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Bible John - 05 Sep 2005 22:33 GMT
Get this whenever I run Eudora

EUDORA caused an invalid page fault in
module MFC42.DLL at 017f:5f404833.
Registers:
EAX=000001fb CS=017f EIP=5f404833 EFLGS=00010202
EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=0081e1ec EBP=0081e21c
ECX=00000000 DS=0187 ESI=bff554b3 FS=2867
EDX=00000000 ES=0187 EDI=00000062 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 41 3c 85 c0 0f 85 8d 9a 05 00 6a ec ff 71 20
Stack dump:
5f414012 00000062 0094a664 00000000 0081e1ec 0081e344 5f493163 ffffffff
00000199 00000002 000001fb 0000016c 0081e2a4 5f413d5b 0081e24c 00000000

ERROR #2

OLEPRO32.DLL cant be found-Get this whenever I try and open up Resco Photo
Viewer

MSCVRT40.dll-Get this whenever I try and open up MS Outlook

Thanks,

John

PS-  Sine my apple ibook is also having major issues at the moment and I am
trying to repair it as well my Internet conection is shacky.  Good think my
PC laptop is able to access the web, although I admit a PII 266mhz can be
slow, and much slower than a 1.2ghz Power PC G4 with 512MB of RAM. But what
can I do if both my Mac and PC laptop go down?  I'd have no choice but to
use my Windows CE handheld.  Rogue and John Weatherly you guys are PC techs,
what do you say?
galia - 05 Sep 2005 22:48 GMT
| Get this whenever I run Eudora
|
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| 5f414012 00000062 0094a664 00000000 0081e1ec 0081e344 5f493163 ffffffff
| 00000199 00000002 000001fb 0000016c 0081e2a4 5f413d5b 0081e24c 00000000

You could do a google search, if you are able to access the internet.
Type in the error message and see what it comes up with.
I always do this and have so far always corrected my glitches.

| ERROR #2
|
| OLEPRO32.DLL cant be found-Get this whenever I try and open up Resco Photo
| Viewer

Search your harddrive to see if the above dll-file is in your system folder;
propably C:Windows/system or C:Windows/system32
Maybe it's missing, or maybe it is corrupted; either way you have to replace
it.
To replace it, extract it from the "cab-files"; these are the setup files
for Windows98
(I think)

| MSCVRT40.dll-Get this whenever I try and open up MS Outlook

Do the same for this one....

| Thanks,
|
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
| use my Windows CE handheld.  Rogue and John Weatherly you guys are PC techs,
| what do you say?
Bible John - 06 Sep 2005 01:29 GMT
I tried and got everything working except Eudora, which I may need to
reinstall.  I wont ever install aol extra garbage again.

John

> | Get this whenever I run Eudora
> |
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> techs,
> | what do you say?
ujb - 06 Sep 2005 01:37 GMT
> I tried and got everything working except Eudora, which I may need to
> reinstall.  I wont ever install aol extra garbage again.
>
> John

I don't see a thank you GalIa?

> > | Get this whenever I run Eudora
> > |
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
> > techs,
> > | what do you say?
Cartaphilus - 06 Sep 2005 01:41 GMT
> Get this whenever I run Eudora
>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> use my Windows CE handheld.  Rogue and John Weatherly you guys are PC techs,
> what do you say?

 it's called a core dump, dumbass....and it's caused by a data flaw
 on your HDD, the sector where the files you named are written. Do a
low level format on your HDD to correct the problem, and re-install the OS.

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here_and_there - 06 Sep 2005 13:27 GMT
>> Get this whenever I run Eudora
>>
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>  on your HDD, the sector where the files you named are written. Do a
>low level format on your HDD to correct the problem, and re-install the OS.
And if you believe the above, you are a dumb a.s.  A low level format
will wipe out all your data and program files.  Ignore this advice.
Cartaphilus - 06 Sep 2005 23:07 GMT
>>>Get this whenever I run Eudora
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> And if you believe the above, you are a dumb a.s.  A low level format
> will wipe out all your data and program files.  Ignore this advice.

