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Fat 16 / Fat 32

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ChasGo - 20 Feb 2004 03:52 GMT
If FAT16 doesn't support partitions over 2gb, how is it
that I have a 13GB (non-partioned hard drive) in FAT 16
(as I purchased it)? I'm asking because I've GOT to
understand the differences between these two and whether,
with one hard drive in FAT16, my new one should be
formatted in 16 or 32?
Tim Slattery - 20 Feb 2004 13:49 GMT
>If FAT16 doesn't support partitions over 2gb, how is it
>that I have a 13GB (non-partioned hard drive) in FAT 16
>(as I purchased it)? I'm asking because I've GOT to
>understand the differences between these two and whether,
>with one hard drive in FAT16, my new one should be
>formatted in 16 or 32?

You could use that disk by creating six 2.1GB FAT16 partitions and one
smaller FAT16 partition on it. With FAT32 you could create a single
13GB partition covering the entire disk.

The Win98 (and Win98SE) operating system can handle any combination of
FAT16 and FAT32 partitions, you don't have to use either file system
exclusively.

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Jeff Richards - 20 Feb 2004 22:34 GMT
You can't have a non-partitioned hard drive - Windows won't access it.  You
may have a hard drive set up with a single partition for the whole 13Gb.  In
that case, the partition could not be a standard FAT16 partition. What
exactly are you looking at when you see the partition information?

Do
   CHKDSK
from a DOS prompt and copy/paste the screen display into a reply.

Regardless of the existing partitioning, the new drive should be partitioned
as FAT32.
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> If FAT16 doesn't support partitions over 2gb, how is it
> that I have a 13GB (non-partioned hard drive) in FAT 16
> (as I purchased it)? I'm asking because I've GOT to
> understand the differences between these two and whether,
> with one hard drive in FAT16, my new one should be
> formatted in 16 or 32?
ChasGo - 22 Feb 2004 06:11 GMT
Below are the results from chkdsk: what I'm I using here?

You must use SCANDISK to detect and fix errors on this
drive.

Volume HARD DRIVE created 10-24-2001 3:16a
Volume Serial Number is 36DB-7823

  14,099,280 kilobytes total disk space
   8,273,880 kilobytes free

       8,192 bytes in each allocation unit
   1,762,410 total allocation units on disk
   1,034,235 available allocation units on disk

     651,264 total bytes memory
     578,432 bytes free

Instead of using CHKDSK, try using SCANDISK.  SCANDISK can
reliably detect
and fix a much wider range of disk problems.
>-----Original Message-----
>You can't have a non-partitioned hard drive - Windows won't access it.  You
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Jeff Richards - 22 Feb 2004 20:19 GMT
FAT16 supports a maximum of 65525 (~64k) clusters - that's the biggest
number that can fit in 16 bits (with overhead).  You have 1,762,410
clusters, so the drive must be FAT32.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];118335
Maximum Partition Size Using FAT16 File System
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> Below are the results from chkdsk: what I'm I using here?
>
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> >
> >.
Lil' Dave - 26 Feb 2004 23:39 GMT
There is no such limitation about HD size.  Partition size, yes.  But, you
said its not partitioned.  So, the presentation information is mute.
FAT16 is limited to 2GB capacity.
FAT32 with original fdisk is 64GB partition capacity.
FAT 32 with upgraded fdisk is 132GB partition capacity.

HD cluster size space allocation is the primary consideration after
partition capacity size limits.  There is less space wasted by FAT32 in a
nutshell (cluster size) per file size space allocation.  IE less HD space
wasted writing most files in general using FAT 32.

There are is one advantage of using FAT16 if the file size is not exceeding
2GB, and there only such a few or less large files to exist in such a
partition.  Speed.  Have only utilized this in practice a few times.  Very
limited.

Both FAT16 and FAT32 make dual copy FATs with dos 7.0/Win98  Prior versions
of FAT 16 had only one FAT, no copy.
Dave
> If FAT16 doesn't support partitions over 2gb, how is it
> that I have a 13GB (non-partioned hard drive) in FAT 16
> (as I purchased it)? I'm asking because I've GOT to
> understand the differences between these two and whether,
> with one hard drive in FAT16, my new one should be
> formatted in 16 or 32?
 
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