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Walbeehm's classic "Windows Updates" site disappeared

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Young Coot - 07 Mar 2004 21:56 GMT
Greetings -

just re-checked my bookmarks on a web site I maintain, and one of them was
to Ben Jos Walbeehm's lengthy and invaluable discertation on Windows 95
updates.  That page, the accompanying Windows 98 page, and the entire site,
has been replaced with the simple words, "move along - nothing here".

Folks, we have lost a classic and very useful web site.  Most won't pay it
any mind, as they have enough on their plate (like no job, etc.), but this
must not pass without some mention about how truly valuable this site was,
and the huge impact it had on many of us who were struggling with Windows
foibles and trying to find updates that would hopefully fix whatever ailed
it.

I've been looking for a mirror lurking out there someplace that might have a
copy of this page, but so far I've found nothing.  The last Google web crawl
back in February removed the archived copy that they had.  There was a site
that featured old versions of archived web pages, and at some point I'll
find that bookmark that I made of it when I found it (years ago now).

Just wanted to pay my respects.  Ben Jos, your contribution to Windowdom is
deeply appreciated.

YC
glee - 08 Mar 2004 03:18 GMT
I imagine with Win95 no longer being supported, that Ben Jos found little use in maintaining the site any longer.  

He appears to be concentrating on having a good time these days:
http://tips.retrogames.com/gallery/benjos.html
and
http://tips.retrogames.com/
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Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

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Lee - 08 Mar 2004 06:38 GMT
>Greetings -
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>YC

Hi,
I agree.  But as said "move along - nothing here" seems to apply to
Win95.  On this Celeron 300A Win95 is a fast/stable and efficient OS
meaning I can run on a 1.2G Hdrive with plenty of room left over for
apps/files.

Loaded Win2Kpro in this machine to learn the OS (added a 4 gig Hdrive
of course) and have been agast at the bloat and file overhead.  \WINNT
has 7000+ files , 960 Megs and I have already deleted many megs of
unneeded files !  Another 100 megs in Program Files\Common Files. The
registry alone is 15+ megs.  Win95 could install complete under 50
megs.

But consider the current situation. A few hundered dollars will get a
new system with a processor 8 times as fast as this and a hardrive 60
times as large.

Over the last year and 1/2 I've come to appreciate the advanced
features of NT5 and NT5.1  (2k and XP) and having upgraded this system
with a cheap used 1.2 g hertz Celeron and 40 g drive I again have a
reasonably fast system in spite of Win2K.

The point is anyone with a old Win95 box is money ahead to toss it
into the recycle bin and move on.  I've got an old P75 with Win95a on
it in the back room complete with printer/modem/monitor that  I bought
for $25. As an antique :-)  I'm going to find a first rate 386 based
Win 3.11 system soon while they're still in existance ! I'm not sure I
could even find an old Apple IIe any more (still working that is).

I can think of only a few special situations with legacy hardware or
software when anyone would have a need to stay with Win95. Laptops
mainly.  Otherwise the hardware/software is hardly worth the cost of
troubleshooting.

I used to have Ben's site spidered to my Hardrive (remember when 28K
modems were fast ?) but deleted it long ago..  If you find an archive
would you post the URL here ?

Thanks,
Lee
glee - 08 Mar 2004 14:34 GMT
I have the page archived on my hard drive, but without any graphics included....blank boxes where the images go.
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Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

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Hugh Candlin - 08 Mar 2004 17:56 GMT
> Greetings -
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> I've been looking for a mirror lurking out there someplace that might have a
> copy of this page, but so far I've found nothing.

Not a mirror, but these may help

http://thpc.info/upd/win95upd.html

http://www.usbman.com/Win95%20USB%20Guide.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/downloads/Default.asp
Mr. Plop - 09 Mar 2004 20:30 GMT
> Greetings -
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> that featured old versions of archived web pages, and at some point I'll
> find that bookmark that I made of it when I found it (years ago now).

The http://web.archive.org site still has a mirror of the website. Keep in
mind that any active content is not archived. Also any links on the page
have to be shortened as the have the web archive address in front.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030603180450/http://www.walbeehm.com/win95upd.html
Young Coot - 10 Mar 2004 01:17 GMT
That's what I was hoping was still out there somewhere!

Thanks for sharing that - this is one "ghost in the machine" that I hope
doesn't disappear too fast.

YC

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> mind that any active content is not archived. Also any links on the page
> have to be shortened as the have the web archive address in front.

http://web.archive.org/web/20030603180450/http://www.walbeehm.com/win95upd.html
Unimportant - 18 Mar 2004 17:38 GMT
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>YC

Thank you. I won't go into the reasons for deleting that page and
everything else from my site. But, as someone said, Windows 95 (and
Windows 98) are old. And as long as I was still using those operating
systems myself somewhere, keeping things up to date was a lot easier.

I still have a copy of my 95 and 98 pages on my hard drive. If someone
wants to continue what I started and maintained for so long, contact
me. I prefer to give it to someone whose name I remember from many
years ago when I was still active in these forums. This is the first
time in a long time I'm looking at this forum and there's no guarantee
I will look at it again soon. So e-mail me if you're interested in
adopting and updating those pages. And if you want to be sure I
actually get the e-mail without it being deleted as spam, do not send
it to my main address. Send it to my Hotmail address instead. The
userID is my last name...

BJW.
 
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