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Real Bad Registry Problems!!

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Pat - 03 Apr 2004 03:03 GMT
I dont know if this is a lost cause or not but here it
goes. I have an old Packard Bell with a  pentium pro
(233mhz) and i am runngin with windows 95. It is my old
computer and know that I have a new one I am hoping to
fix this one. We bought from some friends several years
ago and it worked great for the first month. Then it came
up with a ton of registry errors and winword errors. I
tried regclean and other fixes but nothing really helped.
It is so bad right know that the Desktop icons dont
appear and the message " File path too long" Comes up. I
can get into task manager but I can no longer get to my
files from there. I have tried the Packard bell master cd
and the Win95 disk. Is there any way to clear the
registry and start over complety? We would like to put
office 2000 on it since our new computer has Xp. Please
any suggestions you have are greatly appreciated because
the computer is not doing any good sitting around. I am
just trying to fix it.
glee - 03 Apr 2004 04:45 GMT
Please supply the exact error messages in their entirety, and when they occur.
If you get an "illegal operation" error message, click the "Details" button, and post back with the exact details word for word, up to but not including the 'registers'.

Registry errors are often due to faulty memory (RAM).
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> I dont know if this is a lost cause or not but here it
> goes. I have an old Packard Bell with a  pentium pro
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> the computer is not doing any good sitting around. I am
> just trying to fix it.
Bill Starbuck - 03 Apr 2004 13:31 GMT
>Is there any way to clear the
>registry and start over complety?

As Glen told you, you need to be aware that the problem may be due to
defective hardware. That said, first, go to the Microsoft
KnowledgeBase

(http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/131/4/31.asp)

And follow the instructions in document 131431, "How to Troubleshoot
Registry Errors".

If those procedures do not correct the problem, try installing Windows
into an empty folder "How to Reinstall Windows 95 to a New Folder"
[142096].

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/142/0/96.asp

Bill Starbuck (MVP)
Src57 - 03 Apr 2004 19:51 GMT
You have a bad memory RAM stick in the computer. When windows boots
the registry is loaded into RAM before windows actually loads. If you have
bad memory the registry will appear corrupted to windows. Hence those
errors you see.
Gerry Voras - 05 Apr 2004 17:48 GMT
Is there anything on the unit that you want saved?  If not, I'd recommend
fdisking/formatting and starting over again.

> I dont know if this is a lost cause or not but here it
> goes. I have an old Packard Bell with a  pentium pro
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> the computer is not doing any good sitting around. I am
> just trying to fix it.
cquirke (MVP Win9x) - 06 Apr 2004 12:30 GMT
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 18:03:06 -0800, "Pat"

>I dont know if this is a lost cause or not but here it
>goes. I have an old Packard Bell with a  pentium pro
>(233mhz) and i am runngin with windows 95.

<siren>  Fuzzy input alert!!  </siren>

Pentium Pro was 200MHz, Pentium II started from 233MHz (there was to
be a PII-200 but it was dropped when discovered to be slower than the
PPro-200 - 256k full-speed L2 vs. 512k half-speed L2 of the PII).

So... is that a PII-233, a PPro-200, or really a PPro-233 that AFAIK
doesn't exist?  As P.Bell's profile in the hi-end workstation market
was scanty at best, I'd guess PII-233

>It is my old computer and know that I have a new one I
>am hoping to fix this one.

>We bought from some friends several years ago

Sounds cool, I could do with some; where from?

>and it worked great for the first month. Then it came
>up with a ton of registry errors and winword errors. I
>tried regclean and other fixes but nothing really helped.

Step 1: Exclude hardware defects
 - test RAM (www.memtester86.com, www.simmtester.com)
 - check fans, exclude overclocking
 - check HD for defects (go HD vendor's web site etc.)

Step 2: Exclude active malware
 - see http://users.iafrica.com/c/cq/cquirke/virtest.htm
 - rely on Windows-based av (in this context) at your own risk
 - also scan for commercial malware; Spybot, Ad-Aware

Step 3: Only now is it worthwhile starting to think
 - start by preserving your registry autobackups (RB*.CAB)
 - use MSConfig to suppress autorunning sware, re-test
 - see Scandisk/ChkDsk and av logs for what's been "fixed"

BTW: It's worth mentioning that anything wrong at the Step 1 level is
likely to bit-rot the system whenever you are in Windows.  So until
you've sorted the Step 1 stuff, best not run Windows at all.

>It is so bad right know that the Desktop icons dont
>appear and the message " File path too long" Comes up.

Hm, that's interesting...

>Is there any way to clear the registry and start over complety?

Yes, but it's a waste of time if problems at the Step 1 or even Step 2
levels are still in effect.

>We would like to put Office 2000 on it since new computer has Xp.

Office XP, or Windows XP?

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Sc57 - 09 Apr 2004 03:21 GMT
> Pentium Pro was 200MHz, Pentium II started from 233MHz (there was to
> be a PII-200 but it was dropped when discovered to be slower than the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> doesn't exist?  As P.Bell's profile in the hi-end workstation market
> was scanty at best, I'd guess PII-233

There was also a Pentium 233 MMX Socket 7 CPU. I know because
I have two of them in a box somewhere. Here is a good site that has
pictures and specs for various CPU's.

Pentium MMX
http://cpu-museum.de/?m=Intel&f=Pentium-MMX+%28P55C%29

Pentium PRO
cquirke (MVP Win9x) - 09 Apr 2004 12:20 GMT
>"cquirke (MVP Win9x)" <cquirkenews@nospam.mvps.org> wrote in message

>> Pentium Pro was 200MHz, Pentium II started from 233MHz (there was to
>> be a PII-200 but it was dropped when discovered to be slower than the
>> PPro-200 - 256k full-speed L2 vs. 512k half-speed L2 of the PII).

>> So... is that a PII-233, a PPro-200, or really a PPro-233 that AFAIK
>> doesn't exist?  As P.Bell's profile in the hi-end workstation market
>> was scanty at best, I'd guess PII-233

>There was also a Pentium 233 MMX Socket 7 CPU. I know because
>I have two of them in a box somewhere.

Yes, I used to run one of those as my main PC until a couple of years
back, when my motherboard died!  Strange I should forget!

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anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com - 10 Apr 2004 01:27 GMT
I kind of miss spoke. Its a platinum Pro XXI (150). I
wasnt thinking. I don't have internet access on that
computer so it is hard for me to get help from some of
the sites you listed. I am better off to format and start
over? Thanks.
>-----Original Message-----
>On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 18:03:06 -0800, "Pat"
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cquirke (MVP Win9x) - 10 Apr 2004 12:50 GMT
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 17:27:29 -0700,

>I kind of miss spoke. Its a platinum Pro XXI (150). I
>wasnt thinking. I don't have internet access on that
>computer so it is hard for me to get help from some of
>the sites you listed. I am better off to format and start
>over? Thanks.

No - the whole point is that "formatting and starting over" is going
to be a waste of time if there are hardware-level issues.

A Pentium-150 is old enough for some hardware issues to be likely;
failing HD, failing processor or PSU fans, dust-packed processor heat
sink, flat CMOS battery, and so on.

It's also slim shoulders to run MS Office 2000   :-(

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