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Windows Forum / Windows 98 / Networking / November 2005DSL router and network
How can I connect two Win98 machines to DSL and to each other? What are my options i. e. routers etc? TIA MM > How can I connect two Win98 machines to DSL and to each other? What are my > options i. e. routers etc? > > TIA MM The three possibilities (at least, the three I can think of): 1) Contract with your ISP for two external IP addresses -- not generally recommended , because unnecessarily expensive -- probably will also require a (cheap) switch for LAN traffic; 2) Microsoft Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) software -- I think it's a bad idea because people often have trouble with it, and it requires that your portal machine be powered on for the secondary machine to connect to the Internet -- also requires two network interfaces in the portal machine; 3) Your choice of router -- that's what I would do -- inexpensive, flexible, and can contribute to security. HTH. JMHO.  SignatureThe e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net. Thanks for reply. What kind of router has options of both DSL and regular network? > 3) Your choice of router -- that's what I would do -- inexpensive, > flexible, and can contribute to security. > Thanks for reply. > > What kind of router has options of both DSL and regular network? Most of them do these days. >>3) Your choice of router -- that's what I would do -- inexpensive, >>flexible, and can contribute to security. SignatureThe e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net. I checked in the routers descriptions and dont see where say that. What options should I look for? > > Thanks for reply. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >>3) Your choice of router -- that's what I would do -- inexpensive, > >>flexible, and can contribute to security. > I checked in the routers descriptions and dont see where say that. > What options should I look for? Typically a router suitable for use with DSL will have "broadband" in its name (if it doesn't explicitly say "DSL"). Realize, though, that some of the DSL "modems" now being provided to new DSL subscribers include routers built-in, so you might already HAVE a router. The LAN side will typically show up on the box as "4-port" (or however many) -- that's your signal that there's a switch built-in. Of course, you can construct your own system using a single port router and a switch (or hub, but hubs seem to be less common every day). But I suspect most people buy the combined item for convenience. >>>Thanks for reply. >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >>>>3) Your choice of router -- that's what I would do -- inexpensive, >>>>flexible, and can contribute to security. SignatureThe e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net. >Thanks for reply. > >What kind of router has options of both DSL and regular network? All that is required is that your DSL modem have an ethernet connector for connecting to the computer. Some DSL modems connect to the computer via USB and not ethernet and this rules out most of the routers currently available. The router (D-Link, Linksys, Belkin, and SMC are some common brand names that most computer stores will stock) should have 5 ethernet connectors - 4 LAN ports for connecting to computers and one WAN (=broadband, cable, DSL) for connecting to the modem. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada SignatureMicrosoft MVP On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP http://aumha.org/alex.htm Thanks for reply! One more question : after buying the router - where can I find instructions for setting up the network? Remember it's 2 Win98 boxes. TIA > >Thanks for reply. > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada >Thanks for reply! >One more question : after buying the router - where can I find instructions >for setting up the network? Remember it's 2 Win98 boxes. The basic instructions should be included in the documentation that comes with the router. Here are some web sites with additional information on basic networking: http://www.sohointer.net/ http://www.practicallynetworked.com http://www.wown.info/j_helmig/guide.htm Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada SignatureMicrosoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca Thanks for reply, For example this one - is it good for my purposes? TRENDware TRENDnet ADSL Firewall Router Model TW100BRM504 http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_techspecs_full.php/masterid=3027874 Another question is there routers which have both wire and wireless connectons? > All that is required is that your DSL modem have an ethernet connector > for connecting to the computer. Some DSL modems connect to the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada >Thanks for reply, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Another question is there routers which have both wire and wireless >connectons? Yes, most wireless routers also have 4 wired connections included. And you can increase the wired connections by using switches. If you connected 8 port switches to each of the 4 wired connetions on the router you could then have 28 PCs connected to the router. Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada SignatureMicrosoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca Hi! 1) So I dont understand - why do I need 5 ports? 2) 8x4 = 32 so why 28 PC's? Regards, MM > Yes, most wireless routers also have 4 wired connections included. And > you can increase the wired connections by using switches. If you > connected 8 port switches to each of the 4 wired connetions on the > router you could then have 28 PCs connected to the router. > > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada One port is needed for the uplink on each switch. :-) SignatureRichard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/ * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > Hi! