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Windows Forum / Windows 98 / Performance / February 2006Win98 very slow to boot up
Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98 (1st edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over 1 1/2 minutes, then the icons start to load. I reinstalled the network card drivers several times, did updated NAV scans, spyware checks etc. A boot log analysis shows Ndis2sup.vxd failed( but I read that's normal). This is not a ram problem or such. There must be some setting or conflict with something. I suspect that windows is having a hard time finding something (like a network ) at start up. Any ideas, either network or other? Thanks . Steve L >Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98 (1st >edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over 1 1/2 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Steve L Hi Steve. Are you using BLA.EXE to do the bootlog analysis? If so then use the "show delays" function in the program and it will select only those startup items that are taking a lot of time. That should show you where the problem lies. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada  SignatureMicrosoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." > >Last week I fooled with my LinkSys LNE100 network card. Now WIN98 (1st > >edition) boots very slow. It stays on the blank desktop for over 1 1/2 [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Good luck Ron, I am using BLA.exe and set it to show delays. There are about 15 items from .278 seconds to the highest of 10.778 seconds (IFSHLP.SYS). Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks. Steve >Ron, >I am using BLA.exe and set it to show delays. There are about 15 items from >.278 seconds to the highest of 10.778 seconds (IFSHLP.SYS). Do you have any >other suggestions? Thanks. >Steve Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I have been away for a few days. I was anticipating that BLA would show a major delay on a network related item, indicating that whatever you had done with the network card was the likely culprit. Here is a link to a web page where a similar problem was solved (eventually). http://forums.techguy.org/archive-windows-95-98-me/84233-resolved-start-up-log-d elay.html Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada SignatureMicrosoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." I tried the things shown on the site below with no luck. I also reinstalled a lower version of my video card driver, and also tried a newer version, but it didn't help. Anyone have any ideas to eliminate the slow start up? Thanks. Steve > >Ron, > >I am using BLA.exe and set it to show delays. There are about 15 items from [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Here is a link to a web page where a similar problem was solved > (eventually). http://forums.techguy.org/archive-windows-95-98-me/84233-resolved-start-up-log-d elay.html > Good luck > > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada How fast does it boot in Safe Mode? >I tried the things shown on the site below with no luck. I also reinstalled > a lower version of my video card driver, and also tried a newer version, [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada The same time in safe mode, about 3 minutes. I just doublechecked it. Steve > How fast does it boot in Safe Mode? > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >> Here is a link to a web page where a similar problem was solved > >> (eventually). http://forums.techguy.org/archive-windows-95-98-me/84233-resolved-start-up-log-d elay.html > >> Good luck > >> > >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Given it occurs in Safe Mode also - still not sure if you have a HW or SW issue. Can you tell if the HD immediately boots after POST (for that matter how long does POST take) or if it takes time to begin the boot process (e.g. HD not spinning up fast enough)? Another idea, if you've already posted this I apologize, do you have a list of your startup items? You can create one using Startuplist available here: http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html Look through the list, or post it here, to see if anything is out of the ordinary or unexplainable. > The same time in safe mode, about 3 minutes. I just doublechecked it. > Steve [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> >> >> >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada I am a stickler for having nothing in my startup list. However, I was amazed at the amount of all the little processes and apps that started when I ran the Startup List program. It's a cool little program. But I assume everything there was required. I have nothing checked in the MSconfig startup utility. The hard drive is intermittently active/inactive after the desktop loads( for the 3 minutes while it waits to load the desktop icons). Then the icons all of a sudden load within 5 seconds. The POST takes about 10-15 seconds and the HD light is flickering. I believe this is a software problem in such that the system is searching/waiting for something before it releases control to the desktop. There must be some setting or conflict somewhere. PS- I can copy/paste the starup list (long) if you need to see it. > Given it occurs in Safe Mode also - still not sure if you have a HW or SW > issue. Can you tell if the HD immediately boots after POST (for that matter [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > >> >> Here is a link to a web page where a similar problem was solved > >> >> (eventually). http://forums.techguy.org/archive-windows-95-98-me/84233-resolved-start-up-log-d elay.html > >> >> Good luck > >> >> > >> >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada I would expect BLA to capture the delay between two (multiple) events if it's somewhere in the boot process. Have you tried Step-byStep booting to see if anything in particular is taking very long (F8 during POST - select Step by Step Confirmation)? Other boot options to experiment with can be found here: http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/1268/ Focusing on HW you could: * Disconnect CDROMs, other HDs, any other non-essential HW * Use partial memory, e.g. take out stick(s) Time consuming options include: * Image partition to a different drive - try the different drive * Fresh reinstall OS Troubleshooting can be somewhat open-ended until you can repeat or isolate the problem or until you have enough clues to formulate a reasonable hypothesis one can test. If you find the problem, I for one am curious as to what it is. >I am a stickler for having nothing in my startup list. However, I was >amazed [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] >> >> >> >> >> >> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada |
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