is unable to "drive" it, possibly a casualty of the 32/64 bit interaction process. SignatureSteve Foster [SBS MVP] --------------------------------------- MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups. Messenger isn't required for remote assistance to work, but it's the way MS likes it to be done. Remote assistance invites are usually sent via messenger, but can also be sent via email. If you look up Remote Assistance in Help & Support it shows you how the invites can be sent. For just plain controlling a remote XP64 box, you don't need Messenger. Just have terminal services running. Control Panel- >System->Remote->"Allow users to remotely connect to this computer" and specify users. I *think* it works like XP32 Pro, where it only accepts one user and it locks the console. Control it whenever you want. > Inline. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's > computer? > Messenger isn't required for remote assistance to work, but it's the > way MS likes it to be done. Remote assistance invites are usually > sent via messenger, but can also be sent via email. If you look up > Remote Assistance in Help & Support it shows you how the invites can > be sent. But if you're logged into an SBS box (at the console or via RD) you can issue a remote assistance offer to any domain member machine without Messenger or e-mail. If I'm not using W2003 (help & support on one of the DCs will bring up the option to offer remote assistance; SBS has a link built in), I use a third party solution (www.techninline.net) - they have a special offer for MVPs if anyone wants to try. I listed this in the private newsgroups a while back. The price is good and it works like a champ, really. > For just plain controlling a remote XP64 box, you don't need > Messenger. Just have terminal services running. Control Panel- >> System->Remote->"Allow users to remotely connect to this computer" > and specify users. I *think* it works like XP32 Pro, where it only > accepts one user and it locks the console. Control it whenever you > want. Yep - that's Remote Desktop, which is great except for tech support. >> Inline. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's >> computer? Yeah, that's mostly right. Once you're on the domain you have access to all boxes. However, if you're trying to help out a stand alone X64 WXP that's a different story eh! <VBG> Regards! >> Messenger isn't required for remote assistance to work, but it's the >> way MS likes it to be done. Remote assistance invites are usually [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>> OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's >>> computer? > Yeah, that's mostly right. > > Once you're on the domain you have access to all boxes. > > However, if you're trying to help out a stand alone X64 WXP that's a > different story eh! <VBG> Techinline or other software/services....much easier. :-) > Regards! > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >>>> OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's >>>> computer? Guess I'll have to give email another try. Last time I tried that it wasn't as seamless as you make it sound. Thanks! Messenger isn't required for remote assistance to work, but it's the way MS likes it to be done. Remote assistance invites are usually sent via messenger, but can also be sent via email. If you look up Remote Assistance in Help & Support it shows you how the invites can be sent. For just plain controlling a remote XP64 box, you don't need Messenger. Just have terminal services running. Control Panel- >System->Remote->"Allow users to remotely connect to this computer" and specify users. I *think* it works like XP32 Pro, where it only accepts one user and it locks the console. Control it whenever you want. On May 6, 6:36 am, "Gary J. DIkkema" <gary_d-NO-SP...@cdir.ca> wrote: > Inline. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > OK, then how would I use Messenger to assist or take over someone's > computer? |
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