Windows Forum / Windows 95 / August 2004
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Clifton - 12 Jul 2004 17:16 GMT I want a 4x or better Internet Explorer for a W95 machine without a browser or a cdrom driver. Need IE to transfer files to another computer.Is there a way to get a minimum working IE in not too many floppy form. For example, are there some files I could choose from my IE6 that I could put to floppy and then to the ailing computer. PS a W95 boot disc suggested here in another thread would not boot.
Kay Archer - 12 Jul 2004 18:14 GMT > I want a 4x or better Internet Explorer for a W95 machine > without a browser or a cdrom driver. Need IE to transfer [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > boot disc suggested here in another thread would not > boot. Does it have to be IE? OffByOne runs from one floppy.
Make a selection here:
http://browsers.evolt.org/
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com - 12 Jul 2004 22:47 GMT The OffByOne suggestion did not work. Apparently IE is what is really needed. Great idea tho'.
>-----Original Message----- >> I want a 4x or better Internet Explorer for a W95 machine [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >. anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com - 12 Jul 2004 18:53 GMT I don't know if it has to be IE. Will try your idea.
>-----Original Message----- >I want a 4x or better Internet Explorer for a W95 machine [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >boot. >. MasterBlaster - 13 Jul 2004 13:02 GMT > I want a 4x or better Internet Explorer for a W95 machine > without a browser or a cdrom driver. Need IE to transfer [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > boot disc suggested here in another thread would not > boot. Sorry, I don't remember the "other thread".
W95 has several ways to connect to other computers. Does the 95 machine have a modem, LAN card, or what? Which computers are you trying to connect...yours (IE6) and one other (W95), or two others? Who has the files, and who needs them?
Where are they located...
- Across the room from each other?
Pull the needy system's hard drive, install it into the good one as a "slave", copy the files onto it, then put it back where you found it.
W95 has "Direct Cable Connection" that doesn't need a browser, using a serial or parallel "null-modem" cable plugged into both machines. All you need is the Windows Explorer file manager.
DOS can do the same with "Interlink" and the cable.
With a modem in each you can use a phone wire and a basic comm program.
- Across the street?
Hard drive as "slave", copy, put it back. Or modems, the telephone system, and a comm program.
- Across the country?
W95 should have "Hyperterminal", a reasonably functional program to at least get connected to the Net.
Or modems, the telephone system, a comm program, and long distance charges.
- Across the galaxy?
See if NASA has any shuttles going out that way.
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com - 13 Jul 2004 16:54 GMT W95 has modem, no web access( basic Juno only),no Internet Explore, failed cd drive. Want to transfer files from 95 to newe XP m/c which does have IE6. Another XP m/c is available, and 2 phone lines. Located across the room. I do not feel qualified to remove,install hard drive. I have the right cable, but the XP wizard says I need IE on the 95 m/c. The 95 does have hyperterminmal. How to use for this task?
>-----Original Message----- > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > >. MasterBlaster - 14 Jul 2004 23:59 GMT > W95 has modem, no web access( basic Juno only) The free, no surfing, email-only version?
Juno likely won't allow net access even if you do get a browser installed. Are the files small enough that you can e-mail them to yourself at the XP machine? Or does that version of Juno not allow attachments?
How big, and how many files to move? There's always the old "floppy shuffle"... Copy a file or 3 to floppy 1 in 95 machine. Move floppy 1 to XP, copy from floppy to XP HD. While it's doing that, copy a few more to floppy 2 on 95. Switch floppies, copy, switch, copy, switch, copy........
> I do not feel qualified to remove, install hard drive. It's not that hard. You basically have to unplug the power and data cables from the drive, take out 4 screws and slide it out, move a little jumper on the drive from Master to Slave, slide the drive into an available slot in the XP, plug in the power and data cables there, and turn on the XP. Usually the new machine will detect it with no problems. No guarantees, though. More jumper switching may be required.
> ,no Internet Explore, failed cd drive. Want to transfer files > from 95 to newe XP m/c which does have IE6. Another XP > m/c is available, and 2 phone lines. Located across the > room. Well, if you don't mind using the keyboard, I have an old (1996) DOS program that I've had and used for years. It can act as a mini-BBS, letting another computer call in and upload/download files. Lync 3.2a, only 80k (not 80mb) in self-extracting form.