  Thats the entire point of it, dumbass. A "write around" on an HDD
having a bad sector, deleting ALL data, BAD and good, is the only
reliable method of POSTING this info to Wintrash.

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holy dog - 22 Sep 2005 19:24 GMT
a low level format will not mark bad sectors

> >>>Get this whenever I run Eudora
> >>>
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> having a bad sector, deleting ALL data, BAD and good, is the only
> reliable method of POSTING this info to Wintrash.
Mike Painter - 06 Sep 2005 03:27 GMT
> Get this whenever I run Eudora
>
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>
> MSCVRT40.dll-Get this whenever I try and open up MS Outlook

Windows XP was more stable when released  than 98 was at the end of it's
life.

More and more software is taking advnatage of the new features in XP and not
writing for legacy applications any more.
The next generation of Windows will have much less support for old stuff and
it will be compartmentalized more.

If you insist on using an ancient OS you will continue to have problems and
they will increase every time you update to a newer version of a package you
like.
j-w <jw - 06 Sep 2005 13:33 GMT
copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
author.
>Get this whenever I run Eudora

x-no-archive: yes

>Get this whenever I run Eudora

(I'm gonna  hate my self in the morning  for doing this )

:-(

You said you have the cash to buy pretty much what you want.

Go on ebay. Find a copy of Windows XP Pro (you can get it for $75 or
less with the Buy it Now option)  Do not skimp and buy XP Home. It's
stripped down.

Load XP Pro.  You may need your 98 CD so keep it handy.

Get a FREE e-mail account on Yahoo or Hotmail.

ALL you have to do is sign up.

(I'd personally avoid Hotmail, since it is owned by scum of the earth
Bill Gates, the world's richest white-collar criminal.)

Problems 99.9 % solved.

>EUDORA caused an invalid page fault in
>module MFC42.DLL at 017f:5f404833.
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>use my Windows CE handheld.  Rogue and John Weatherly you guys are PC techs,
>what do you say?
webworm11@lycos.com - 06 Sep 2005 15:36 GMT
>  copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
> this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
> >
> >John

That is incorrect he would still have this on xp.  I have both 98se and
xp.

The fix is this
Close eudora
Stat menu run box
notepad c:\eudora\eudora.ini

ACAP must be set at 0 unless you have an ACAP server-most people dont.
the nosplashscreen=1 helps prevent crashes when loading
UseACAPServer=0
NoSplashScreen=1

Safe file.

Note the eudora.ini
could be located in c:\program files\eudora
or
could be located in c:\windows
or
Elsewhere

Greg Ro
Plus Bible john did not need to post to seven groups
VO - 06 Sep 2005 15:57 GMT
>> copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>>this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
[quoted text clipped - 75 lines]
> Greg Ro
> Plus Bible john did not need to post to seven groups

Eudora, the one that works, costs

IE is free

Mozilla thunderbird is free and powerfully.

Realize that 98 is the special Ford model T with belt drive..  It don't
take transmission fluid.
j-w <jw - 06 Sep 2005 22:20 GMT
copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
author.
>>> copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>>>this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
[quoted text clipped - 81 lines]
>
>Mozilla thunderbird is free and powerfully.

Mozilla Fire Fox is also free. But it's not e-mail. It's a browser,
but it's faster than IE.

jw

>Realize that 98 is the special Ford model T with belt drive..  It don't
>take transmission fluid.
Buffalo - 07 Sep 2005 18:46 GMT
.

> Mozilla Fire Fox is also free. But it's not e-mail. It's a browser,
> but it's faster than IE.
>
> jw

You know, I keep hear people saying that FF is faster, but it seems no faster
than IE, in fact it evens takes a little longer to initially load up for me.
Win98SE,768MB ram and 1.8GHz cpu.
It also causes me problems when I download files with it (by the time I pick out
where to save the file, the dl won't start. I have to close out of FF, delete
the cache and then go back to the website and then it will download the file,
but sometimes only part of it).
No such problems using IE to download files.
It is probably a safer browser, but it certainly has its drawbacks.
VO - 07 Sep 2005 20:39 GMT
> .
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> No such problems using IE to download files.
> It is probably a safer browser, but it certainly has its drawbacks.

