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Windows Forum / Windows 95 / May 2005How do I adjust monitor color in Windows? New monitor is pale or washed out looking.
I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the monitor itself to do this. The monitor is an HP mx705. It's a Dell PC. I forgot how to make these adjustments and had no luck with Google. Thanks. >I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I >remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the >monitor itself to do this. The monitor is an HP mx705. It's a Dell PC. I forgot how to >make these adjustments and had no luck with Google. What are the control buttons on the front of the monitor for? How about looking into Control Panel, Display, and the graphics card controls? >>I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I >>remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >about looking into Control Panel, Display, and the graphics card >controls? I don't see anything in the Display Properties. The controls on the front of the monitor are for brightness, contrast, moire, degauss and adjusting the shape of the picture like pincushion, trapezoid, etc. There's also something called color temperature. I changed it from 9300 to 6500 and it makes a big difference but the color still doesn't look right. It's still washed out. The colors are very dull. Not rich at all. I might return this monitor and get an LCD since all CRTs that I can find are crap. It will be worth the 15% restocking charge. Have you ever used software that is supposed to calibrate your monitor? I don't know anything about them or even what they do. I'll have to read about it. Thanks. > >>I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I > >>remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > restocking charge. Have you ever used software that is supposed to calibrate your monitor? > I don't know anything about them or even what they do. I'll have to read about it. Thanks. "...all CRTs that I can find are crap." You're looking in the wrong place(s). While LCD technology is newer, there are still some great CRT monitors on the market. Notan >> >>I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I >> >>remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >You're looking in the wrong place(s). While LCD technology is newer, >there are still some great CRT monitors on the market. Can you list a few that are for sale and tell me where they are selling them? I'll return the hunk o' crap I have now and get a good one if I can find one. >Notan Honestly, I would not buy any computer or monitor with the HP brand name on it. Dell seems to have good monitors produced for them. I recently bought over 30 of them from a company that got acquired. I tested them first, and rejected a lemon or two. I had no trouble selling them either direct or thru another reseller, and everyone who bought one direct from me is very happy with their monitor. These are 4-year old Dells, and the newer ones are just as good. Now I have two left to sell. Other decent brands are Sun (newer SVGAs only), NEC, Sony and the IBM P-series monitors. I've also dealt with some good quality Compaq-branded monitors. HP seems to have preserved the Compaq brand name for the better stuff, the HP name for junk. Finally, Viewsonic monitors are OK by me. There is no sense buying a monitor for short money in a mass market store like Best Buy or Circuit City. Mass market equates to cheaply made these days. Spend a few more bucks and get something with good quality, easy on the eyes. You only get one pair of eyes in this life... Ben Myers >>> >>I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I >>> >>remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >>Notan >Honestly, I would not buy any computer or monitor with the HP brand name on it. Me neither but it was the best CRT I could find in a store. There's very little selection. >Dell seems to have good monitors produced for them. I recently bought over 30 >of them from a company that got acquired. I tested them first, and rejected a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >seems to have preserved the Compaq brand name for the better stuff, the HP name >for junk. Finally, Viewsonic monitors are OK by me. Some of them may be decent. The Compaq I looked at in the store was worse looking than the HP I picked. It had big pixels. The Viewsonic they are selling in my area has blurry text. I saw a new NEC where I used to work that had blurry text right out of the box and it couldn't be fixed by adjusting it. I haven't seen the other 3 brands for sale in my area. It may be that I'm not going to the right place but finding the right place is no easy task. The small computer stores are not very common anymore. I dont' know where you can go to get a good selection, decent price and know you are going to a reliable place. >There is no sense buying a monitor for short money in a mass market store like >Best Buy or Circuit City. Mass market equates to cheaply made these days. >Spend a few more bucks and get something with good quality, easy on the eyes. >You only get one pair of eyes in this life... Ben Myers I've given up on CRTs. No magazines or well known web sites are even reviewing them anymore from what I can see. No manufacturers are making aperture grille monitors unless you get something bigger than 19". Now all that is left is shadow mask which isn't very good based on what I've looked at and without reviews there is no way to know which of the not very good monitors are not lousy. ;-) I tried using my own judgement and that was a disaster. :-) The colors looked fine in the store but the one I brought home with me seems to be different. >>>> >>I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I >>>> >>remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> >>>Notan >>Honestly, I would not buy any computer or monitor with the HP brand name on it. > > Me neither but it was the best CRT I could find in a store. There's very little selection. In a store and not bundled with a system, the more common monitor brands such as ViewSonic, NEC, etc., should ranked significantly better than HP. Of course, one thing to always do with monitors is to test their suitability not under store lighting but in the actual work environment. And if the store does not carry name-brand monitors, find the stores that do. >>>Honestly, I would not buy any computer or monitor with the HP brand name on it. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >lighting but in the actual work environment. And if the store >does not carry name-brand monitors, find the stores that do. Finding them is the hard part. I've seen Viewsonics and NECs that were not at all good. The Viewsonic that the chains (CompUSA and PC Richard) are selling now is not a good monitor, blurry text and colors don't look right. I've seen NECs with blurry text, brand new. Thanks. As always, the mass market stores sell low-priced junk, even with a name brand on it. The mass market stores and the name brand companies figure they can sell schlock to the masses... Ben Myers >>>>Honestly, I would not buy any computer or monitor with the HP brand name on it. >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >monitor, blurry text and colors don't look right. I've seen NECs with blurry text, brand >new. Thanks. >As always, the mass market stores sell low-priced junk, even with a name brand >on it. The mass market stores and the name brand companies figure they can sell >schlock to the masses... Ben Myers I believe you. There doesn't seem to be much of an alternative unless I know of a good monitor and buy it from an online company. I found 3 aperature grille monitors on the sites of Viewsonic, and Mitsubishi/NEC but no one is selling them. They might be discontinued models. With no recent CRT reviews and nothing good to look at in stores it's not easy finding a good model. Maybe I'll look for some other stores that aren't the big national chains. PC Connection used to have stores. Maybe I can find something similar. >>>>>Honestly, I would not buy any computer or monitor with the HP brand name on it. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >>monitor, blurry text and colors don't look right. I've seen NECs with blurry text, brand >>new. Thanks. > >>>Honestly, I would not buy any computer or monitor with the HP brand name on it. > >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > monitor, blurry text and colors don't look right. I've seen NECs with blurry text, brand > new. Thanks. Seriously, when was the last time you had your eyes checked?! >> Finding them is the hard part. I've seen Viewsonics and NECs that were not >at all good. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Seriously, when was the last time you had your eyes checked?! Stop changing your name, Arnie. You're just angry because the other kids at school call you Arnold Ziffel. for chirst's sake will you just go out and buy a quality monitor! they exist so get off your duff and look. you've writtten books in here about this no brain decision. for somebody mired in a ten year old OS (Win95b?!, barf!) you are spending far too much time agonizing over this. and load the damn drivers for the monitor like you're supposed to! and the latest video card drivers too! though given the state of the art system you got there who knows if a decent monitor will want to be seen with you! >for chirst's sake will you just go out and buy a quality monitor! That's a good idea. > they >exist so get off your duff and look. you've writtten books in here about >this no brain decision. I looked at 7 or 8 CRT monitors and picked the best one. As I said there isn't much of a selection available. > for somebody mired in a ten year old OS (Win95b?!, It's only 7 years old. I bought it in '98. ;-) >barf!) you are spending far too much time agonizing over this. > >and load the damn drivers for the monitor like you're supposed to! For what purpose? Several people have told me I don't need them and they gave good reasons. > and the >latest video card drivers too! As I said, I have them. > though given the state of the art system you >got there who knows if a decent monitor will want to be seen with you! Based on what you've written, you know nothing. Did you name a single high quality CRT brand and model? No. "Just get a good monitor." "Install the monitor drivers that you don't need and that require an OS you don't have." "Look for a good monitor." "Get the video card drivers you already have." Thanks for the valuable advice, Einstein. > >for chirst's sake will you just go out and buy a quality monitor! > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I looked at 7 or 8 CRT monitors and picked the best one. As I said there isn't much of a > selection available. Well then stop whining and settle for mediocrity unless you want to do your research and buy from a reputable dealer on the web. There are several of them. www.newegg.com is a local favorite. > > for somebody mired in a ten year old OS (Win95b?!, > > It's only 7 years old. I bought it in '98. ;-) Great, it was obsolete when bought it. Like them bargains huh?! > >barf!) you are spending far too much time agonizing over this. > > > >and load the damn drivers for the monitor like you're supposed to! > > For what purpose? Several people have told me I don't need them and they gave good > reasons. Gee, you think these monitor manufacturers give you this stuff because its useless? It provides information to the OS and video system. If you had a new OS that came with the drivers loaded then no issue. But you have a dinosaur that was written 10 years before your mointor was built. Last I knew, W95 wasn't telepathic! Please read up on it before believing everything you read on the web. > > and the > >latest video card drivers too! > > As I said, I have them. Right... And how old is that video card? Could it also be heading south on you? > > though given the state of the art system you > >got there who knows if a decent monitor will want to be seen with you! > > Based on what you've written, you know nothing. Did you name a single high quality CRT > brand and model? No. Got a great Samsung LCD. I don't buy monitors anymore so you're going to have to do your own research. There are still decent ones out there. But why buy an HP that's a retag of some China knockoff? What do you expect? > "Just get a good monitor." > "Install the monitor drivers that you don't need and that require an OS you don't have." > "Look for a good monitor." > "Get the video card drivers you already have." > > Thanks for the valuable advice, Einstein. You're rather clueless so I doubt any amount of advice, even from Einstein, will help you. Why don't you just wait until Dell is running a special that involves one of their 17"Ultrasharp LCDs on a 4700 and then go for it. Your system is so archaic it is ridiculous to put any money into it. I saw better systems in the heap at the recycle drive today! Why are you using two names, arnie? That's what trolls do. >> >for chirst's sake will you just go out and buy a quality monitor! >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >research and buy from a reputable dealer on the web. There are several of >them. www.newegg.com is a local favorite. Stop whining about my whining. I know newegg has a good reputation. That is no help unless they are selling something I want to buy. Also buying a monitor without first seeing it is a bad idea and if you have to return it to an online company then you pay for shipping twice and there may be a restocking fee. >> > for somebody mired in a ten year old OS (Win95b?!, >> >> It's only 7 years old. I bought it in '98. ;-) > >Great, it was obsolete when bought it. Like them bargains huh?! It was the newest OS when I bought it. You aren't too bright are you? >> >barf!) you are spending far too much time agonizing over this. >> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >knew, W95 wasn't telepathic! Please read up on it before believing >everything you read on the web. You first. You haven't said anything to support your statement that the OS has anything to do with it or that drivers would fix the problem. I didn't say drivers were useless. Drivers won't fix the color problem, that's not what they are intended for. Several people in this group have told me that and they told me the reasons.The fact that my old monitor worked fine without any drivers supports this. I've also switched monitors with computers several times with no problem. It's a common trouble shooting technique and doesn't require drivers with CRTs. >> > and the >> >latest video card drivers too! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Right... And how old is that video card? Could it also be heading south on >you? I already explained why I know the graphics card is working properly. >> > though given the state of the art system you >> >got there who knows if a decent monitor will want to be seen with you! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Got a great Samsung LCD. Isn't that special. > I don't buy monitors anymore so you're going to >have to do your own research. There are still decent ones out there. But >why buy an HP that's a retag of some China knockoff? What do you expect? I did not ask you to do any research. You think a Korean knockoff is any better than a Chinese one? Samsung has a bad reputation. If you got a good Samsung product it could be just dumb luck. Very dumb. >> "Just get a good monitor." >> "Install the monitor drivers that you don't need and that require an OS [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >You're rather clueless so I doubt any amount of advice, even from Einstein, >will help you. Well then advice from an angry, name changing dope like you certainly won't. > Why don't you just wait until Dell is running a special that >involves one of their 17"Ultrasharp LCDs on a 4700 and then go for it. Your >system is so archaic it is ridiculous to put any money into it. I saw >better systems in the heap at the recycle drive today! A monitor can be used with any computer. "Buy a new computer. Don't buy a monitor and use it with a computer that works fine." You are soooo smart. yup, you know it all bucko! the topper is you're whining about the color on a new monitor after ignoring the manufacturers instructions to load the monitor drivers. windows default drivers are being used. ever here the phrase, "lowest common denominator"? and not just today's lowest common denominator, but the lowest common denominator TEN YEARS AGO. i got some ancient monitors lying around here i'll sell you since you seem to like old stuff! > Why are you using two names, arnie? That's what trolls do. > [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] > > You are soooo smart. >yup, you know it all bucko! the topper is you're whining about the color on >a new monitor after ignoring the manufacturers instructions to load the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >ancient monitors lying around here i'll sell you since you seem to like old >stuff! CRT monitors do not have drivers. There are inf files which tell Windows what are the appropriate settings (limits) for the CRT monitor. Video cards need drivers - the monitor then just "follows along". >> On Sat, 7 May 2005 23:05:33 -0400, "ZX Racer" <ZXRacer@TheTrack.com> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 133 lines] >> >> You are soooo smart. > CRT monitors do not have drivers. There are inf files which tell > Windows what are the appropriate settings (limits) for the CRT > monitor. Video cards need drivers - the monitor then just "follows > along". everybody refers to them as monitor drivers so I do to. btw did you ever notice boot disks don't look like a boot either? ;-) >> CRT monitors do not have drivers. There are inf files which tell >> Windows what are the appropriate settings (limits) for the CRT [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >everybody refers to them as monitor drivers so I do to. >btw did you ever notice boot disks don't look like a boot either? ;-) <Whoosh> The sound of his point going over your empty head. >> CRT monitors do not have drivers. There are inf files which tell >> Windows what are the appropriate settings (limits) for the CRT [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >everybody refers to them as monitor drivers so I do to. >btw did you ever notice boot disks don't look like a boot either? ;-) Well not everybody as I don't :<P Point is you need a driver for a video card to work at its full potential; you don't need a monitor "driver" as you can set the monitor parameters without it - the inf file is helpful but not essential >yup, you know it all bucko! No irony there, Arnie/ZXRacer. > the topper is you're whining about the color on >a new monitor after ignoring the manufacturers instructions to load the >monitor drivers. Wah Mommy, the bad man doesn't want to take advice from an obnoxious, arrogant, name changing ignoramus. http://www.sony-cp.com/en/support/faq/ Are Sony monitors compatible with all graphics cards? All current Sony monitors are Multiscan products. There is no one exact frequency required for any resolution. In general, we STRONGLY recommend using VESA timings, because Sony monitors operate properly in that mode. However, if these timings are not useful, all our monitors will operate within a wide range of frequencies. Furthermore, please check in the Specifications paragraph of the user's manual for the recommended resolution. ***** A common misconception is that there are monitor drivers for video cards. This is little more than a file containing a list of scan frequencies and resolutions. MUAHAHAHAHAHAAH! What do they know? They only make monitors. Now you should admit you're a dummy who doesn't know what he is talking about and STFU. > windows default drivers are being used. ever here the >phrase, "lowest common denominator"? and not just today's lowest common >denominator, but the lowest common denominator TEN YEARS AGO. i got some >ancient monitors lying around here i'll sell you since you seem to like old >stuff! "My monitor is better than your monitor." Next you'll tell me your father can beat up my father. Don't you have anything better to do like racing around the living room? <zoom zoom> I'm ZX Racer. <neeeerrrrrroooooooohhhuuuuuu> > >yup, you know it all bucko! > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Don't you have anything better to do like racing around the living room? > <zoom zoom> I'm ZX Racer. <neeeerrrrrroooooooohhhuuuuuu> I don't give a flyin' f*&% what you do or don't do. You're the idiot with a problem. All my monitors work just fine! Nice beeeauuuutiful displays. But what seems to be your basic aversion to follow the instructions from the manufacturer of the equipment you just bought? Especially when you don't like what you see on the monitor? I guess you know better than them about their equipment? Dolts like you are why they invented the RTFM acronym. Now for God's sake go buy a decent monitor (a monochrome would fit nicely with that dinosaur), a decent video card, a decent system, a decent OS and follow installation directions and spare us the whining. Or are you gonna be back here next decade with this dinosaur complaining that you can't get your ISA modem to work?! >> On Mon, 9 May 2005 00:58:07 -0400, "ZX Racer" <ZXRacer@TheTrack.com> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >I don't give a flyin' f*&% what you do or don't do. You're the idiot with a >problem. All my monitors work just fine! Nice beeeauuuutiful displays. Translation: I'm too stupid to know none of my monitors work properly. >But what seems to be your basic aversion to follow the instructions from the >manufacturer of the equipment you just bought? Pay attention, Arnie/ZX Retard. It's not difficult to understand. Monitor drivers have nothing to do with tint, brightness or richness of colors. Monitor drivers determine what combinations of resolution and refresh rate Windows will allow you to select. Installing monitor drivers intended for one operating system on a computer running a different operating system might have undesirable effects. That may be why HP asks if your computer meets their OS requirement before you download the drivers. Generally speaking, installing software or drivers written for a certain version of Windows on a computer running a different version can cause problems. Even if drivers written for a different OS won't be a problem, no harm done since the drivers are not intended to make the colors less pale. They have nothing to do with it and so they cannot help. See, that wasn't so hard was it? If you are still too dense to get it, have one of your parents explain it to you. > Especially when you don't >like what you see on the monitor? I guess you know better than them about [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >be back here next decade with this dinosaur complaining that you can't get >your ISA modem to work?! Wah Mommy, the bad man won't take incorrect advice from an hostile, arrogant, name changing imbecile. My monitor is better than your monitor. My computer can beat up your computer. Even after I've shown you the description of monitor drivers from Sony's website that proves you are wrong, you are still here crying like a little bitch. Are you just too dumb to realise you don't know what you are talking about or too much of an a.shole? <zoom zoom> I'm ZX Racer, the other kids at school only make fun of me because the are jealous. http://www.sony-cp.com/en/support/faq/ A common misconception is that there are monitor drivers for video cards. This is little more than a file containing a list of scan frequencies and resolutions. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001178#DetailSpecs SAMSUNG 990DF Black 19" CRT Monitor 0.20mm Dot Pitch D-Sub - Retail For $205 it'll be at your front door next week. Now stop chasing your tail and buy it! Might want to consider this too: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814145055 >>>I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I >>>remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >restocking charge. Have you ever used software that is supposed to calibrate your monitor? >I don't know anything about them or even what they do. I'll have to read about it. Thanks. Look for drivers for your Video card.They may also include colour correction Software.To aid you in this download,"Everest Home Edition" which will tell you all you need to know about your system, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/diag.html HTH :)  SignatureFree Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html remove obvious to reply email pds@OBVIOUSpartybombe.de Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm >>>>I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I >>>>remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Look for drivers for your Video card.They may also include colour >correction Software. I tried and the ones I found were the STB drivers and the NVidia reference drivers. I think the NVidia reference drivers I used with my old hard disk had this color adjustment feature. The ones I downloaded from the NVidia site more recently are different and don't work properly. The drivers I'm using are the Dell STB drivers with no ability to adjust the color. >To aid you in this download,"Everest Home Edition" >which will tell you all you need to know about your system, How would this software help? Thank you. >http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/diag.html > >HTH :) >>>>>I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I >>>>>remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >work properly. The drivers I'm using are the Dell STB drivers with no ability to adjust >the color. No probs.You can use, http://www.guru3d.com/rivatuner/ Rivatuner >>To aid you in this download,"Everest Home Edition" >>which will tell you all you need to know about your system, > >How would this software help? Thank you. It was in case you didn't know what exact card you had in the system :) >>http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/diag.html >> >>HTH :) SignatureFree Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html remove obvious to reply email pds@OBVIOUSpartybombe.de Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm >>>>>>I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I >>>>>>remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >Rivatuner Thanks I'll check it out. :-) >>>To aid you in this download,"Everest Home Edition" >>>which will tell you all you need to know about your system, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >It was in case you didn't know what exact card you had in the system >:) I though that might be what it was for. >>>http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/diag.html >>> >>>HTH :) > I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I > remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the > monitor itself to do this. The monitor is an HP mx705. It's a Dell PC. I forgot how to > make these adjustments and had no luck with Google. > > Thanks. Click on Start, then go into Settings, then Control Panel. Double click on the Display icon. Is there a tab in the box that opens for color? That's where you would be able to change the color properties. >> I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I >> remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >icon. Is there a tab in the box that opens for color? That's where you would be able to >change the color properties. I don't see a tab like that. When I was able to adjust the color I had a different hard disk. I'm starting to wonder if the problem is with the drivers I'm using. They may be different from the ones I had on the other hard disk. Thanks. Right click an empty spot on the desktop. Click Properties Click settings Is there a color setting now? High color or True color etc. Elly's Tinnitus Resources http://eebee.net/ >>> I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I >>> remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >disk. I'm starting to wonder if the problem is with the drivers I'm using. They may be >different from the ones I had on the other hard disk. Thanks. >Right click an empty spot on the desktop. >Click Properties >Click settings >Is there a color setting now? >High color or True color etc. I have it set to 32 bit color. >Elly's Tinnitus Resources >http://eebee.net/ [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>disk. I'm starting to wonder if the problem is with the drivers I'm using. They may be >>different from the ones I had on the other hard disk. Thanks. >>Right click an empty spot on the desktop. >>Click Properties [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I have it set to 32 bit color. Try one of the other settings and see what happens. Elly's Tinnitus Resources http://eebee.net/ >>>Right click an empty spot on the desktop. >>>Click Properties [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Try one of the other settings and see what happens. I did. No improvement. >Elly's Tinnitus Resources >http://eebee.net/ Are you sure you have the correct video card driver (what does it say in Device Manager) and that your monitor connection to the computer is solid (not loose or crimped funny)? Did your old monitor look good? If so, then you probably just have a poor or defective monitor. > I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or > whatever you want. I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks. >Are you sure you have the correct video card driver (what does it say in >Device Manager) and that your monitor connection to the computer is solid >(not loose or crimped funny)? Yes the drivers are correct. Device manager says STB Velocity 128. The cable looks reasonable straight and the connection is tight. > Did your old monitor look good? If so, then >you probably just have a poor or defective monitor. Yeah my old monitor looked fantastic, an aperture grille Iiyama. I'm sure my monitor is the problem. Thanks. >> I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or >> whatever you want. I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> Thanks. I adjust with a ColorVision Spyder2 Pro. www.colorvision.com I process a lot of photos for printing. This is worth it's weight in gold. G-Man > I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or > whatever you want. I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks. >I adjust with a ColorVision Spyder2 Pro. > >www.colorvision.com > >I process a lot of photos for printing. This is worth it's weight in gold. Thanks. I'll check it out. At this point I'm wondering if color adjustment will even help much. The colors are so washed out I can't imagine anything making them look like they should. >G-Man > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >> Thanks. > I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I > remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the > monitor itself to do this. The monitor is an HP mx705. It's a Dell PC. I forgot how to > make these adjustments and had no luck with Google. > > Thanks. hi, have you tried the new monitor on another machine? and have you tried your old monitor on the dell again? and do you have display properties at all? (control panel-> display ->dbl click) what options do you have-- any? and if you right click the desktop and choose properties? if you have an option to increase resolution try it... >> I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I >> remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >hi, >have you tried the new monitor on another machine? No. >and >have you tried your old monitor on the dell again? No. The old monitor would switch back and forth between looking fine and having a red tint to everything. The new monitor hasn't done this at all so I am reasonable sure the problem was with the old monitor. >and >do you have display properties at all? >(control panel-> display ->dbl click) >what options do you have-- any? Background, screen saver, appearance and settings. >and if you right click the desktop and choose properties? It's the same screen. >if you have an option to increase resolution try it... Not a bad thought but I don't want higher resolution, 600 x 800 is good for a 17" monitor. Thanks. > >> I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I > >> remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Not a bad thought but I don't want higher resolution, 600 x 800 is good for a 17" monitor. > Thanks. It's got .28mm dot pitch. Not real great! From your user manual: 1024 x 768 85 Hz (preferred user resolution) > >> I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I > >> remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > No. if it is not too inconvenient you should try it! > >and > >have you tried your old monitor on the dell again? > > No. The old monitor would switch back and forth between looking fine and having a red tint > to everything. The new monitor hasn't done this at all so I am reasonable sure the problem > was with the old monitor. since you have 2 *abnormal* monitors -- the video card could be off...... perhaps you can reseat it? > >and > >do you have display properties at all? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Not a bad thought but I don't want higher resolution, 600 x 800 is good for a 17" monitor. > Thanks. just to see whether the monitor is capable of anything..... when you choose settings, what options do you have? there should be an 'advanced' bottom at the bottom right....you should have the color? do you? if you have that option, raise (or lower) color to high color 16 bits. i assume that you have made certain that the monitor is SECURELY attached to pc. > > >> I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I > > >> remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > if you have that option, raise (or lower) color to high color 16 bits. > i assume that you have made certain that the monitor is SECURELY attached to pc. AND there are no broken pins! > > > On Sat, 07 May 2005 12:26:00 -0400, Tanya > <tjtmdREMOVE_THIS@attglobal.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > AND there are no broken pins! yes a broken pin........ also here are two unLikely longShots: 1. is there by any chance a protective *film* on the monitor??? (i have received new monitors with a covering film (like a plastic) however it is usually pretty obvious...) 2. or have you tried cleaning (a part of) it? (just 2 unlikely possibilities...) :) >> > > On Sat, 07 May 2005 12:26:00 -0400, Tanya >> <tjtmdREMOVE_THIS@attglobal.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] >(just 2 unlikely possibilities...) >:) It's clean, no coating or broken pins. Thanks. > >> > > On Sat, 07 May 2005 12:26:00 -0400, Tanya > >> <tjtmdREMOVE_THIS@attglobal.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > It's clean, no coating or broken pins. Thanks. hi i agree with Jerry (below) that it is a video card driver issue..... i had similar with a great monitor (still have it) and a win95 pc after reloading windows 95b: the colors were faded (desktop, any program etc...) and there were minimal if any options and none to adjust it... (in display properties) i had to <?upDate?