Install it on the 95 machine, move all the files into whatever you designate as its "Send" folder, put it into "Host mode", then call it using the XP's version of hyperterminal.
Note: It does absolutely nothing to the registry. It doesn't know about long filenames. It has no idea what a mouse is. There's no pretty graphics or icons. It only uses real modems, not those stinking "Winmodems". It only transfers one file at a time. If there's a bunch, you may want to "ZIP" them into an archive first.
> I have the right cable, but the XP wizard says I need IE > on the 95 m/c. I don't have XP, but I've seen so many messages on the newsgroups from people trying (and failing) to network 95 and XP machines, I can't even begin to help with that.
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com - 15 Jul 2004 16:57 GMT Now there are a couple of great ideas to try before I have to get inside those machines. I will let you know.The PB part doesn't frighten me too much, but I don't feel at all comfortable with thje new one.
>-----Original Message----- > [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > >. anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com - 16 Jul 2004 18:34 GMT Can you help me find Linc 3.2a
>-----Original Message----- > [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > >. MasterBlaster - 17 Jul 2004 13:26 GMT > Can you help me find Linc 3.2a Sure. I uploaded it to my homepage. Shouldn't take more than a few minutes to "master" it. http://www3.telus.net/neatcrap/Lync32a.zip
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com - 18 Jul 2004 20:02 GMT Well, I got to neatcrap, but didn't see Linc32a.
>-----Original Message----- > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >. MasterBlaster - 19 Jul 2004 08:57 GMT > Well, I got to neatcrap, but didn't see Linc32a. http://www3.telus.net/neatcrap/Lync32a.zip
Just click on the link above, and it should start downloading. Or right-click it and pick "Save Target As...."
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com - 19 Jul 2004 17:05 GMT Sorry, the link was unclickable.
>-----Original Message----- > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >. MasterBlaster - 20 Jul 2004 00:25 GMT > Sorry, the link was unclickable. > >http://www3.telus.net/neatcrap/Lync32a.zip > > > >Just click on the link above, and it should start > downloading. Silly me. I assumed you were using an actual news reader, not that piece of cr*p MS "Community Newsgroups" thing.
Go back to neatcrap and look in the "various pictures..." area. I re-uploaded it. It should be item #4.
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com - 21 Jul 2004 17:43 GMT Tell me a newsgroup to go to get out of the cr*p. Thanks for bearing with me this far. I may have other questions, but first how do I open the file? I have the file downloaded to a floppy and installed on the 95 m/c, but I don't know what to "Open With"
>-----Original Message----- > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >. MasterBlaster - 22 Jul 2004 12:41 GMT > Tell me a newsgroup to go to get out of the cr*p. Thanks > for bearing with me this far. I may have other questions, > but first how do I open the file? I have the file > downloaded to a floppy and installed on the 95 m/c, but I > don't know what to "Open With" No WinZip or PkZip (PkUNzip, actually) on the computer? If not, I just uploaded the .EXE version to neatcrap, too.
Once you get it, or unzip the one you've got, run Lync32a.exe to auto-extract 7 more files. Read the docs, or just run Lync.exe and go for it.
Hit any key to get rid of the opening nag screen, Alt-O to configure the ports, send/receive folders, and various other options, and Alt-Q for "Host" mode. Alt-Z is the general help screen, and Alt-X to exit. All quite simple, really.
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com - 22 Jul 2004 17:16 GMT OK, all unzipped and I see the window to config with. Now I have to be away from these **&^$%#computers(95, xp I want to transfer files to, and XP with this conversation). I will try more progress in a week or so. The job will get done one way or another......Cliff
>-----Original Message----- > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >. MasterBlaster - 23 Jul 2004 12:38 GMT > OK, all unzipped and I see the window to config with. Now > I have to be away from these **&^$%#computers(95, xp I > want to transfer files to, and XP with this > conversation). I will try more progress in a week or so. > The job will get done one way or another......Cliff I'll be here. :)
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com - 02 Aug 2004 22:11 GMT OK; back at it. Hope you are still there. I can get at Alt-o, alt-q, alt-z, and alt-x. One step at a time: I don't see "send" in alt-o; and if I did, how to move files into it?
