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Kelly - 01 Feb 2004 06:45 GMT
I'm running win 95, when I start my computer it stops at
the system configurations screen and at the bottom of the
screen it says "DISK BOOT FAILURE INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND
PRESS ENTER" My back up disks don't do anything when I
put them in the computer.  My win 95 cd says "my computer
is running a newer version of 95". I downloaded a floppy
boot disk from www.bootdisk.com, put it in the bad
computer and hit enter, I got the same error message.  I
put the boot disk in my new computer and it said that it
was an invalid program.?  
Can anyone help me with this? Thanks in advance for your
help.

Kelly
Ben Myers - 01 Feb 2004 18:54 GMT
Start the computer and watch the screen closely for something like
"Press delete for setup".  Press the appropriate key, find "Boot
Sequence" and make sure it is set to "A: then C:".  Be sure to save
any changes when exiting.  Also, the downloads at the www.bootdisk.com
site are programs that you download and double-click on a working
computer.  They will not work if you simply copy them to a floppy.

Ben

> I'm running win 95, when I start my computer it stops at
> the system configurations screen and at the bottom of the
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> Kelly
Kelly - 02 Feb 2004 07:02 GMT
Thanks, but that did not help anything, In the boot
sequence setup, I have "A, C, SCSI".  Can't do just A,C,
what is the SCSI for?  I will try to download again from
Bootdisk.com, I did double click the floppy, but no
response from the other computer.  Should I have the
floppy in before turning on the computer, or wait until
the error message comes up?
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>Start the computer and watch the screen closely for something like
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Jeff Richards - 02 Feb 2004 21:10 GMT
Whether or not SCSI is listed third in the sequence will make no difference.
The boot floppy must be inserted in the drive before the machine is switched
on.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98
> Thanks, but that did not help anything, In the boot
> sequence setup, I have "A, C, SCSI".  Can't do just A,C,
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> floppy in before turning on the computer, or wait until
> the error message comes up?
Ben Myers - 03 Feb 2004 01:30 GMT
The idea is to download the appropriate program from the
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm site to the hard
drive of a working computer, then double-click it.  You
will be prompted for a floppy.  
"A, C, SCSI" is fine.
Insert the floppy before starting the computer and when you
get an "A:\>" prompt, type "fdisk  /status" and repost with
the results.  Also try "scandisk  c:".

Ben

> Thanks, but that did not help anything, In the boot
> sequence setup, I have "A, C, SCSI".  Can't do just A,C,
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> >.
Kelly - 03 Feb 2004 07:48 GMT
That did not work either.  I must be doing something
severely wrong.  Just put me in the same group as
computers for idiot's.  
Thanks for your time and effort.
Kelly
>-----Original Message-----
>The idea is to download the appropriate program from the
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Ben Myers - 04 Feb 2004 02:46 GMT
Please repost with more information, including whether the
file downloaded, whether you were able to find the file and
what it did when you double-clicked it.

Ben

> That did not work either.  I must be doing something
> severely wrong.  Just put me in the same group as
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Kelly - 06 Feb 2004 23:15 GMT
I downloaded a file called boot95a (and b)from the
bootdisk site to my working computer, download was
complete, I double clicked, when asked for floppy, I put
one in the A drive, the computer showed it copied the
files, I then opened the files on the disk on the good
computer, I saw the list of files on the floppy.  I then
closed the floppy, and took it out of the good computer
and put it in the bad computer and turned on the power,
it still stops at the system configuration screen and
says "boot disk failure, insert system disk and press
enter." Maybe I'm not downloading the right file?

Kelly
>-----Original Message-----
>Please repost with more information, including whether the
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Ben Myers - 07 Feb 2004 01:46 GMT
Go into the BIOS setup on the problem computer and make
sure that "A:" is configured as a 1.44 megabyte 3.5
inch drive.  Also, make sure the boot sequence is still set to
"A, C, SCSI".  Be sure to save any changes when exiting.

