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Windows Forum / Windows 98 / Networking / July 2008Slow network
Hi, I occasionally need to transfer files from one PC to another at home. I recently attempted to transfer a 1.1gb file from an aging win98 laptop to an XP one. They're both connected via the Netgear router which I use for interenet access, the win98 one via ethernet cable, the XP one usually via wifi. The file took around an hour and a half to be copied, which seems ridiculous to me. I've no idea where to start to see what the problem is. Both PCs seem fine at downloading stuff from the internet (albeit the elderly one is a bit slower, but I think this is just because it's ten years old rather than a connection speed issue). In fact downloading 1.1gb from the internet would be much quicker. I've tried plugging both PCs into ethernet sockets to rule out any problem with wireless and this made very little difference. I've also tried turning off virus protection on the machine to which the file is being transferred. Any pointers or suggestions? I know I could use a crossover cable and cut out the router, but I'd like to try to sort out the problem with the existing setup if possible. In news:287f375c-2f84-4771-9bbb-bcbbb3c503e8@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com at , martin_pentreath@hotmail.com contemplated and posted: | Hi, I occasionally need to transfer files from one PC to another at | home. I recently attempted to transfer a 1.1gb file from an aging [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] | cut out the router, but I'd like to try to sort out the problem with | the existing setup if possible. Could be several things: Let's start here: What router and wireless [makes and models]? You indicate Wi-Fi for the XP, did you try with the XP connected via cable to the router? Are you using mapped drives and transferring via Explorer? IF so which OS is the transfer master? Did you check for adapter settings such as: Flow control; Media Type, etc.. You said you disabled the firewall, was that on both machines? Did you also try disabling Anti-Virus [both machines]?  SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ Thanks for the reply. Answers as follows: > What router and wireless [makes and models]? The router is a Netgear DG 834G. The wireless card in the newer model I'm not sure about, but as I said in the first post I've eliminated wireless from the problem by connecting both computers to the router with ethernet cables. > You indicate Wi-Fi for the XP, did you try with the XP connected via cable > to the router? Yes > Are you using mapped drives and transferring via Explorer? IF so which OS > is the transfer master? I did the transfer by clicking on "My computer" on the XP machine and dragging and the dropping the file from "my network place" to the directory I wanted it in. > Did you check for adapter settings such as: > Flow control; > Media Type, etc.. No, I'll see if I can find these settings, although I don't know what the best settings would be. > You said you disabled the firewall, was that on both machines? I didn't disable any firewalls, only the antivirus on the XP machine. The win98 machine doesn't have any antivirus software, nor to my knowledge a firewall, unless firewalls were an integral part of win98? Thanks for any further advice. In news:bd9d32fa-84cf-4bf6-878c-44e6c81948f1@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com at , martin_pentreath@hotmail.com contemplated and posted: | Thanks for the reply. Answers as follows: | [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] | dragging and the dropping the file from "my network place" to the | directory I wanted it in. Okay, XP > Win98{is it SE?} This isn't likely going to help much, because it could be the router [too many resends due to buffer size or other backups}, XP issues, or 9X. So this is hit and miss, something you're going to have to work through. |> Did you check for adapter settings such as: |> Flow control; |> Media Type, etc.. | | No, I'll see if I can find these settings, although I don't know what | the best settings would be. Try monitoring the local network to see how the connection speed is, and how well it is mantained. Depending upon the findings, you may want to adjust the duplex, flow control, actual connection [10 or 100 or ---] in Control Panel > Network > {adapter} > Advanced. - Sometimes setting the max connect speed to 10 mbps full duplex or half duplex seems to speed the network {the Internet is generally only about 1 mbps or 2 mbps [cable or HSDSL] to your computer, hence there are no buffer problems, fewer resends, etc, so it may SEEM faster} ... another is manually setting MTU, packet size, and other registry settings. Here's an article which explains a few potential issues. http://www.petri.co.il/speed_up_network_file_copying_in_windows_xp.htm - In Windows XP, when I copy files from a network share to my computer, I get a very slow transfer rate. How can I speed the copying of files? |> You said you disabled the firewall, was that on both machines? | | I didn't disable any firewalls, only the antivirus on the XP machine. | The win98 machine doesn't have any antivirus software, nor to my | knowledge a firewall, unless firewalls were an integral part of win98? 98 has no built-in firewall. Gary suggested something which might be what you eventually do IF its the 9X computer causing the problem, however ... What firewall are you using on the XP machine? | Thanks for any further advice. What is the update status of the XP computer? Here's why [some of the XP updates related to networking issues]: The Explorer.exe process stops responding when you use network shortcuts in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/841978/ User authentication may take one to two minutes when you log on to the network in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/884862/ The network provider may not function as expected on your Windows XP-based computer http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885423/ Windows Firewall may drop ICMP packets on a Windows XP SP2-based computer that has more than one network adapter http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907717/ An update is available that lets Windows XP-based DNS client computers accept packets of up to 64 KB http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909390/ You may experience network connection problems on a Windows XP SP2-based computer or a Windows Server 2003 SP1-based computer that has more than one network adapter http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913522/ Network Diagnostics for Windows XP is available to help identify and fix network connection problems http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914440/ You experience slow performance when you try to access shared resources by using Windows Explorer on a client computer that is running Windows XP or Windows Server 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/915377/ You experience significant delays when you use network shortcuts on a computer that is running Windows XP SP2 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918204/ A computer may use the Offline Files feature to access a shared network resource even though the network connection has sufficient speed in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927507/ When Internet Explorer 6 is installed on a Windows XP-based computer, it takes longer than expected to browse the subfolders in the Favorites folder and to open a network share that is mapped to a toolbar http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940277/ SP 3 corrects a number of networking issues with/in XP. SignatureMEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ Suggest you remove ALL networking components on the 98 machine, (Control Panel > Network), reboot and let them reinstall. If no change, do the same on the XP machine (though I more suspect the 98 machine.) (Just remove all adapters present in the Network applet.) I know this sounds drastic, but it's relatively painless and often fixes a world of woes. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://grystmill.com > Hi, I occasionally need to transfer files from one PC to another at > home. I recently attempted to transfer a 1.1gb file from an aging [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > cut out the router, but I'd like to try to sort out the problem with > the existing setup if possible. martin_pentreath@hotmail.com;224306 Wrote: > Hi, I occasionally need to transfer files from one PC to another at > home. I recently attempted to transfer a 1.1gb file from an aging [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > cut out the router, but I'd like to try to sort out the problem with > the existing setup if possible. the pc speed depends on various factors and the thing and some fac that the virus cab be removed by some antiviru installation................. -- akhanna01 |
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