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Windows Forum / Windows 98 / Performance / June 2005Unexpected Defrag Problems
W98SE. I am suddenly experiencing problems when running Disk Defrag. I shut down all the usual programs and until the past 4 days have never had any problem with this. Now, Windows freezes when I get to between 40 and 47% defrag and I have to reboot each time. Any guidance or solution would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Flusters >W98SE. I am suddenly experiencing problems when running Disk Defrag. I shut >down all the usual programs and until the past 4 days have never had any [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Any guidance or solution would be appreciated. Thanks in advance >Flusters Have you tried defragging in safe mode? Posting from Peter Rogers Replace NOSPAM with ntlworld to reply Peter Thanks but no I haven't. I presume that I can, but I really wanted to cure the pesky problem if at all possible, rather than a work-round. Flusters > >W98SE. I am suddenly experiencing problems when running Disk Defrag. I shut > >down all the usual programs and until the past 4 days have never had any [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Replace NOSPAM with ntlworld to reply >Peter >Thanks but no I haven't. >I presume that I can, but I really wanted to cure the pesky problem if at >all possible, rather than a work-round. >Flusters Are you closing all programs other than Explorer and Systray and turning off your screensaver? If that doesn't work, have a look at the following link: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/218160/EN-US/ Posting from Peter Rogers Replace NOSPAM with ntlworld to reply >Peter >Thanks but no I haven't. >I presume that I can, but I really wanted to cure the pesky problem if at >all possible, rather than a work-round. >Flusters I have finally decided that Safe Mode is the only way i am going to get it done. I do it once a month. In MSCONFIG, enable startup menu in General>Advanced and reboot and you will get a menu and can choose Safe Mode from there. (obviously, afterwards, go back and dis-enable it) jrp > W98SE. I am suddenly experiencing problems when running Disk Defrag. I shut > down all the usual programs and until the past 4 days have never had any [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Any guidance or solution would be appreciated. Thanks in advance > Flusters Besides the other suggestions, try a scandisk first. Then a virus and spyware check. Note, if you have SpyBot and use TeaTimer, defrag will not run properly. > W98SE. I am suddenly experiencing problems when running Disk Defrag. I shut > down all the usual programs and until the past 4 days have never had any > problem with this. > Now, Windows freezes when I get to between 40 and 47% defrag and I have to > reboot each time. You need to run SCANDISK before DEFRAG. Both are best done in Safe Mode.  SignatureDon Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) Peter, jrp, Buffalo, Don Thanks for all your suggestions. I have always closed all programs except Systray and Explorer using "EndItAll", disable web display, leave power settings "always on". In addition, I disable Spyware Blaster. Have now deleted Applog folder and a very big backup file which I had made middle of last week ie since my previous successful Scandisk/Defrag runs. Both Scandisk and Defrag ran to completion in Safe Mode but both refuse to complete the task in normal mode. Scandisk did not come up with any problem sectors but my Scandisk.ini setting for NumPasses was only 2. Will try it overnight with a setting of 5, when I return in 3 weeks. Otherwise, the only info I can give is that I use Zone Alarms, AVG 7, AD-Aware SE, Spy Blaster, Crap Cleaner, CW Shredder, PC Bug Doctor, Spybot-Search and Destroy , keep everything up to date and this problem is recent (6 days old). Nothing has been downloaded in that time. If anyone has further thoughts while I am away on the underlying reason or cure, then I would be very grateful to hear. Thanks for every thing so far. Flusters > > W98SE. I am suddenly experiencing problems when running Disk Defrag. I > shut [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > You need to run SCANDISK before DEFRAG. > Both are best done in Safe Mode. >Peter, jrp, Buffalo, Don >Thanks for all your suggestions. >I have always closed all programs except Systray and Explorer using >"EndItAll", disable web display, leave power settings "always on". In >addition, I disable Spyware Blaster. I have been the "disable everything but the bare minimum in normal mode" And *still* had "disk has changed" restarts. What I hold pretty closely and seldom say is that once I had a "disk has changed" restart of defrag in Safe Mode. :-) >Have now deleted Applog folder and a very big backup file which I had made >middle of last week ie since my previous successful Scandisk/Defrag runs. >Both Scandisk and Defrag ran to completion in Safe Mode but both refuse to >complete the task in normal mode. Scandisk did not come up with any problem >sectors but my Scandisk.ini setting for NumPasses was only 2. Will try it >overnight with a setting of 5, when I return in 3 weeks. Start it before you leave, it should be finished when you get back. :-) I once did a scandisk pattern write surface check --- once. (1.7 gig processor) FACE >Otherwise, the only info I can give is that I use Zone Alarms, AVG 7, >AD-Aware SE, Spy Blaster, Crap Cleaner, CW Shredder, PC Bug Doctor, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> You need to run SCANDISK before DEFRAG. >> Both are best done in Safe Mode. > Peter, jrp, Buffalo, Don > Thanks for all your suggestions. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Thanks for every thing so far. > Flusters Something is writing to the disk. Something like a motherboard monitor (ie: system temp monitor, etc) SpyBot has the 'teatimer' running. Auto update program running. Safe Mode stops most device drivers from loading. Aside from shuting down all background programs, you'll also need to disconnect all network cables from the system. If memory serves me, someone once posted or told me about corrupt registry problems if defrag is run from safe mode!? Another reason you don't want to run defrag in safe mode is that it runs ssssooooo ssssslllloooowwww. > Peter, jrp, Buffalo, Don > Thanks for all your suggestions. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Thanks for every thing so far. > Flusters |
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