> reinstall the drivers and this fixed it! also you should reseat your video card (older video cards might require this at times....) and as far as monitor drivers: i sometimes use a mac (apple) monitor with win95/98 pcs with no problem at all (i don't think that older windows versions come with mac monitor drivers...could be wrong...) fwiw, i would still be curious how the monitor functions on another pc; i'd do the above BEFORE returning the monitor sincerely Tanya >> >> > > On Sat, 07 May 2005 12:26:00 -0400, Tanya >> >> <tjtmdREMOVE_THIS@attglobal.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] >> >> It's clean, no coating or broken pins. Thanks. >hi >i agree with Jerry (below) that it is a video card driver issue..... [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >sincerely >Tanya Hi Tanya, I don't think the graphics card drivers are the problem. They worked fine with my older monitor and they are the most recent ones from Dell. I think the lack of a color adjustment is because Dell didn't include that feature in the drivers. I had some old drivers from Nvidia that did have this feature. The Nvidiia drivers were updated since then and the new ones don't work too well so I don't use them. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find the old drivers from Nvidia. Thanks. > >> >> > > On Sat, 07 May 2005 12:26:00 -0400, Tanya > >> >> <tjtmdREMOVE_THIS@attglobal.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 98 lines] > then and the new ones don't work too well so I don't use them. Unfortunately I haven't > been able to find the old drivers from Nvidia. Thanks. hi, can you post (or repost?) your video card information? >> >> >> > > On Sat, 07 May 2005 12:26:00 -0400, Tanya >> >> >> <tjtmdREMOVE_THIS@attglobal.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] >hi, >can you post (or repost?) your video card information? It's an STB Velocity 128 Dell OEM card. hi <random snips> > >> >> >> > > >> I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or > >> >> >> whatever you want.The monitor is an HP mx705. It's a Dell [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >> >> >> having a red tint > >> >> >> > > to everything. if you still have your old monitor, see what it does (i'd still try another a working monitor on the dell though) > The new monitor hasn't done this at all so I am > >> >> >> reasonable sure the problem [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >> >> >> > > Not a bad thought but I don't want higher resolution, 600 x 800 is good > >> >> >> for a 17" monitor. i'd still suggest temporarily changing the resolution to 1024 * 768 just for troubleshooting... > >> >> >> > when you choose settings, what options do you have? > >> >> >> > there should be an 'advanced' bottom at the bottom right....you should [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >> > > >> >fwiw, i would still be curious how the monitor functions on another pc; still :) and vice versa > >> >i'd do the above BEFORE returning the monitor > >> >sincerely [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >> monitor and they are the most recent ones from Dell. I think the lack of a color > >> adjustment is because Dell didn't include that feature in the drivers. i know but i really don't think that the *sophisticated* extras are too useful except for the diagnostic (which it doesn't have) > I had some old > >> drivers from Nvidia that did have this feature. The Nvidiia drivers were updated since [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > It's an STB Velocity 128 Dell OEM card. doesn't seem to be a driver surplus on the internet........... here are some ideas: i think that 4 is the most *helpful* 1. there are sites (i don't know the reliability / integrity) where you can assess your video (or whatever else) drivers for free...... (one is drivers.com) have you tried any of these? 2. have you tried unplugging the monitor for a while? (likely no help) 3. try degaussing it *4. when you start the pc, do you have the BRIGHT blue dell splash screen? if so, is the blue bright? (or any of the colors if there are other colors?) also the windows splash (w/ the clouds) prior to it loading everything (is the color normal?) 5. is there a user's manual with the monitor? 6. i would try the monitor in a different electrical outlet? (fwiw) 7. a)(with the pc off) unplug everything other than the monitor, the keyboard, the mouse and the pc power cable. b) restart; go into safe mode c) go to start-> settings -> control panel-> display move the resolution to the left (640*480) (desktop and screen); move the color palette to 256.... d) click ok and restart... ANY DIFFERENCE? (shut off and replug everything...) 7. have you asked the retailer? 8. the only question that that might diagnose the monitor or a driver issue (i think) is the one about the dell splash (you could also enter the setup ('del' key) and see if the colors there are washed out (although they are fairly faint)) 9. have you made SURE that plug 'n play is set up for the monitor (device mnger) 10. make sure to reseat the video card p.s. has anyone heard of a synch adapter??????? quote from your post re: controls on monitor: 'The controls on the front of the monitor are for brightness, contrast, moire, degauss and adjusting the shape of the picture like pincushion, trapezoid, etc. There's also something called color temperature. I changed it from 9300 to 6500 and it makes a big difference but the color still doesn't look right.' have you adjusted the brightness (i.e. turned it down)? and the contrast? turned it up? can you save the monitor settings (via the monitor?) i don't know what moire is but in what way did changing the color temp make a big difference? sincerely Tanya p.s. i don't know whether there's a h/w problem w/ the monitor (i would just be concerned about getting a refund (i.e.do you have a time limit to replace it?)) imho, it certainly could be a video card / driver issue / a bios setting / windows setting.... 1 more thing: do you have any dos games or whatever to see if the monitor displays color running in msDos only? >hi ><random snips> [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] >(or whatever else) drivers for free...... (one is drivers.com) >have you tried any of these? I wouldn't try something like that. I don't think it's a good idea to trust a site that wants to scan your computer. >2. have you tried unplugging the monitor for a while? (likely no help) No but I had the power off for long periods of time. >3. try degaussing it Yes. No change. That was weird. :-) >*4. when you start the pc, do you have the BRIGHT blue dell splash screen? >if so, is the blue bright? It's there. It's hard to say if it's bright. I'm not sure if lack of brightness is the problem. I have the brightness down to around 12% to try to get more color out of it. Some of the individual colors look okay. Blue, red and yellow all seem to be alright but when I look at pictures of people the skin tones are very dull looking. I think I'm getting too much yellow and not enough red and blue. No amount of adjusting the brightness and contrast will fix it. With the brightness and contrast at 50% or more the colors are washed out. Lowering the settings makes everything dull. Colors are still pale but less bright. >(or any of the colors if there are other colors?) >also the windows splash (w/ the clouds) prior to it loading everything (is the color normal?) >5. is there a user's manual with the monitor? No. There's some info at the Hewlet Packard site. >6. i would try the monitor in a different electrical outlet? (fwiw) > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >(shut off and replug everything...) >7. have you asked the retailer? No. I'm fairly certain they'd be no help. >8. the only question that that might diagnose the monitor or a driver issue (i think) is the >one about the dell splash (you could also enter the setup ('del' key) and see if the colors >there are washed out (although they are fairly faint)) >9. have you made SURE that plug 'n play is set up for the monitor (device mnger) It says plug and play monitor in device manager. >10. make sure to reseat the video card > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >have you adjusted the brightness (i.e. turned it down)? >and the contrast? turned it up? Yes. That helps but the problems is still there. >can you save the monitor settings (via the monitor?) no. >i don't know what moire is It's a weird pattern when you look at pictures. I forget what causes it. >but in what way did changing the color temp make a big