FF isn't faster (they don't even say so).
It's safer and maybe faster because of blocking.
Grinder - 07 Sep 2005 22:09 GMT
>> .
>>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> FF isn't faster (they don't even say so).
> It's safer and maybe faster because of blocking.

For me the winning sell point for Firefox is the Adblock add-in.
http://adblock.mozdev.org/
VO - 07 Sep 2005 22:26 GMT
>>> .
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> For me the winning sell point for Firefox is the Adblock add-in.
> http://adblock.mozdev.org/

That's the feeling of most.
I like it because (for me) I have more control of incoming windows and
ads and pop ups.  It's also nice to have at least one thing that is not MS.
j-w <jw - 08 Sep 2005 01:31 GMT
copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
author.

>>> .
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>For me the winning sell point for Firefox is the Adblock add-in.
>http://adblock.mozdev.org/

The problem I have with the adblock feature is that it too often
blocks downloads, and it blocks pop-up windows when you click on
links.

For those two reasons, and no easy or readily apparent turn-off for
the blocking feature, I'll stick with IE, or find something else.

Anybody know about a browser whose name begins with a "P", like
"Paradise?"

I also liked Opera the brief time I used it.

Only you have to buy it.

john w
Grinder - 08 Sep 2005 01:46 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
>  copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> For those two reasons, and no easy or readily apparent turn-off for
> the blocking feature, I'll stick with IE, or find something else.

I think you may be confusing Adblock with some other add-in.  It permits
 an highly articulated control over what is blocked -- down to the
individual url -- frame, script, image -- if you wish.

If you cut too deeply, I can see where it could cause your problems, but
I've not experienced it.  In fact, it looks as if much of the
advertising that bloats out websites comes from off-site servers that
exist only for that purpose.  By carefully applying wildcards, you can
drop the crap without hindering the site that's paid for by it.
Grinder - 08 Sep 2005 01:52 GMT
> I think you may be confusing Adblock with some other add-in.  It permits
>  an highly articulated control over what is blocked -- down to the
> individual url -- frame, script, image -- if you wish.

From reading additional things that you've written I suspect that
you're talking about the built-in blocking done by Firefox.  While you
were test-driving Firefox, did you install any add-ins?
j-w <jw - 08 Sep 2005 01:29 GMT
copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
author.
>> .
>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>FF isn't faster (they don't even say so).

I was ATTEMPTING to say "faster in some ways, under some conditions".

I personally have stopped using it.

john w

>It's safer and maybe faster because of blocking.
j-w <jw - 08 Sep 2005 01:27 GMT
copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
author.

>.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>You know, I keep hear people saying that FF is faster, but it seems no faster
>than IE,

Agreed. It is marginally faster with a squeaky clean machine. And who
wants to clean their machine top-to-bottom (registry cleaning, cache
cleaning, defragging) )each time they want to load a browser?

I was making a point that FireFox was comparable. I don't believe I
indicated it's superior. If I gave that impression, I apologize.

In fact, I gave FireFox a 2-week run, and went back to IE. The one I
might CONSIDER next is Opera, when I have the $$$ to buy it.

One of my major objections to FireFox is that if your machine isn't
squeaky clean, it sometimes won't load at all. I also download a LOT,
which FireFox considers a "virus" and blocks. It sometimes gives you a
message if you wish to "unblock". As often, it doesn't.

It also blocks a lot of pop-ups that I want. Typically, I click a link
for a new window, and FireFox won't allow it to open.

And if I can't use FireFox as extensively, as easily, as intuitively
as IE, I'll stick with IE.

Do you happen to know of a browser named something like "Paradise"? I
believe it begins with a "P". I heard a techhie reporter recently
review half-a-dozen browsers. He picked the one with the "P", but I
wasn't in a situation to write it down at the time, and I forgot it.

I saw FireFox mentioned someplace, and I tried it. Didn't like it
after 2 weeks.

in fact it evens takes a little longer to initially load up for me.
>Win98SE,768MB ram and 1.8GHz cpu.

