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Dee - 02 Dec 2003 19:17 GMT
I have an older gateway computer.  The CD rom drive went
bad and I have lost everything on my hard drive.  I have
replaced the cd rom drive and now want to install
everything back onto the computer. I have the original
Win 95 cd but do not have a start up disk.  The computer
dosn't have a recovery disk so I have to do it by using
these two items.  Is there a way to make a start up disk
on another computer using 98 or XP, without messing up
those computers by putting in the win 95 CD?  I have
contacted Gateway and they say no.  I have had no luck
contacting Microsoft.  Please advise.
Haggis - 02 Dec 2003 19:22 GMT
find what you need at www.bootdisk.com

> I have an older gateway computer.  The CD rom drive went
> bad and I have lost everything on my hard drive.  I have
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> contacted Gateway and they say no.  I have had no luck
> contacting Microsoft.  Please advise.
Dee - 02 Dec 2003 20:02 GMT
Thank you.  I tried it but it comes up with the
response "Invalid System Disk" Replace the disk and press
any key.  Any other suggestions?
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>find what you need at www.bootdisk.com
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Tim Slattery - 02 Dec 2003 21:04 GMT
>Thank you.  I tried it but it comes up with the
>response "Invalid System Disk" Replace the disk and press
>any key.  Any other suggestions?

In that case you've done something wrong. If you follow the
instructions at www.bootdisk.com you should come up with a bootable
floppy disk. The error message indicates that the floppy in the drive
is not bootable.

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dude - 02 Dec 2003 21:48 GMT
>-----Original Message-----
>I have an older gateway computer.  The CD rom drive went
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>.
>no you cant make a boot disk off of windows 98 or xp
there incompatable with windows 95 go to bootdisk.com
cquirke (MVP Win9x) - 03 Dec 2003 08:42 GMT
>I have an older gateway computer.  The CD rom drive went
>bad and I have lost everything on my hard drive.  I have
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>on another computer using 98 or XP, without messing up
>those computers by putting in the win 95 CD?  

Yes.  

Unlike some older versions of MS-DOS, whenever Win9x formats a
diskette, it places appropriate boot code to look for and boot IO.SYS
etc. if present, and this boot code is not version-specific across the
Win9x (Win95/98/ME) spectrum.  However, if the diskette is formatted
by NT (NT/Win2000/XP), the boot code won't be appropriate - i.e. it
won't look for and boot an IO.SYS, more likely looks for an NTLDR

So to make a boot diskette for an arbitrary version of Win9x, do this:

1)  Format diskette from arbitrary Win9x or Win9x DOS mode
2)  Copy on appropriate-version boot files, namely:
    - IO.SYS
    - Command.com
    - DrvSpace.bin and/or DblSpace.bin (for compressed volumes)
    - FDisk, Format, Sys, etc. commands to taste
    - CD-ROM drivers to taste (SomeName.sys + MSCDEx.exe)
    - Config.sys and AutoExec.bat to taste (e.g. for CD support)
    - HiMem.sys, Emm386.exe, RAM disk support etc. to taste

Note that it's no longer necessary to use Sys A: to make the diskette
bootable.  As long as you can see the normally-hidden IO.SYS file, you
can do (2) under direct vision from Windows Explorer.

I find the WinME boot diskettes so dysfunctional that I don't use
them, so i don't know how one would make those from arbitrary Win9x
systems.  As it is, the WinME boot diskette robs you of control over
the startup process, so you can't use a Config.sys [Menu] to (say)
select whether or not you want memory management, CD drivers etc.

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