difference? >sincerely It made the picture less bright, less washed out and more dull looking. I think it makes it yellower too. >Tanya >p.s. i don't know whether there's a h/w problem w/ the monitor (i would just be concerned [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >do you have any dos games or whatever to see if the monitor displays color running in msDos >only? Before Windows starts I see a blue Dell symbol (or something) during the power on self test. I get the impression that the computer is working okay because colors with the old monitor were fine except for on and off color problem that I believe was cause by the old monitor going bad. IOW everything would get red then it would go back to being fine. I don't that problem at all with the new monitor so I think the cause was the old monitor. The problem I have with the new monitor did not exist at all with the old one so I think in both cases I'm seeing monitor problems and not something wrong with he rest of the computer. I'm going to see if I can find a better CRT at a local store. There aren't many stores computer stores where I live. They seem to have all been killed off by CompUSA, the office stores, electronics stores and the maybe department stores and none of these have good CRTs. They all sell the same 5 or so brands and models plus a few cheaper no-name brands. LCDs might be another matter. Thanks for all the help and suggestions. hi, <multiple snips> > >i'd still suggest temporarily changing the resolution to 1024 * 768 just for > >troubleshooting... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >> >> then and the new ones don't work too well so I don't use them. Unfortunately I haven't > >> >> been able to find the old drivers from Nvidia. Thanks. i believe that these are the drivers for your video card: RIVA 128/128ZX Drivers http://www.nvidia.com/object/riva_drivers (i don't know whether these are the same as you have now, but if not and your *new* monitor has similar problems you might try these...) > your video card information? > >> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I wouldn't try something like that. I don't think it's a good idea to trust a site that > wants to scan your computer. :) probably a good idea... (some (a few) are ok fwiw) > >2. have you tried unplugging the monitor for a while? (likely no help) > > No but I had the power off for long periods of time. i think that actually unPlugging the monitor can help certain problems... (fwiw) > >3. try degaussing it > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It's there. It's hard to say if it's bright. I'm not sure if lack of brightness is the > problem. I have the brightness down to around 12% to try to get more color out of it. what i was getting at was to see whether the monitor was capable displaying colors (in dos) since i thought that 1 of the problems was 'washOut'... (also you could run scandisk at the dos prompt (it has a nice yellow and a nice red if something's being fixed:) (also i believe that some dos applications have color -- or one can edit files to have colors) HOWEVER troubleshooting a NEW monitor to this degree (in my opinion) is unreasonable... > Some of the individual colors look okay. Blue, red and yellow all seem to be alright but > when I look at pictures of people the skin tones are very dull looking. unless the photos (pictures) are displayed in a photo (s/w) program which requires certain settings (but i guess since your old monitor was able to display them (sometimes) this *dullness* would not point to a s/w problem with the new monitor but instead a h/w problem with the hp monitor)) > I think I'm > getting too much yellow and not enough red and blue. No amount of adjusting the brightness [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > It made the picture less bright, less washed out and more dull looking. I think it makes > it yellower too. fwiw, at this point i'd try for a default setting on the monitor (but again (IMHO) this is xs for a new monitor) > >Tanya > >p.s. i don't know whether there's a h/w problem w/ the monitor (i would just be concerned [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I have with the new monitor did not exist at all with the old one so I think in both cases > I'm seeing monitor problems and not something wrong with he rest of the computer. i don't think that there is anything wrong with the pc -- just wanted to know whether the initial screens were washed out and the blue on the dell splash is pretty BRIGHT (strong -- i.e. not washed out) > I'm going to see if I can find a better CRT at a local store. There aren't many stores > computer stores where I live. They seem to have all been killed off by CompUSA, the office > stores, electronics stores and the maybe department stores and none of these have good > CRTs. They all sell the same 5 or so brands and models plus a few cheaper no-name brands. i don't know brands offhand (i saw a number of posts relating to brands in this thread) if these are unavailable, you could try onLine stores (for example: newEgg, chiefValue, ncix.com (usa)) JUST to see the top 10 picks for crt's (or lcd's) and the reviews and comparisons (at least with chiefValue) given by customers) > LCDs might be another matter. > Thanks for all the help and suggestions. you are welcome i (for one) would be curious to know how your new monitor works -- perhaps you can post back with the results..... sincerely, Tanya >hi, ><multiple snips> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >(i don't know whether these are the same as you have now, but if not and your *new* monitor has >similar problems you might try these...) Thanks, yes they are the same. I checked them a few days ago. >> your video card information? >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > >unless the photos (pictures) are displayed in a photo (s/w) program which requires certain settings No it's just with any picture viewer like ACDC or Irfanview. >(but i guess since your old monitor was able to display them (sometimes) this *dullness* would not >point to a s/w problem with the new monitor but instead a h/w problem with the hp monitor)) [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] >fwiw, at this point i'd try for a default setting on the monitor (but again (IMHO) this is xs for a >new monitor) I did. They are just for brighness and contrast. >> >Tanya >> >p.s. i don't know whether there's a h/w problem w/ the monitor (i would just be concerned [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >screens were washed out and the blue on the dell splash is pretty BRIGHT (strong -- i.e. not washed >out) The splash screen is washed out as well. >> I'm going to see if I can find a better CRT at a local store. There aren't many stores >> computer stores where I live. They seem to have all been killed off by CompUSA, the office [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >to see the top 10 picks for crt's (or lcd's) and the reviews and comparisons (at least with >chiefValue) given by customers) That's a good suggestion. >> LCDs might be another matter. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >sincerely, >Tanya Thanks Tanya. I've decided to stick with the one I have. I found two I might like but no one sells them, an NEC FE770 and an IBM C170. Other than CompUSA and the appliance chains, there are no computer stores in my area except for some that don't keep anything in stock, not even display models. The local Dell store sells the NEC but there's no display model so they are no help. Gateway sells the IBM but they closed all their stores. ;-) I could order them but since no one reviews CRT monitors anymore I'd have to hope for the best and I don't want to do that. It's too late anyway. Thursday is the last day I can return the new monitor and I can't afford to be without a monitor while I wait for a new one. I'd get an LCD at this point but I don't think they will work with my old OS, Windows 95. I'm guessing Win95 wouldn't know anything about the 5:4 resolution so I'd get a messed up picture if it would even display anything. Monitor drivers wouldn't help since they won't work with this old OS. >Thanks Tanya. I've decided to stick with the one I have. I found two I might >like but no one sells them, an NEC FE770 and an IBM C170. Other than CompUSA and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >so I'd get a messed up picture if it would even display anything. Monitor >drivers wouldn't help since they won't work with this old OS. Get one of these: http://search.ebay.com/dell-p780_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8 >>Thanks Tanya. I've decided to stick with the one I have. I found two I might >>like but no one sells them, an NEC FE770 and an IBM C170. Other than CompUSA and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >http://search.ebay.com/dell-p780_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8 I'll think about it. There are a lot of them. $35 or $45 seems a bit steep for shipping. I have to do some research before I buy anything on ebay. I don't know anything about it. Thanks. hi, [...below...] <many snips> > >> >> >> >fwiw, i would still be curious how the monitor functions on another pc; > >> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Thanks, yes they are the same. I checked them a few days ago. fwiw, you video card is *reviewed* by some users (with variable results...) here: User Reviews - STB Velocity 128 http://www.sysopt.com/userreviews/vidcards/reviewhtml/STB_Velocity_128.html (might consider a new card at some point) > >> >here are some ideas: i think that 4 is the most *helpful* > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > >i think that actually unPlugging the monitor can help certain problems... (fwiw) try unplugging the monitor for several hours... (not simply turning it off) > >> >*4. when you start the pc, do you have the BRIGHT blue dell splash screen? > >> >if so, is the blue bright? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > No it's just with any picture viewer like ACDC or Irfanview. and i assume that other programs / windows are dull too? (like msPaint?) > >> I think I'm > >> getting too much yellow and not enough red and blue. i think that the crt has 3 phos. 'guns' (iirc) red, blue and green i'd think that there's too little red, and too much green and a questionable amount of blue... fwiw, in a tv, (crt) these can be adjusted by a technician (don't try this your self) > No amount of adjusting the brightness > >> and contrast will fix it. With the brightness and contrast at 50% or more the colors are [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >> >also the windows splash (w/ the clouds) prior to it loading everything (is the color normal?) > >> >6. i would try the monitor in a different electrical outlet? (fwiw) still would... > >> >7. a)(with the pc off) unplug everything other than the monitor, the keyboard, the mouse and > >> >the pc power cable. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >> >256.... > >> >d) click ok and restart... did you try this? > >> >7. have you asked the retailer? > >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >> > >> >10. make sure to reseat the video card have you done this? plus if there're chips on the card, you could make sure that they are secure (just push them lightly) > >> >p.s. has anyone heard of a synch adapter??????? this is an adapter which i have no familiarity with -- which apparently enables older os's to support new monitors... > >> >quote from your post re: controls on monitor: > >> >'The controls on the [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >fwiw, at this point i'd try for a default setting on the monitor (but again (IMHO) this is xs for a > >new monitor) to emphasize: i would strongly recommend trying for defaults (ask hp) and or: assuming you have your old monitor, reconnect it to the pc and then remove it and put the new one on and hope that it redetects (should / could get default settings again) > I did. They are just for brighness and contrast. also i think at this point that too many of the settings have been adjusted and i'd want to start from scratch (writing down the default settings first) when you go to device manager is the hp monitor named? > >> >p.s. i don't know whether there's a h/w problem w/ the monitor (i would just be concerned > >> >about getting a refund (i.e.do you have a time limit to replace it?)) [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > sells the NEC but there's no display model so they are no help. Gateway sells > the IBM but they closed all their stores. ;-) as far as display models: did the hp have one? i've never bought a monitor that i saw in a display... > I could order them but since no > one reviews CRT monitors anymore there *are* reviews! lcd is still a 'bit' co$tly also, the online shops have user reviews... i found links; i will post them > I'd have to hope for the best and I don't want > to do that. It's too late anyway. Thursday is the last day I can return the new > monitor and I can't afford to be without a monitor while I wait for a new one. i'd be talking to hp -- i would imagine they would want the provide functioning monitors.... doesn't your hp have an hp warranty (at least for a year?) most companies would send a rpl first (you'd likely need to put down a deposit) and if it worked then have you send the bad one back... also some of the onLine stores have good reputations i haven't dealt with newegg etc but there is a retailer assessment link i'll post that scores onLine sellers... http://www.resellerratings.com/ > I'd get an LCD at this point but I don't think they will work with my old OS, > Windows 95. I'm guessing Win95 wouldn't know anything about the 5:4 resolution > so I'd get a messed up picture if it would even display anything. i found lots of links with win95b and lcds... i think in that case upgrading your video card would help a lot... Video Cards http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Video-Cards/ Video Hardware, Part 2 http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Video-Cards/Video-Hardware-Part-2/3/ Video Cards http://www.devhardware.com/index2.php?option=content&task=view&id=1425&pop=1&pag e=0&hide_js=1 (2 are pretty much the same but 1 has a menu on the left on other devices.....) (they talk about monitors as well) > Monitor > drivers wouldn't help since they won't work with this old OS. oh? actually notebooks have <always?> used lcd monitors... i think that win95b supports them (someone might be able to confirm this) sincerely, Tanya >hi, >[...below...] [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >http://www.sysopt.com/userreviews/vidcards/reviewhtml/STB_Velocity_128.html >(might consider a new card at some point) For an old computer it's not worth it IMO. >> >> >here are some ideas: i think that 4 is the most *helpful* >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >try unplugging the monitor for several hours... (not simply turning it off) Okay. Considering that the monitor has looked like this since I bought it, I don't think umplugging could help but I'll try it. >> >> >*4. when you start the pc, do you have the BRIGHT blue dell splash screen? >> >> >if so, is the blue bright? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >and i assume that other programs / windows are dull too? (like msPaint?) Yes. >> >> I think I'm >> >> getting too much yellow and not enough red and blue. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >i'd think that there's too little red, and too much green and a questionable amount of blue... >fwiw, in a tv, (crt) these can be adjusted by a technician (don't try this your self) OK. >> No amount of adjusting the brightness >> >> and contrast will fix it. With the brightness and contrast at 50% or more the colors are [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >did you try this? No. What would that tell me? >> >> >7. have you asked the retailer? >> >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >have you done this? plus if there're chips on the card, you could make sure that they are secure (just >push them lightly) No I don't think a loose connection could cause what I am seeing and with one monitor but not another, the old one. >> >> >p.s. has anyone heard of a synch adapter??????? > >this is an adapter which i have no familiarity with -- which apparently enables older os's to support >new monitors... Oh. No I've never heard of it. >> >> >quote from your post re: controls on monitor: >> >> >'The controls on the [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >monitor, reconnect it to the pc and then remove it and put the new one on and hope that it redetects >(should / could get default settings again) I don't know what defaults you are referring to. >> I did. They are just for brighness and contrast. > >also i think at this point that too many of the settings have been adjusted and i'd want to start from >scratch (writing down the default settings first) >when you go to device manager is the hp monitor named? No. It says Plug and Play monitor. Windows was able to detect that a new monitor was connected. >> >> >p.s. i don't know whether there's a h/w problem w/ the monitor (i would just be concerned >> >> >about getting a refund (i.e.do you have a time limit to replace it?)) [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >as far as display models: did the hp have one? >i've never bought a monitor that i saw in a display... I'm not sure what you mean. I meant that the Dell store did not have an NEC monitor that I could look