Well, I'm running XP Pro, 512 MB RAM, which I'm going to boot up to 1
Ghz soon, on a 1.8 Ghz cpu.  So we have SORT of comparable systems.

Though I'd STRONGLY recommend you hop onto ebay and buy a under $100
copy of XP Pro. It's FAR superior to 98, which I ran FAR too long.

I found a copy for under $70, and I saw it listed with the "Buy It
Now" option. Everyone else was bidding $40, $42, $45, and I thought,
$60 ain't bad! So I grabbed it with the "Buy It Now" option.

>It also causes me problems when I download files with it (by the time I pick out
>where to save the file, the dl won't start. I have to close out of FF, delete
>the cache and then go back to the website and then it will download the file,
>but sometimes only part of it).

"Yep".

>No such problems using IE to download files.

Yep.

>It is probably a safer browser, but it certainly has its drawbacks.

It supposedly doesn't have the "holes", but since I run multiple virus
s/w and AdAware Pro, AND Spybot, I get few to zero virus problems.

C ya!

john w
here_and_there - 06 Sep 2005 22:21 GMT
>>> copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>>>this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
[quoted text clipped - 77 lines]
>
>Eudora, the one that works, costs

??  I am using Eudora for free - has a few adverts that I never notice

>IE is free
>
>Mozilla thunderbird is free and powerfully.
>
>Realize that 98 is the special Ford model T with belt drive..  It don't
>take transmission fluid.
VO - 07 Sep 2005 00:59 GMT
>>>>copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>>>>this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
[quoted text clipped - 79 lines]
>
> ??  I am using Eudora for free - has a few adverts that I never notice

The Eudora that is worth running is $50.00.

Go to http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

It's free, blocks most junk and pop ups.
Takes a little time to figure, has filters and everything.

>>IE is free
>>
>>Mozilla thunderbird is free and powerfully.
>>
>>Realize that 98 is the special Ford model T with belt drive..  It don't
>>take transmission fluid.
here_and_there - 07 Sep 2005 02:45 GMT
>>>>>copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>>>>>this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
[quoted text clipped - 81 lines]
>
>The Eudora that is worth running is $50.00.

I am running the free version with no problems.  What do I get for
$50?

>Go to http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>>Realize that 98 is the special Ford model T with belt drive..  It don't
>>>take transmission fluid.
VO - 07 Sep 2005 03:11 GMT
>>>>>>copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>>>>>>this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
[quoted text clipped - 84 lines]
> I am running the free version with no problems.  What do I get for
> $50?

Eudora's prime claim to fame is its ability to handle massive amounts of
e-mail easily.

>>Go to http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>>>Realize that 98 is the special Ford model T with belt drive..  It don't
>>>>take transmission fluid.
here_and_there - 08 Sep 2005 00:43 GMT
>>>>>>>copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>>>>>>>this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
[quoted text clipped - 87 lines]
>Eudora's prime claim to fame is its ability to handle massive amounts of
>e-mail easily.

Yes, the free version does that for me.  Have you ever used Eudora?

>>>Go to http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>>>>Realize that 98 is the special Ford model T with belt drive..  It don't
>>>>>take transmission fluid.
VO - 08 Sep 2005 16:26 GMT
>>>>>>>>copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>>>>>>>>this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
[quoted text clipped - 89 lines]
>
> Yes, the free version does that for me.  Have you ever used Eudora?

I have tried the freeby a couple times.  I don't want advertising.
If it works for you, great.
Any program that gives me the slightest problem is history.  I find that
different ones have different advantages and shortcomings.  I paid for
the good version of BNR2 and Agent.  They are great for binaries and "I"
don't like them for standard NGs or E-mail.

>>>>Go to http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>>>>>Realize that 98 is the special Ford model T with belt drive..  It don't
>>>>>>take transmission fluid.
here_and_there - 08 Sep 2005 23:04 GMT
>>>>>>>>>copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>>>>>>>>>this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
[quoted text clipped - 93 lines]
>If it works for you, great.
>Any program that gives me the slightest problem is history.  I find that

So when did you stop using Windows??

