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*selah* - 16 Nov 2005 07:12 GMT
I've been trying to copy an 8meg folder from one computer to another on
an ethernet connection. I'm unable to copy it all at once. I assume that
there's some size limit.

Was wondering what the size limit is or if there's some way to copy the
whole folder at once? We're using win98 and transferring from a thinkpad
(laptop) to a dell pentiumII tower.
CJT - 16 Nov 2005 07:40 GMT
> I've been trying to copy an 8meg folder from one computer to another on
> an ethernet connection. I'm unable to copy it all at once. I assume that
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> whole folder at once? We're using win98 and transferring from a thinkpad
> (laptop) to a dell pentiumII tower.

Probably at 2 GB issues will arise.  But I've moved files nearly
that big with no problem.

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CJT - 16 Nov 2005 07:44 GMT
>> I've been trying to copy an 8meg folder from one computer to another on
>> an ethernet connection. I'm unable to copy it all at once. I assume that
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> Probably at 2 GB issues will arise.  But I've moved files nearly
> that big with no problem.

... and I should add that I've dealt with _single files_ that big.
I've dealt with folders containing tens of gigabytes, so I doubt
there's any practical limit on that.

For sure, 8 Megs should be easy.

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*selah* - 16 Nov 2005 09:09 GMT
> >> I've been trying to copy an 8meg folder from one computer to another on
> >> an ethernet connection. I'm unable to copy it all at once. I assume that
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>
> For sure, 8 Megs should be easy.

I get an error message when I go over 500 k and it won't transfer.
CJT - 16 Nov 2005 18:29 GMT
>>>>I've been trying to copy an 8meg folder from one computer to
>
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>
> I get an error message when I go over 500 k and it won't transfer.

The obvious question is, "What's the error message?"

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*selah* - 18 Nov 2005 09:20 GMT
> >>>>I've been trying to copy an 8meg folder from one computer to
> >
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> >
> The obvious question is, "What's the error message?"

"Cannot copy file - file system error (1026)"
CJT - 18 Nov 2005 17:06 GMT
>>>>>>I've been trying to copy an 8meg folder from one computer to
>>>
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> "Cannot copy file - file system error (1026)"

Does any of this apply? :

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q208082/

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*selah* - 18 Nov 2005 21:40 GMT
> >>The obvious question is, "What's the error message?"
> >
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>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q208082/

I had already seen this file - in the section that is of interest, all
it says is:

Network Security or Traffic
Check with your Network Administrator to verify that there are no
network security or network traffic issues on the network.
CJT - 18 Nov 2005 22:40 GMT
>>>>The obvious question is, "What's the error message?"
>>>
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> Check with your Network Administrator to verify that there are no
> network security or network traffic issues on the network.

Does the error occur regardless of how you try to copy the file (e.g.
by drag-and-drop vs copy/paste vs ftp)?  Have you tried copying between
the machines that are involved and others on the network to determine
whether the problem is particular to this source and/or target?

When you monitor the status lights on your NIC and/or switch/hub, do you
see anything unexpected (e.g. drop of connectivity, long lags, high
collision rates)?

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*selah* - 19 Nov 2005 07:56 GMT
> >>>>The obvious question is, "What's the error message?"
> >>>
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> see anything unexpected (e.g. drop of connectivity, long lags, high
> collision rates)?

I'm not sure how to do this. The nic on the dell is on the back of the
computer. The one on the laptop is visible and has 3 lights, but I don't
know what they indicate.
*selah* - 19 Nov 2005 10:31 GMT
> I'm not sure how to do this. The nic on the dell is on the back of the
> computer. The one on the laptop is visible and has 3 lights, but I don't
> know what they indicate.

The fd/col and 10/100 lights are steady green, the link/act blinks green
rapidly (on the laptop).
CJT - 20 Nov 2005 19:31 GMT
>>I'm not sure how to do this. The nic on the dell is on the back of the
>>computer. The one on the laptop is visible and has 3 lights, but I
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> The fd/col and 10/100 lights are steady green, the link/act blinks green
> rapidly (on the laptop).

That's as it should be.  I'm curious what happens as a copy fails --
e.g. does the link light go off?  At the same time the disk light comes
on?  How long from when the lights stop flashing until the error is
signaled on the screen?  etc.

I suspect your transfer is proceeding fine until the receive buffers
fill, then (as it's necessary to dump the data to disk on the receiving
end in order to proceed), the sending machine times out.  Unfortunately,
there are MANY reasons that might happen, from faulty software/drivers
to misconfiguration.  No chain is stronger than its weakest link.

I detect from your response that you might be using a crossover cable.

FWIW, I've found use of such cables (i.e. no switch/hub) to be more
troublesome than a "normal" connection.  Switches can be had for under
10 bucks; that would be a cheap thing to try in order to eliminate one
possible source of difficulty.  A store-and-forward switch will help
manage the protocol and perhaps get you past this problem.

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CJT - 21 Nov 2005 03:02 GMT
>>> I'm not sure how to do this. The nic on the dell is on the back of the
>>> computer. The one on the laptop is visible and has 3 lights, but I
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> possible source of difficulty.  A store-and-forward switch will help
> manage the protocol and perhaps get you past this problem.

Re-reading this, I realize I didn't notice before that you say the
"fd/col" light is steady green.  You might want to read the
documentation for your laptop and see if that's normal.  It might
be indicating near-constant collisions.

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*selah* - 21 Nov 2005 23:51 GMT
I tried mapping the network drive as F: and copying the files from dos
and they all copied with no problems.

Seems the problem is with windows somewhere.
CJT - 22 Nov 2005 02:28 GMT
> I tried mapping the network drive as F: and copying the files from dos
> and they all copied with no problems.
>
> Seems the problem is with windows somewhere.

Sure sounds like it.  Is copying them that way an option?  Or do you
still need to find a solution?

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pjp - 19 Nov 2005 06:14 GMT
8meg files and/or folders should be no problems at all. I typically copy 10
to 10,000 meg folders with files being 10 to 600+megs each no problems
across various mix of xp and 98se pc's.

Only time there's a problem it's almost invariably the nic itself at fault
and I have had a couple seemed to work ok until under any amount of stress
then ... nada so ...

> I've been trying to copy an 8meg folder from one computer to another on
> an ethernet connection. I'm unable to copy it all at once. I assume that
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> whole folder at once? We're using win98 and transferring from a thinkpad
> (laptop) to a dell pentiumII tower.
 
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