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L - 27 Nov 2006 00:28 GMT
I have a dialup interface to ISP .  Can I still access my ISP and
download/upload my mail if I have to access ISP via internet and not
dialup.   Example say I am at a location were I only have say wire less
or DSL. Can I connect to my ISP and download my mail. I understand that
I can use WEB mail but its important I have a copy of message on my
machine.   Thanks in advance.
Gary S. Terhune - 27 Nov 2006 01:07 GMT
Provided your ISP is a "normal" one, all you need is an email client.
Windows includes Outlook Express which is one such program. You probably
already have it installed, but it may be outdated. To get the latest OE,
install/reinstall Internet Explorer. IE 6.1 is the last version Win9x can
use. Get it here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/default.mspx

Choose "Minimal or Custom" install option.

Or, go to Add/Remove Programs and double-click the "Microsoft Internet
Explorer (x.xx) and Internet Tools". Assuming it's a recent version that you
have installed, choose Add Components. OE will be offered. If it's BOLD,
then it's already installed. Still, I'd strongly recommend upgrading to
IE6.1 if you aren't already there.

Note that OE is *not* Microsoft Outlook, which is an entirely different
program that's part of MS Office suites.

Once you have OE installed, or have located the already installed program,
you'll need to refer to your ISP's help pages to get the proper
configuration information. If you have any problems, please include the name
of your ISP in future posts.

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>I have a dialup interface to ISP .  Can I still access my ISP and
>download/upload my mail if I have to access ISP via internet and not
>dialup.   Example say I am at a location were I only have say wire less or
>DSL. Can I connect to my ISP and download my mail. I understand that I can
>use WEB mail but its important I have a copy of message on my machine.
>Thanks in advance.
L - 30 Nov 2006 17:21 GMT
>Provided your ISP is a "normal" one, all you need is an email client.
>Windows includes Outlook Express which is one such program. You probably
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>
>  

Well I have IE 6.02XXX with SP1 I guess thats IE 6.1.  I get down to Add
components and I do not find  but I see no OE offered.

The ISP I am dealing with is JOIMAIL.COM which is owned by EARTHLINK and
run by earthlink.

I did install Netgear (WG111v2) on USB 2 wireless adapter on USB 1
port.  I understand speed will be less but that OK.  Even though I can
connect with hub/modem and get a good signal..TCP or link level
protocol  appears to kept me from connecting to the outside world.  
Still not sure what the cause is.
Gary S. Terhune - 30 Nov 2006 18:25 GMT
In Add/Remove Programs, "Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 SP1 and Internet
Tools." Double-click that. Then "Add a Component", OK. The first section is
"Internet Explorer 6", with several components, ending with "Internet
Explorer Browser Enhancements." The second section is "Communication
Components" and the only component in that section is "Outlook Express". The
third section is "Multimedia Components".

I can't answer your networking question, but in order to get email, you need
internet connection. Until you get that established, no email. But it
doesn't matter how you get to the internet, whether Dial-up, DSL hard wired
of a wireless access point. As long as Outlook Express can get to the
internet, it can get to your email, with no change in settings, assuming a
normal ISP and normal configuration. Yours *sounds like* a normal ISP. But I
find no JOIMAIL.COM, only Joymail.com, which doesn't look like what you're
taking about, and JOIMAIL.NET, which looks closer, but also doesn't appear
to offer their own email service, just links to others. Do you have a link
to your ISP's home page?

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> >Provided your ISP is a "normal" one, all you need is an email client.
> >Windows includes Outlook Express which is one such program. You probably
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> protocol  appears to kept me from connecting to the outside world.
> Still not sure what the cause is.
L - 30 Nov 2006 17:24 GMT
Well I have IE 6.02XXX with SP1 I guess thats IE 6.1.  I get down to Add
components and I do not find  but I see no OE offered.

The ISP I am dealing with is JOIMAIL.COM which is owned by EARTHLINK and
run by earthlink.

I did install Netgear (WG111v2) on USB 2 wireless adapter on USB 1
port.  I understand speed will be less but that OK.  Even though I can
connect with hub/modem and get a good signal..TCP or link level
protocol  appears to kept me from connecting to the outside world.  
Still not sure what the cause is.

>Provided your ISP is a "normal" one, all you need is an email client.
>Windows includes Outlook Express which is one such program. You probably
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>  
pjp - 30 Nov 2006 15:40 GMT
Yes

> I have a dialup interface to ISP .  Can I still access my ISP and
> download/upload my mail if I have to access ISP via internet and not
> dialup.   Example say I am at a location were I only have say wire less
> or DSL. Can I connect to my ISP and download my mail. I understand that
> I can use WEB mail but its important I have a copy of message on my
> machine.   Thanks in advance.
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM - 01 Dec 2006 14:29 GMT
>I have a dialup interface to ISP .  Can I still access my ISP and
>download/upload my mail if I have to access ISP via internet and not
>dialup.   Example say I am at a location were I only have say wire less or
>DSL. Can I connect to my ISP and download my mail. I understand that I can
>use WEB mail but its important I have a copy of message on my machine.
>Thanks in advance.

You shouldn't have any trouble downloading the mail, but you may have to use
the Web access to send.  Many ISPs will not let you use their SMTP server if
you are not actually connected directly through them.

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Answer in newsgroup.  Don't send mail.

Gary S. Terhune - 01 Dec 2006 18:14 GMT
When that's the case, don't they usually have a way to authenticate for
SMTP? Or are some of them not even allowing that?

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Gary S. Terhune
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http://grystmill.org/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.org/articles/security.htm

>>I have a dialup interface to ISP .  Can I still access my ISP and
>>download/upload my mail if I have to access ISP via internet and not
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> use the Web access to send.  Many ISPs will not let you use their SMTP
> server if you are not actually connected directly through them.
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM - 02 Dec 2006 03:06 GMT
Some do, some don't.  It's hard to predict.

> When that's the case, don't they usually have a way to authenticate for
> SMTP? Or are some of them not even allowing that?
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>> use the Web access to send.  Many ISPs will not let you use their SMTP
>> server if you are not actually connected directly through them.
Gary S. Terhune - 02 Dec 2006 05:28 GMT
Huh! Guess I'm just lucky that I haven't run into any that don't allow it,
period.

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http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

> Some do, some don't.  It's hard to predict.
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> >> use the Web access to send.  Many ISPs will not let you use their SMTP
> >> server if you are not actually connected directly through them.
 
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