>different ones have different advantages and shortcomings.  I paid for
>the good version of BNR2 and Agent.  They are great for binaries and "I"
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>>>>>>Realize that 98 is the special Ford model T with belt drive..  It don't
>>>>>>>take transmission fluid.
VO - 08 Sep 2005 23:58 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>>>>>>>>>>this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
[quoted text clipped - 95 lines]
>
> So when did you stop using Windows??

Cute.

I have Xp pro.
I have no problems with it.

Back in the days of 98, I went to NT then 2000.  Stability
One system was Unix.

I service some computers with 98, 98SE and yuck ME.
"The customer is always right???"  If they pay, they are.

>>different ones have different advantages and shortcomings.  I paid for
>>the good version of BNR2 and Agent.  They are great for binaries and "I"
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>>>>>>>Realize that 98 is the special Ford model T with belt drive..  It don't
>>>>>>>>take transmission fluid.
here_and_there - 09 Sep 2005 14:24 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>>>>>>>>>>>this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
[quoted text clipped - 100 lines]
>I have Xp pro.
>I have no problems with it.

Maybe you aren't trying hard enough.  Has failed for me a couple of
times.  Frankly, if you have not had a single problem with a software
package, then you must not have taken it out of the shrink wrap :)

>Back in the days of 98, I went to NT then 2000.  Stability
>One system was Unix.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>>>>>>>>>Realize that 98 is the special Ford model T with belt drive..  It don't
>>>>>>>>>take transmission fluid.
VO - 09 Sep 2005 15:00 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
>>>>>>>>>>>>this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
[quoted text clipped - 104 lines]
> times.  Frankly, if you have not had a single problem with a software
> package, then you must not have taken it out of the shrink wrap :)

1. If the software just doesn't do something, that is just the way it is.
2. If the software fails to do what it says, it's gone.
3. If I haven't read the directions, my problem.

I put most software through their paces and gripe to the writers if they
have overlooked something.

>>Back in the days of 98, I went to NT then 2000.  Stability
>>One system was Unix.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>>>>>>>>>>Realize that 98 is the special Ford model T with belt drive..  It don't
>>>>>>>>>>take transmission fluid.
Doc Watson - 07 Sep 2005 15:39 GMT
>??  I am using Eudora for free - has a few adverts that I never notice

I have used Eudora and never had any problems with it --- have you
tried doing an uninstall of it, then re-download the program for a new
install?
It sounds to me like you've lost a file or two in the download, or
they have been corrupted in transit.

Also- if you decide to change email programs, you might consider
trying Incredimail. It is also free, and has lots of great features,
such as an email bouncer for those you do not want bugging you- and it
will also post back to the offenders that your email does not exist!!

http://www.incredimail.com/

Hope this helps --

Doc
VO - 07 Sep 2005 16:26 GMT
>>??  I am using Eudora for free - has a few adverts that I never notice
>
> I have used Eudora and never had any problems with it

You are the one telling EVERYONE all of the things you cannot do with
your e-mail system.

Don't tell anyone that you have no problem.
Something that does nothing cannot give a problem.
Doc Watson - 07 Sep 2005 16:58 GMT
>You are the one telling EVERYONE all of the things you cannot do with
>your e-mail system.
>
>Don't tell anyone that you have no problem.
>Something that does nothing cannot give a problem.

I had nothing BUT problems with Outlook Express. I HAD NO PROBLEMS
with Eudora.

I tell it like it is.
VO - 07 Sep 2005 20:41 GMT
>>You are the one telling EVERYONE all of the things you cannot do with
>>your e-mail system.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I tell it like it is.

Not liking IE is one thing.
Problems is lack of knowledge.

You are the one who says you cannot filter.
Doc Watson - 08 Sep 2005 18:44 GMT
>Not liking IE is one thing.
>Problems is lack of knowledge.
>
>You are the one who says you cannot filter.

Big deal.
I never like Outlook Express, and never will.
VO - 08 Sep 2005 19:36 GMT
>>Not liking IE is one thing.
>>Problems is lack of knowledge.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Big deal.
>  I never like Outlook Express, and never will.