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada >Hi! > >1) So I dont understand - why do I need 5 ports? You may not need them, but they are included as part of the standard design. Most people have at least one wired PC connected to their routers, because wired connections are faster than wireless and because the router is usually located very near to at least one of PCs. >2) 8x4 = 32 so why 28 PC's? One port on each switch would be used to connect to the router, leaving 7 for PCs. Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada SignatureMicrosoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca Thanks for reply! I am trying to make choice between the pruducts. I couldnt understand difference - what is better for me : http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c% 3DL_Product_C1%26cid%3D1115416939789&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitor Wrapper D-link also has a whole line : http://www.dlink.com/products/category.asp?cid=4&sec=3 How to distingish between them? > Thanks for reply! > > I am trying to make choice between the pruducts. > I couldnt understand difference - what is better for me : http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c% 3DL_Product_C1%26cid%3D1115416939789&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitor > Wrapper >D-link also has a whole line : >http://www.dlink.com/products/category.asp?cid=4&sec=3 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c% 3DL_Product_C1%26cid%3D1115416939789&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitor >> Wrapper Decide what you need and what you don't need. For example, the biggest differences between most of the various models is on the wireless side. If you don't have a current or anticipated future need for wireless networking then you can eliminate all of the wireless models, reducing the number of candidates considerably, and probably saving a bit of money as well. As for D-Link versus Linksys I do not think there is any substantive difference in quality or performance between the two brands, although you will find persons who are ardent adherents of one brand or the other and who will often have a horror story to relate regarding the other brand. For example, on the wired only routers section at D-Link http://www.dlink.com/products/category.asp?cid=2&sec=3 there are 5 models to choose from. The model DI-604 would probably the cheapest and would be fully adequate for everything you have mentioned so far. The model DI-704P is pretty much identical to the DI-604 except that it has a parallel printer port build into the router. This means that you could connect a printer to the router's printer port and access that printer from any computer on the network. Normally in a home network a shared printer is connected to one of the computers and if another computer wants to use the printer then the computer the printer is connected to must be booted up and logged in. With the DI704P this is not necessary. The model DI-704UP is the same as the DI-704P except that it has a USB port to which a USB printer can be connected. Being as most new printers today are USB only this is probably a more usable model than the DI-704P for many people. The model DI-707P is a high capacity version of the DI-704P in that it has 7 LAN ports for computers rather than 4. The model DI-LB604 is a specialized version of the DI-604. The "load balancing" feature is probably something that would only be of interest to persons with a tremendously heavy load on their network and I seriously doubt if any home user would get any benefit from this feature. Hope this is of some assistance. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada SignatureMicrosoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca Thanks for reply! > The model DI-704UP is the same as the DI-704P except that it has a USB > port to which a USB printer can be connected. Being as most new > printers today are USB only this is probably a more usable model than > the DI-704P for many people. I dont see any wireless router with USB port for printer, however. Is there such a thing? Thanks >I dont see any wireless router with USB port for printer, however. Is there >such a thing? > >Thanks Yes. D-Link has one - model DI-704UP - as does SMC two - model SMC2804WBRP-G http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=3&pid=272 http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=viewCategory&localeCode=EN_CAN&cid=1 I have yet to find a wireless router that also incorporated a print server, but these are probably available as well. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada SignatureMicrosoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca Thanks! Model SMC2804WBRP-G has USB 1.1 port so it's excluded. D-Link guy said he cannot say for sure if my printer (Konica Mnolta 2400W) is compatible with their server : **As for your existing Konica 2400W, I couldn`t say for sure if our print servers would be compatible. Ideally, D-Link Print Servers should work with it, so long as your Konica is not an All In One or Multi-Function printer. D-Link Print Servers ( wired or wireless ) will not operate with a multi-function or all in one printers.** Any other suggestons ? > Yes. D-Link has one - model DI-704UP - as does SMC two - model > SMC2804WBRP-G [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I have yet to find a wireless router that also incorporated a print > server, but these are probably available as well. >Thanks! > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Any other suggestons ? No other suggestions for Router models although a Google web search should find you some others if they are available. As for the DI-704UP with multifunction printers, my experience is that it will work, but for printer and fax sending functions only. If you want to use the other features (e.g. scanner) then it needs to be connected to the PC. I am investigating the possibility of using a USB printer autoswitch (for sharing a USB printer automatically between two PCs) in conjunction with an HP LaserJet 3030 and a D-Link DI-704UP. One of the USB inputs will be connected to a PC, the other to the router's USB printer port. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. 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