Ben

> I downloaded a file called boot95a (and b)from the
> bootdisk site to my working computer, download was
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> >.
Kelly - 16 Feb 2004 05:09 GMT
I did that, However I noticed that the Primary Master and
Primary Slave types had changed, so I did the auto detect
and restarted teh computer, I now get the message "Disk
I/O error, replace the disk and then press any key".
Also in the BIOS screen when I was checking the boot
sequence, I noticed there is a "Boot up floppy seek"
which is set on enabled. and a "virus warning? set to
disabled.  Should either of those be changed?

Kelly
>-----Original Message-----
>Go into the BIOS setup on the problem computer and make
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Jeff Richards - 16 Feb 2004 06:55 GMT
BIOS virus warning should be enabled unless you are doing low level disk
work like partitioning or a Windows installation.  So leave it disabled
until you get things sorted out, then enable it.

Floppy seek doesn't matter. Having it on slows the boot process slightly and
raises the possibility of a faulty floppy drive halting the boot, but it
also ensures the drive is detected correctly.

Any change in BIOS settings for disk type creates a possibility of the
system not being able to read the drives. Auto Detect _should_ always return
the same information, but if it doesn't then the drives may become
inaccessible until settings are returned to what they were.
Signature

Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98

> I did that, However I noticed that the Primary Master and
> Primary Slave types had changed, so I did the auto detect
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Ben Myers - 18 Feb 2004 22:47 GMT
As mentioned by another poster, the "floppy seek" and "virus
warning" settings are probably not causing the problem.  If
the boot floppy works in other computers and the boot sequence
of the problem computer is "A, C, SCSI", then the computer is
not reading the boot floppy.  Possible causes are a bad floppy
drive and loose or reversed floppy drive cables.

Ben

> I did that, However I noticed that the Primary Master and
> Primary Slave types had changed, so I did the auto detect
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Kelly - 26 Feb 2004 08:37 GMT
Thanks to everyone with all the suggestions.  I'm pretty
sure now I have a bad floppy drive.  

Thanks again for your time and patience.
Kelly
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>As mentioned by another poster, the "floppy seek" and "virus
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Daniel - 12 Mar 2004 06:00 GMT
Kelly,
Maybe that I missed something, but the floopy disk that you copied the
stuff you downloaded from Bootdisk to does have the system files on it,
doesn't it?

Daniel

> Thanks to everyone with all the suggestions.  I'm pretty
> sure now I have a bad floppy drive.  
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Haggis - 09 Feb 2004 16:22 GMT
do you see the floppy drive light come on and try to read the disk? if the
drive itself is not working , it will continue to try and boot from "c:"

SCSI =small computer systems interface

(just a different type of harddrive)

> I downloaded a file called boot95a (and b)from the
> bootdisk site to my working computer, download was
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> >.
Kelly - 16 Feb 2004 04:56 GMT
When I turn the computer on, the CD ROM light comes on
first, then the floppy drive light comes on then goes off
real quick, I can hear the floppy make some kind of
noise, but that's when the computer stops and gives me
the disk boot failure.  Maybe my floppy drive is no
good.  

Kelly
>-----Original Message-----
>do you see the floppy drive light come on and try to read the disk? if the
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Jeff Richards - 16 Feb 2004 06:56 GMT
To see if the floppy is part of the problem, set it to NONE in BIOS device
settings and try to boot.
Signature

Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98

> When I turn the computer on, the CD ROM light comes on
> first, then the floppy drive light comes on then goes off
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> >.
Juan B. Rivera - 03 Feb 2004 03:21 GMT
As to SCSI, it stands for Small Computer Systems Interface, and it is a
high-speed parallel interface standard for many peripherals, such as hard
drives, scanners, laser printers, modems, etc; somewhat like a cross among
IDE, Centronics (IEE1284) and USB. Hewlett-Packard used it a lot. It is
still used in servers and high-performance computers, because it is faster
than IDE and handles many peripherals as a Daisy Chain and hard drive
geometry is user-transparent, this means no cylinders, tracks or sectors to
detect in order to use more than two drives in RAID (Redundant Array of
Independent Disks) configuration, to insure data integrity in case of a bad
sector being encountered.

> Thanks, but that did not help anything, In the boot
> sequence setup, I have "A, C, SCSI".  Can't do just A,C,
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> >> Kelly
> >.
 
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