Fine.
Big deal
It is over the head of some.
Mike Painter - 09 Sep 2005 03:42 GMT
>>> Not liking IE is one thing.
>>> Problems is lack of knowledge.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Big deal
> It is over the head of some.

Shame on you.
That was nasty.
.
.
.
.
Do it again.

I've occasionally missed things in Windows like better ways to search but
it's hard enough to teach people even slightly more complex ways and for the
occasional user the "*" is more than enough.

Same for the limited filtering on OE. It will do what 90% of the users want
and it has more features than any of the free versions of readers I've
looked at.
Doc Watson - 09 Sep 2005 14:00 GMT
On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 02:42:18 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> said the following funny stuff in this
here little old new 'froup:

>>>> Not liking IE is one thing.
>>>> Problems is lack of knowledge.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>That was nasty.
>.
I am not letting it bother me, Mike.
The fact remains I don't like Outlook Express, which is a mere choice
on my part, but it appears Vernon chooses to make a near-Federal case
out of my decision to opt for another program.
I was merely trying to help the person out who is having the
problems, is all.

>Do it again.
>
:o)

>I've occasionally missed things in Windows like better ways to search but
>it's hard enough to teach people even slightly more complex ways and for the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>and it has more features than any of the free versions of readers I've
>looked at.

I've found Eudora to be a great program, personally -- which is why I
wondered if perhaps his files may have corrupted in transit, and
suggested he do another download of the program and reinstall it.

However, since using Incredimail for several years now, I have
adopted to it pretty completely, although I do recall a lot of how
Eudora works.
Have a good day Mike :o)
VO - 09 Sep 2005 23:51 GMT
> On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 02:42:18 GMT, "Mike Painter"
> <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> said the following funny stuff in this
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>  I was merely trying to help the person out who is having the
> problems, is all.

Your VERY specific choice is to have an excuse to not be able to block
or mark read.

>  
>
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> Eudora works.
> Have a good day Mike :o)

So, that has what to do with blocking on a news group?
Doc Watson - 10 Sep 2005 17:21 GMT
>Your VERY specific choice is to have an excuse to not be able to block
>or mark read.

Oh grow up.
LONG AGO, I mentioned being unable to killfile because I didn't want
to have to pay for the full version of Agent.
If you'd care to look, you'll see that changed, which explains why I
now have killfile capabilities.
as for OE, I hated it from the beginning, and I still do. That's my
prerogative.

Confucius say: "Don't judge people by their relatives!"
here_and_there - 08 Sep 2005 00:44 GMT
>>>??  I am using Eudora for free - has a few adverts that I never notice
>>
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>Don't tell anyone that you have no problem.
>Something that does nothing cannot give a problem.
Dies that mean you cannot be a problem.  You don't seem to do anything
:)
j-w <jw - 06 Sep 2005 22:16 GMT
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author.
>>  copyright 2005 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
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>That is incorrect he would still have this on xp.  I have both 98se and
>xp.

Did you see my :

Problems 99.9 % solved.

comment ?

>The fix is this
>Close eudora
>Stat menu run box
>notepad c:\eudora\eudora.ini

I also said to discard eudora and go with Yahoo e-mail.

jw

>ACAP must be set at 0 unless you have an ACAP server-most people dont.
>the nosplashscreen=1 helps prevent crashes when loading
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>Greg Ro
>Plus Bible john did not need to post to seven groups
here_and_there - 06 Sep 2005 22:23 GMT
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>jw
Go with Yahoo mail and be prepared for lots of SPAM.  What's wrong
with Eudora?  And some prefer a POP3 mail system rather than web-mail
based

>>ACAP must be set at 0 unless you have an ACAP server-most people dont.
>>the nosplashscreen=1 helps prevent crashes when loading
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>>Greg Ro
>>Plus Bible john did not need to post to seven groups
j-w <jw - 07 Sep 2005 02:54 GMT
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this may be used elsewhere without expressed written consent of the
author.

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>>jw
>Go with Yahoo mail and be prepared for lots of SPAM.