at hooked up in their store. >> I could order them but since no >> one reviews CRT monitors anymore [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >i'd be talking to hp -- i would imagine they would want the provide functioning monitors.... doesn't >your hp have an hp warranty (at least for a year?) Yes it's just one year. I don't know if it's really a defective monitor. It may just be a crap monitor. Maybe I'll call them. I'm not real hopeful about them being any help. >most companies would send a rpl first (you'd likely need to put down a deposit) and if it worked then >have you send the bad one back... >also some of the onLine stores have good reputations >i haven't dealt with newegg etc but there is a retailer assessment link i'll post that scores onLine >sellers... >http://www.resellerratings.com/ Good site. >> I'd get an LCD at this point but I don't think they will work with my old OS, >> Windows 95. I'm guessing Win95 wouldn't know anything about the 5:4 resolution >> so I'd get a messed up picture if it would even display anything. > >i found lots of links with win95b and lcds... i think in that case upgrading your video card would help >a lot... I'll do a search. Thanks. >Video Cards >http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Video-Cards/ [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >http://www.devhardware.com/index2.php?option=content&task=view&id=1425&pop=1&pag e=0&hide_js=1 >(2 are pretty much the same but 1 has a menu on the left on other devices.....) >(they talk about monitors as well) > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >sincerely, >Tanya hi, <MAJORITY SNIPPED> > >> >i believe that these are the drivers for your video card: > >> >RIVA 128/128ZX Drivers [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > For an old computer it's not worth it IMO. i'd imagine that you could get a card that'd work in the current dell and would also work in a *new* pc (agp is still around) > .>> No amount of adjusting the brightness > >> >> and contrast will fix it. With the brightness and contrast at 50% or more the colors are > >> >> washed out. Lowering the settings makes everything dull. Colors are still pale but less > >> >> bright. i think that brightness and contrast work opposite to each other? (inversely) i.e. lower the brightness and increase the contrast (rather than lowering both) > >> >> >7. a)(with the pc off) unplug everything other than the monitor, the keyboard, the mouse and > >> >> >the pc power cable. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > No. What would that tell me? basically, safe mode uses window's default video drivers. you can change settings in safe mode... and see whether the display is better -- meaning the video card / drivers is bad... also, if the display is ok this would indicate that there are either problems with the video-card / drivers or the pc with a new monitor needs that synch adapter although this is highly unlikely... anyone want to jump in here? :) do you have 'performance' under display properties? if so have you tried moving the slider under 'graphics h/w acceleration' to the left? try it, and restart and see what happens. back in normal mode: using higher resolutions will limit the number of colors displayed -- so try lower resolutions... (correction from a prior post:) and...the number of choices of color (i.e. display prop -> settings) present depend on what your video card'll support. > >> >> >8. the only question that that might diagnose the monitor or a driver issue (i think) is the > >> >> >one about the dell splash (you could also enter the setup ('del' key) and see if the colors > >> >> >there are washed out (although they are fairly faint)) > >> >> >9. have you made SURE that plug 'n play is set up for the monitor (device mnger) > >> >> > >> >> It says plug and play monitor in device manager. does it give the name of your monitor or just general monitor? > >> >> >10. make sure to reseat the video card > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > No I don't think a loose connection could cause what I am seeing and with one monitor but > not another, the old one. it could... it couldn't hurt......... > >> >> >p.s. has anyone heard of a synch adapter??????? > > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > I don't know what defaults you are referring to. the monitor defaults. > >> I did. They are just for brighness and contrast. > > [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > I'm not sure what you mean. I meant that the Dell store did not have an NEC monitor that I > could look at hooked up in their store. what i meant is that i have never looked at a monitor's display (i usually buy onLine) did you see the hp monitor on display before you bought it? > >> I could order them but since no > >> one reviews CRT monitors anymore [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Yes it's just one year. I don't know if it's really a defective monitor. It may just be a > crap monitor. Maybe I'll call them. I'm not real hopeful about them being any help. could be -- but i have 3 O.L.D. monitors... 2 are on win95b pc's... the video chip on 1 and the video card on another are antique...the video adapters are close to bottom_of_the_line. AND the displays are great SOOooo imo, they are probably making newer crts better than 6 - 8 y/ago. either: 1. the monitor is defective 2. or there're settings that need to be changed. i'd be pursuing the hp people and / or the retailer. what i *still* would suggest is trying the monitor on a different pc! > >most companies would send a rpl first (you'd likely need to put down a deposit) and if it worked then > >have you send the bad one back... [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >sincerely, > >Tanya good luck sincerely Tanya >> >> I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I >> >> remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >since you have 2 *abnormal* monitors -- the video card could be off...... perhaps you can reseat >it? It seems unlikely. The problem with the old monitor was the color would switch back and forth between everything being purple and looking the way it should look. It also had dark horizontal lines, not the kind that all aperture grille monitors have. The new monitor has nothing like that. Also a knowledgable person here and some other people have told me that these are symptoms of an old monitor that's on the way out. >> >and >> >do you have display properties at all? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >just to see whether the monitor is capable of anything..... I tried the next higher resolution, 1024x768. There was no improvement. >when you choose settings, what options do you have? Font size, color pallette, i.e. 32 bits, etc. and resolution. >there should be an 'advanced' bottom at the bottom right....you should have the color? do you? The advanced button doesn't show me a tab for color admustment and the tabs don't have anything on them for adjusting color. >if you have that option, raise (or lower) color to high color 16 bits. I have the color set to 32 bits. I tried the 16 bit color and it does not help. >i assume that you have made certain that the monitor is SECURELY attached to pc. Yes. Thank you. >>> >> I'm using Windows 95b. There is a way to make the color more red or whatever you want. I >>> >> remember there is a way to save more than one setting. There is no adjusment on the >>> >> monitor itself to do this. The monitor is an HP mx705. It's a Dell PC. I forgot how to >>> >> make these adjustments and had no luck with Google. >>> >have you tried the new monitor on another machine? >>> No. >>if it is not too inconvenient you should try it! Agreed. >>> No. The old monitor would switch back and forth between looking fine and having a red tint >>> to everything. The new monitor hasn't done this at all so I am reasonable sure the problem >>> was with the old monitor. Yes, it most likely was a dry solder joint or something, causing one of the RGB color guns to dip out. Sometimes a wonky signal cable can do that too. If it affects the whole display, it's likely that; if it affects a part of the display as a soft-edged "wash", then degaussing the screen (and keeping speakers and other magnets away) may help. >>> Background, screen saver, appearance and settings. Drill into Settings - that's where you'll see color depths, refresh rates, etc. Look out for extra tabs to these dialog boxes that your SVGA (graphic card) drivers may have added; these may have options to control gamma, brightness etc. and if those were cranked up for an old monitor with fading tube, then that may be why the new one looks too bright. Try resetting any fancy settings to default first. Sick monit |
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