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Can't find server after working offline?

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jt3 - 14 Feb 2007 08:15 GMT
Does anyone have an idea of why OE can't find the server if I've been
offline (in OE) and then try to 'Send/Recv'-- bringing up the DUN app, which
tries, but finally times out saying it can't find the server?  If I close
down OE, then restart OE, it will work just fine.  This is with the modem
having been connected from the point where DUN had been trying before.
Also, IE will work just fine in such cases.

W98se, IE6, OE6, old, slow AMD K6-II 450Mhz machine with 384MB, and dial-up,
of course.  Uses a 'hardware assisted' modem using the Intel 536EP chip.

Clearly not world-shaking, but an annoyance; happy to hear any ideas on the
matter.

Thanks,
Joe
Michael Santovec - 14 Feb 2007 19:03 GMT
Do you mean that you've select File, Work Offline in OE?  If so, have
you gone back and unchecked the Work Offline before trying again?

In Tools, Accounts, Mail, Properties, Connection, have you set OE to
dial?

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> Does anyone have an idea of why OE can't find the server if I've been
> offline (in OE) and then try to 'Send/Recv'-- bringing up the DUN app,
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> Thanks,
> Joe
jt3 - 15 Feb 2007 07:48 GMT
Yes, and yes.  But I think I may have discovered the problem.  If it checks
out (or not) I will post back.

Thanks,
Joe
> Do you mean that you've select File, Work Offline in OE?  If so, have
> you gone back and unchecked the Work Offline before trying again?
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> > Joe
jt3 - 16 Feb 2007 21:48 GMT
No, I didn't discover the problem, but perhaps clarified it a little.

It goes this way:

Open OE, DUN comes up, click 'connect', everything is fine, do some email,
ngs, etc.

Then, say, I want to go offline and stay in OE, perhaps to manipulate some
saved posts from local folder to local folder.
Click 'File', 'Work Offline', and dialog box comes up to ask if I want to
disconnect the modem.

*If* I disconnect, and subsequently do a 'Send/Receive', it naturally tells
me I'm offline, do I want to connect? so I click to connect.  DUN comes up,
connection is made, but OE sits there and can't find the server.

That is what I *recall* it said before, but, now that I have the dialup set
to
occur only if I'm not working offline, it says: 'Connection to the server
has failed, pop.gmail.com, POP3, port 995, SSL: yes, Socket Error 10060,
Error # 0x800ccc0e'.

And if I do nothing but close OE and open IE, everything is just fine.  If I
close OE and then reopen, everything is just fine--*just as long as I don't
shut down DUN*.

If I choose not to close down DUN back at the original choice to Work
Offline, then none of this happens.  When I go back online in this case,
everything is just fine.

Use ZA free firewall, AVG is set NOT to scan email, and I checked the KB for
the error but didn't find anything that seems to apply (don't have MSN).
The thing that strikes me is that the port #995, which I assume is the
result of
using the gmail POP3 setup app and is associated with the correct (incoming)
server under the account properties, sounds somewhat similar to the
description of the MSN problem in KB302339 and might point out the problem
to someone who properly understood all this (not me).

I should mention that this is hardly a big deal, since it is easy enough to
avoid, just a nuisance, but I've been a little concerned that it might be a
sign of a more serious problem.

Hope this is not too muddy.

Joe

> Yes, and yes.  But I think I may have discovered the problem.  If it checks
> out (or not) I will post back.
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> > > Thanks,
> > > Joe
Michael Santovec - 17 Feb 2007 01:59 GMT
What do you have set in OE at Tools, Accounts, Mail/News, Connections?
Each mail and news account could have different settings.  For any
accounts that have the Include this account when checking on the General
tab checked that they all have identical settings on the connections
tab.

Also, what are you settings in IE at Tools, Internet Options,
Connections?

One thing to be aware of, The File, Work Offline setting is shared by IE
and OE.  When you change it in one program it changes in the other.

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> No, I didn't discover the problem, but perhaps clarified it a little.
>
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>> > > Joe
jt3 - 17 Feb 2007 08:00 GMT
All the connections are set for 'automatically detect . . .'; there are no
default overrides for this setting on any of the accounts.

The mail and news accounts are all 'any available connection'.

IE is checked 'always dial default' (which is Zipcon, my ISP).

For the pop.gmail.com server, out is 465, in is 995;  for the zipcon.com
server, it's 25 and 110.

For the news.zipcon.net and the msnews.microsoft.com it's 119.  The two mail
accounts are both checked for inclusion when receiving or synchronizing, but
the news accounts are not (I generally check ngs once a day, in the evening,
but email more often).

I think this covers all you asked about.  I don't see any inconsistencies,
but then, I probably wouldn't.

I had noticed the behaviour of the 'Work Offline' wrt IE & OE--it seems
perfectly logical to me.  Generally, the only problems I have with IE are
the same ones everyone has, and, of course, they require the usual
attentions.  I generally dump the TIFs every couple of days, am careful to
'stop' some process that seems to have timed-out too long, and restart it.
But that's another story.  However, if the cache has gotten too loaded up,
it *seems* more likely that the modem will drop the connection when in IE;
it virtually never does it with OE.  Though it's tempting to think it might
just be the modem, this last behaviour is too consistent for me to be
inclined that way.

Thanks for your time and help,
Joe

> What do you have set in OE at Tools, Accounts, Mail/News, Connections?
> Each mail and news account could have different settings.  For any
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> >> > > Joe
Michael Santovec - 17 Feb 2007 18:38 GMT
The 'any available connection' setting in your mail and news accounts
means that OE will Not dial itself.  It assumes that there is an
Internet connection available and blindly tries to use it.  It assumes
that if this PC uses a dial-up connection, the IE settings will cause
dialing to occur whenever an application tries to use the Internet.

Try this: In the 2 mail accounts for the Connections tab, specify to
always dial your Zipcon connection.

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> All the connections are set for 'automatically detect . . .'; there
> are no
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jt3 - 18 Feb 2007 07:52 GMT
You indeed know of what you speak.  I did as you suggested and the problem
is gone.

Thank you very much!
Joe

> The 'any available connection' setting in your mail and news accounts
> means that OE will Not dial itself.  It assumes that there is an
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> >> >> > > Joe
Michael Santovec - 18 Feb 2007 18:39 GMT
You are welcome.

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> You indeed know of what you speak.  I did as you suggested and the
> problem
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