There are SPAM filters; and it is reliable.  I RARELY can't get on.
And when I can't get on, and I make half-a-dozen phone calls, I find
that few of my contacts-- if any-- can get on.

 What's wrong
>with Eudora?  

My issue with Eudora was/is (haven't used it for YEARS ) is that the
email is stored on my / your computer. I prefer having my e-mail
stored on the host.
That is a good way to archive my valuable information at another site.

Used to be every time I crashed, I lost 500 emails.

And some prefer a POP3 mail system rather than web-mail
>based

"To each his own." I was merely stating my preference.

jw

>>>ACAP must be set at 0 unless you have an ACAP server-most people dont.
>>>the nosplashscreen=1 helps prevent crashes when loading
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>>>Greg Ro
>>>Plus Bible john did not need to post to seven groups
VO - 07 Sep 2005 03:14 GMT
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> And when I can't get on, and I make half-a-dozen phone calls, I find
> that few of my contacts-- if any-- can get on.

With IE, Thunderbird, Agent, BNR2 I've never had a reason to call.

>   What's wrong
>
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>>>>Greg Ro
>>>>Plus Bible john did not need to post to seven groups
j-w <jw - 07 Sep 2005 11:46 GMT
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>With IE, Thunderbird, Agent, BNR2 I've never had a reason to call.

Of course, VO, with your vast, unequalled experience, no one could
POSSIBLY hope to ever hold a candle to you.

But we must manage to creep and crawl along the best we can.

You surely are a legend in your own mind.

jw

>>   What's wrong
>>
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>>>>>Greg Ro
>>>>>Plus Bible john did not need to post to seven groups
VO - 07 Sep 2005 16:33 GMT
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> You surely are a legend in your own mind.

Give me a reason why I should have any system that gives a problem.
Eudora apparently is good for people who get several hundred or thousand
e-mails a day, but the $50.00 version.
j-w <jw - 08 Sep 2005 01:37 GMT
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>Give me a reason

Why bother to even communicate with you?  If there is an arrogant
person who can't be told anything, but who has an opinion about
everything, and who is never wrong;

it's you.

And I don't find you at all reasonable.  Even Elaine apologizes. Even
SL apologizes on a good day.

I have never seen you even admit you're wrong about the teensiest
thing.

And no one could POSSIBLY be as knowledgeable or as perfect as you
pretend, other than perhaps Jim Agar.

Have a good day!

But then, how could YOU POSSIBLY have a BAD day?

Bad days are for imperfect humans. You are neither imperfect nor
human; you are a god.

At least one person I know thinks so.

Try some humility, pal. Join the rest of humanity. Even Jesus was
humble!

john w

why I should have any system that gives a problem.
>Eudora apparently is good for people who get several hundred or thousand
>e-mails a day, but the $50.00 version.
VO - 08 Sep 2005 16:35 GMT
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> it's you.

Sorry.

I don't open my mouth unless I do know, then I can stand by what I say.

I don't even venture an opinion about that which I don't know.

This creates on aura that I cannot be wrong.

Just because you make up these wild stories from your imagination does
not mean that others do.

YOU are the one who said you had to make a half dozen phone calls.  Just
because most of the world doesn't run into that or other "crashes" does
not mean the rest of the world is wrong or that anyone who offers
alternate solutions is arrogant.
Doc Watson - 08 Sep 2005 18:44 GMT
>And I don't find you at all reasonable.  Even Elaine apologizes. Even
>SL apologizes on a good day.

Odd ain't it?

In another post dated earlier today, you claimed that neither of us
apologizes- now you admit we do.

Which is it, boy? another lie we've got you on!!!!!
VO - 07 Sep 2005 01:00 GMT
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> I also said to discard eudora and go with Yahoo e-mail.

From bad to really terrible.

> jw
>
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>>Greg Ro
>>Plus Bible john did not need to post to seven groups
j-w <jw - 07 Sep 2005 02:56 GMT
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> From bad to really terrible.

The nice thing about Free Speech and the Internet is that I get to
give my opinion, and you get to give yours.

