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using oe4 with ie5.5

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Rich - 16 Mar 2004 14:47 GMT
I find this setup the best since I've always liked oe4's less complex
interface, its quickness and also its ability to send to author and group
simultaneously. IE5.5 of course has no script errors generating the way IE4
does, so that is the only reason I dont use it. If anyone else hasn't tried
this, you should...it works great.
Jim Eshelman - 17 Mar 2004 01:52 GMT
> I find this setup the best since I've always liked oe4's less complex
> interface, its quickness and also its ability to send to author and
> group simultaneously. IE5.5 of course has no script errors generating
> the way IE4 does, so that is the only reason I dont use it. If anyone
> else hasn't tried this, you should...it works great.

The OE copy needs to match the IE copy to avoid problems.

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A1ex P1antema - 28 Mar 2004 20:45 GMT
>I find this setup the best since I've always liked oe4's less complex
>interface, its quickness and also its ability to send to author and group
>simultaneously. IE5.5 of course has no script errors generating the way IE4
>does, so that is the only reason I dont use it. If anyone else hasn't tried
>this, you should...it works great.

I use that combination too because I prefer OE 4 above newer versions.
It uses index files, which makes searching much faster.
It uses a separate directory for each newsserver, whereas OE 5 and 6 put everything in one directory, with the lists of mail folders and newsgroups in the same file, which makes it hard to restore old versions of mail or newsgroups only from a backup. OE 5 and 6 compress the mail in such a way that makes it difficult to read the folders with third party programs, and I read they sometimes mess things up.
I got a new computer with Windows XP, and I wonder if it's possible to keep using OE 4. I copied \Program Files\Outlook Express, but that doesn't work. It complains about missing files. The problem is that OE isn't a stand alone program, it's only available as a part of IE. I like it because it's simple and has a lot of possibilities that other programs don't have, e.g. I can see both the time a message is sent and received, I can look at a message source without opening the message, I can save a message to an eml file, edit it, and copy it back to a mail folder. Or is there another program with the same facilities?
I tried to import my mail from OE 4 to OE 6, but the account information gets lost, and I need it for sorting and filtering.

Alex.
Jim Pickering - 28 Mar 2004 23:54 GMT
On an XP platform, you cannot use OE4.  IE6 and OE6 are too closely
integrated to work without each other.

For the problem with importing your old OE4 mail, are the MBX and IDX files
in a folder called "Mail" w/o quotes and did you also include folders.nch?
See this link for info on importing OE4 mail messages into OE6:
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/faqs/how.htm#importOE4
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>>I find this setup the best since I've always liked oe4's less complex
>>interface, its quickness and also its ability to send to author and group
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>
> Alex.
A1ex P1antema - 29 Mar 2004 21:18 GMT
> On an XP platform, you cannot use OE4.  IE6 and OE6 are too closely
> integrated to work without each other.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> See this link for info on importing OE4 mail messages into OE6:
> http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/faqs/how.htm#importOE4

That's how I did it, but the result is an empty account column.
I think it's a serious error.

Alex.
Jim Pickering - 29 Mar 2004 22:15 GMT
You could download and run MBXtract (a free utility) to extract the contents
of your mbx files as eml files.  You can then drag/drop those eml files into
a local mail folder (but not the Inbox, please).  MBxtract and instructions
on use can be found at www.oehelp.com

Also, a problem could arise if you had copied the old files to a CD.  You
cannot import from a CD since those files are marked as Read-Only when they
are copied.  You would have to copy them to a local folder on your Desktop
(and the folder must be named "Mail" w/o quotes), selecting the files and
right clicking to select Properties and clear the read-only attribute.

Then while performing the import, do not point the wizard to the Mail folder
but to the folder above it, i.e., in the example above, you would point the
import wizard to the Desktop and not to the Mail folder.
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>> On an XP platform, you cannot use OE4.  IE6 and OE6 are too closely
>> integrated to work without each other.
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>
> Alex.
A1ex P1antema - 30 Mar 2004 07:09 GMT
Jim Pickering wrote in message ...

>You could download and run MBXtract (a free utility) to extract the contents
>of your mbx files as eml files.  You can then drag/drop those eml files into
>a local mail folder (but not the Inbox, please).  MBxtract and instructions
>on use can be found at www.oehelp.com

That doesn't help. The account information is not in the eml files.
Most people probably have never seen the account column.

Alex.
 
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