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trish@utsws.com - 30 Dec 2003 21:01 GMT
Hi there. I have a notebook, that I just now got Win2000
off of by using a Win98 bootdisk. Did format c:\...now I
am stuck.
I really want to install Win95 on this notebook and this
thing has the removeable disk drives, for the floppy & cd-
rom.
So I have a Win98 boot disk that is working & formatted
C:......can access C:...but can't do anything else to
it..when I change to the cd-rom it won't see the cd...I
do get a D:\...but nothing happens.
Any suggestions???
Jeff Richards - 30 Dec 2003 21:31 GMT
If you can't see the CD-ROM drive then the boot disk is incomplete.  In any
case a W98 bootdisk is not much use for installing W95.  Get a utility to
make a new one from www.bootdisk.com.  Watch carefully for the drive letter
that is assigned to the CD - it is probably R.

If you are saying that the laptop has a floppy _or_ cd-rom, then the process
is more complicated. You need to copy the contents of the boot floppy from A
to C and then edit CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT to change all references to
A:\ to C:\, then do SYS C: and reboot to hard disk with the CD-ROM drive
inserted instead of the floppy.  Be sure to rename CONFIG.SYS and
AUTOEXEC.BAT when the installation is complete.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98

> Hi there. I have a notebook, that I just now got Win2000
> off of by using a Win98 bootdisk. Did format c:\...now I
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> do get a D:\...but nothing happens.
> Any suggestions???
trish@utsws.com - 30 Dec 2003 21:54 GMT
I can go to D: & the drive is there (no invalid drive)
but can't get to read the cd. Anyway, I am saying this
notebook has either OR a disk drive or cd-room...by
changing them out....
I have tried & tried making a boot disk at
www.bootdisk.com for Windows 95...and it's just not
working for me...
Tried copying all the files to the c: drive & booting to
c:...but I get an invalid system disk error....

Any other suggestions??? Or where else I can find a boot
disk..
Thanks so much  : )

>-----Original Message-----
>If you can't see the CD-ROM drive then the boot disk is incomplete.  In any
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Jeff Richards - 30 Dec 2003 22:09 GMT
Drive D is probably not the CD-ROM - what message was displayed on-screen at
boot time about the drive letter assigned to the CD-ROM?

What problem are you running into using the w95 boot disk utility?

You cannot make a hard drive bootable simply by copying files onto it.  You
need to execute the SYS C: command I mentioned.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98

> I can go to D: & the drive is there (no invalid drive)
> but can't get to read the cd. Anyway, I am saying this
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> disk..
> Thanks so much  : )
trish@utsws.com - 30 Dec 2003 22:44 GMT
I understand that I need to edit files, etc...but I
haven't done that in years...but I do think I did what
would be needed....at any rate..I'd rather try to get a
bootable 95 disk from somewhere...from
www.bootdisk.com...the file I want is Win95 and after I
down load to a floppy & open it..it runs a batch file
then asks for another floppy...and then just quits...I
can't get anywhere with it...
Just now I pushed just enough buttons on this thing to
get Windows 95 to start loading then it came up with a
system error trying read drive A:....which I was not
trying to read....now, I'm stuck where I was...A:...
and C: nothing.....
anything else???

>-----Original Message-----
>Drive D is probably not the CD-ROM - what message was displayed on-screen at
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trish@utsws.com - 30 Dec 2003 22:55 GMT
Tried something different with the boot disk deal...seems
ok...for now...I'll let you know how far I get..thank
you...so much

>-----Original Message-----
>I understand that I need to edit files, etc...but I
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trish@utsws.com - 30 Dec 2003 23:21 GMT
Ok...I've got the boot disk now working...but it doesn't
have a good cd rom driver on it I guess. Something
called 'banana'??? in the config.sys, autoexec.bat
files...I'm WAY out of practice on those files...
What else would you suggest I do???

>-----Original Message-----
>Tried something different with the boot disk deal...seems
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Sandgroper - 31 Dec 2003 05:43 GMT
> Ok...I've got the boot disk now working...but it doesn't
> have a good cd rom driver on it I guess. Something
> called 'banana'??? in the config.sys, autoexec.bat
> files...I'm WAY out of practice on those files...
> What else would you suggest I do???

The boot disk has 4 options for a generic CD Rom driver  on it , CD1.SYS
...... CD4.SYS  the name banana is just a noticeable optional name that is
displayed on the screen for the driver.

What you need to do is to try each driver option to see which one works for
you , you do this by editing the config.sys file and replace the CD driver
cd*.sys with any other of the drivers cd1.sys ...... cd4.sys
The first driver statement in the config.sys file usually works , but you
have the other options that could be needed , these other statements have
been commented out by using the "Rem" statement .
If you need to try these extra optional settings , just remove the "Rem" in
front of the statement and replace with the driver name that suits your
system.

------------------------------------------------------
Config.sys  - replace CD driver with  cd1.SYS ..... cd4.SYS

DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS /testmem:off
FILES=30
BUFFERS=20

DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana

rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:1f0,14
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:170,15
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:170,10
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:1e8,12
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:1e8,11
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:168,10
rem DEVICE=cd1.SYS /D:banana /P:168,9

LASTDRIVE=Z
-------------------------------------------------------
The autoexec.bat file doesn't need to be edited in this case because it
loads the generic DOS CD  driver,  MSCDEX.EXE

HTH

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Sandgroper
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Ben Myers - 31 Dec 2003 23:39 GMT
If  you are trying to install Windows 95, start the computer
with the boot disk, insert the Windows 95 CD and type

R:\win95\setup.exe

and press "Enter".

Ben

> Ok...I've got the boot disk now working...but it doesn't
> have a good cd rom driver on it I guess. Something
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> >.
trish@utsws.com - 02 Jan 2004 19:15 GMT
I'm back at this problem again. I could do what you
suggest but....this is a notebook computer...and it has
either a floppy drive or cd rom...not both at the same
time....so I am booting to a: with the boot disk & then
it doesn't know it has a cd rom is there.
How can I boot to C:\ now???

>-----Original Message-----
>If  you are trying to install Windows 95, start the computer
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>
>"trish@utsws.com" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:02b301c3cf2b$9e4c9bf0
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>> Ok...I've got the boot disk now working...but it doesn't
>> have a good cd rom driver on it I guess. Something
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Ben Myers - 02 Jan 2004 23:42 GMT
Start the notebook with the bootdisk, then type the
following two lines:

copy  /y  a:\  c:\
sys  c:

Remove the floppy drive, install the CD drive and restart.
Please note the CD drive will probably be assigned drive
letter "R:".  If so, try "R:\win95\setup.exe" again.

Ben

> I'm back at this problem again. I could do what you
> suggest but....this is a notebook computer...and it has
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