And I disagree that web-based e-mail is really terrible.

jw

>> jw
>>
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>>>Greg Ro
>>>Plus Bible john did not need to post to seven groups
VO - 07 Sep 2005 03:16 GMT
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> And I disagree that web-based e-mail is really terrible.

You don't have non-web-based e-mail.
You just don't STORE messages on your computer.

> jw
>
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>>>>Greg Ro
>>>>Plus Bible john did not need to post to seven groups
j-w <jw - 07 Sep 2005 11:47 GMT
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>You don't have non-web-based e-mail.
>You just don't STORE messages on your computer.

"nit nit nit"

"WhatEVER!"

jw

>> jw
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>>>>>Greg Ro
>>>>>Plus Bible john did not need to post to seven groups
Mike Painter - 07 Sep 2005 21:03 GMT
>> You don't have non-web-based e-mail.
>> You just don't STORE messages on your computer.
>>
> "nit nit nit"
>
> "WhatEVER!"

Said with a valley girl accent it suits you quite well.
Many of them are the airheads they seem to be and the idea of learning or
accepting help from any but their peers is about the same as yours.
j-w <jw - 08 Sep 2005 01:39 GMT
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> >> You don't have non-web-based e-mail.
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>Many of them are the airheads they seem to be and the idea of learning or
>accepting help from any but their peers is about the same as yours.

Get back to me when you have something positive and uplifting to say

troll.

john w
Mike Painter - 08 Sep 2005 04:14 GMT
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> Get back to me when you have something positive and uplifting to say

Several of us did and you ignored the advice and information.
Followed shortly by your usual "I'm not going to talk to you any more."
Followed shortly by your responding to them again.

I see you're still adding that inane copyright notice. At this point if you
wrote the great American novel, I doubt that you could copyright it.
You may have set a new precedent by  providing  "eminent domain" to a
copyright.
Doc Watson - 08 Sep 2005 18:44 GMT
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>Get back to me when you have something positive and uplifting to say

Allow me ---- I am POSITIVE you're a pain in the butt, and if you
would be so kind as to turn around, I'll be more than happy to give
your pants an uplifting with the toe of my boot......

>troll.
Yes, you are.
rogue - 07 Sep 2005 03:10 GMT
A couple of thoughts:

Windows 98 is very old, not supported any longer even by Microsoft and
doesn't play well with a number of newer files.  I checked my copy of
the MFC42.dll file and it's dated 2001.  (I'm running Windows XP Home
edition on my home computer and XP Pro on my laptop.)

An invalid page fault can be thrown by more than one thing, (it's going
to be dependent often times on how the programmer writes the code and
tells it to handle an exception) though it's often a problem reading or
writing data to the Windows page file.  My question about your Eudora
is:  is it a newer version of the program, perhaps not really tested
and supported on such an old version of Windows?   If you install the
newest version of a software package, it may install a different
(newer) version of the MFC42.dll file, which may cause problems when
the program tries to perform certain tasks with the limited memory you
have available.

Another possible reason for the invalid page fault is that earlier
versions of Windows do a very poor job of handling memory, which causes
the OS to spend more time swapping stuff back and forth to the paging
file.  This problem was fixed somewhat in NT, improved in Windows 2000
and then Windows XP was written to combine the better parts of 2000
like memory management with the plug and play ease of use that existed
in Windows 95/98/Me.

Honestly, if you are still using Windows 98, try to use legacy versions
of the software that were written for that version OS.  If you get a
box with a bit of decent memory and faster processor, take the plunge
and upgrade to Window XP home edition if you wish to stay with Windows.

Or, throw all that aside, since Linux works well with older hardware,
take the plunge and install one of the easier distros of Linux.
Mandrake/Mandriva is rated as one of the easiest versions for newbies,
and I found Red Hat and Fedora to be very simple to use.  You can get
them for free online and they install very easily.  In fact, at the
news stands right now, there is a special edition of Linux Format
magazine with step by step instructions on using Mandriva and it even
comes with the CD's to install.  I'm running it on my laptop and dual
boot between it and Windows XP Professional, so I can more easily teach
myself to use it.

Just my thoughts.
 
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