>-----Original Message----- > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >. MasterBlaster - 03 Aug 2004 15:02 GMT > OK; back at it. Hope you are still there. I can get at > Alt-o, alt-q, alt-z, and alt-x. One step at a time: I > don't see "send" in alt-o; I'm always here, and you didn't read "Lync.doc" yet, did you? :)
It's over on the right side, second item, "Filenames and Directories".
If you haven't yet, create a new folder under the one where you installed Lync. On mine, I installed to C:\Lync, and I also created C:\Lync\In and C:\Lync\Out. The actual names don't matter, as long as you put them in the "Filenames and Directories" area properly.
> and if I did, how to move files into it? The same way you normally would move a file. Use Windows Explorer to drag & drop, or copy & paste, or go to a DOS prompt and use "move" or "copy".
Of course, if all the files you want to move to the XP machine are already all in the same place on the W95 machine (like in C:\My Documents), you could just set Lync's "send" directory to that (using the 8-character DOS version of course)... In Lync, "C:\My Documents" becomes "C:\MyDocu~1" for the send directory.
To test if the "caller" (you on the XP machine) will be able to see the files in your send directory, do a "local logon" in Lync's Host Mode. Alt-Q then L. Type anything as your name, then F to see what's "available". G to "hang up", and Esc to quit Host Mode.
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com - 04 Aug 2004 17:42 GMT I don't see Lync.doc. A couple of the files are blank Wordpad documents. Also; I get Filenames and Directories up, but don't see "Send" or how to add it there. This site is hard to work with. Sometimes I get message not available. How about doing this by regular Email, at least until you lose patience with me.
>-----Original Message----- > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >. MasterBlaster - 06 Aug 2004 10:21 GMT > I don't see Lync.doc. A couple of the files are blank > Wordpad documents. The first 25 lines of Lync.doc are blank. Did you scroll down? Here's what you should have in the folder where you unzipped it:
LYNC.EXE 37,820 04-10-96 12:08a - The terminal program LYNC.DOC 84,201 04-01-96 9:44p - The operations manual README.DOC 2,338 04-01-96 9:44p - A file list and blurb about Lync. REGISTER.DOC 2,269 04-01-96 9:45p - The registration form LYNC32A.EXE 80,088 05-02-96 2:11p - The compressed archive. LYNCFFC.EXE 6,524 04-10-96 12:12a - File Format Conversion utility 60LINES.COM 573 03-17-91 5:37p - 60 lines/page reformat utility WHATSNEW.DOC 17,016 04-01-96 9:48p - What's new in Lync 3.2a
> Also; I get Filenames and Directories > up, but don't see "Send" or how to add it there. Use the arrow keys under your right hand.
Here's how I just did a totally fresh install, with only the LYNC32a.EXE archive in an otherwise empty folder. It took less than 2 minutes.....
(PS: It's a DOS program. It calls them Directories, Windows calls them Folders, but it's all the same thing).
Highlight the folder name where the archive is. Click File / New / Folder. Name it "send" (or whatever). Highlight the folder name again. Click File / New / Folder. Name it "receive" (or whatever).
Double-click LYNC32a.EXE
Answer Y, close the window when it's done.
Double-click LYNC.EXE It should go directly to the "Alt-O" configuration screen if this is the very first time it's been run.
(Alt+Enter for full-screen if you like)
Top line, hit (Enter) to set the com port where your modem is.
(Down Arrow) one line, (Enter) to set "baud" (57600 is adequate).
(Right Arrow) to Filenames & Directories.
(Enter) to get the settings window.
First line is "Default Directory To SEND Files From". (Enter) to type in the FULL "send" directory's name. (not just "send", but "C:\lync\send"), (Enter) to finish.
(Down Arrow) to get "Default Directory To RECEIVE Files To". (Enter) to type in the "receive" directory name.
(Esc) to close settings window.
(Left Arrow), (Down Arrows) to Modem Initialization. (Changing it to AT&F^M should work for now)
"S" to save all settings.
(Enter) to clear nag screen.
Modem should initialize, and return "OK".
ATH1 (Enter) should make the modem pick up the phone line.
ATH (Enter) should make it hang up.
If it doesn't say OK, and the modem doesn't seem to be responding to anything, use Alt-O to go to configuration, and try a different com port.
If none of them work, you likely have a WINmodem (barf) and Lync won't work.
> This site is hard to work with. Sometimes I get message > not available. How about doing this by regular Email, at > least until you lose patience with me. bigwiggly@hotmail.com
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