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Windows Forum / Windows 98 / Performance / June 2008Its working...To Glee
thanks again Glee, for your partial solution...but like i said in my previous post to you about doing what u suggested, it didn't work. I am going to mention here how I did get it to work, so others may learn and not be discouraged by cynical remarks from some 'moderators' here...if they don't have the temperament, than they should not be here..we all are not 'geniuses' they pretend to be. I went to adjust Audio properties and clicked on Voice tab and did the test hardware button. The next box showed at the very bottom 2 checked boxes of Mic1 and Mic2, I believe it said. I removed both check marks and that made it work. I'm no "moderator", I just hang out here a lot. I don't know how to reinstall Sound Recorder in Windows XP, or if it is even possible, just like you. So I perfectly politely suggested that an XP group was the place to find the answer. Furthermore, you posted to a group that gets little or no traffic. Plus, I *didn't* know whether Sound Recorder in Windows 98 is exactly the same in Windows XP, and neither did you. The only RESPONSIBLE thing for me to do was to redirect you to the Windows XP group. You lucked out in that Brian also knows enough about XP Sound Recorder to fell comfortable in answering your questions, but it was TOTAL LUCK that he happened to come around to answer your question in such short order. So, after all of my responsible and polite suggestions, you slap me in the face with, " Don't be technical, answer it or not." That's called an ultimatum and that's damned rude. So, while I'm glad Brian was able to help you, as far as I'm concerned you need to learn a LOT of manners, and if you come back here again, I'll feel obligated to teach you some. If you're running Windows XP, you've got no business posting your XP questions to these 98 groups. Why? Because you are likely to get a wrong answer if you get any. Even if you get the right answer -- for an XP problem -- at some point in the future, someone will be searching on your same problem, find your thread in a Windows 98 group and immediately assume that the answer is for Windows 98 when we all know it only applies to XP. See where I'm going with this? I had damned good reasons for redirecting you to an XP group and all you could say was, essentially, "Shut up and answer the question." Well, GFY.  SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com > thanks again Glee, for your partial solution...but like i said in my > previous post to you about doing what u suggested, it didn't work. I am [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > at the very bottom 2 checked boxes of Mic1 and Mic2, I believe it said. I > removed both check marks and that made it work. > I'm no "moderator", I just hang out here a lot. I don't know how to > reinstall Sound Recorder in Windows XP, or if it is even possible, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Recorder in Windows 98 is exactly the same in Windows XP, and neither > did you. >>> Then why did u even bother to answer in the first place, if you knew nothing about it, other than telling me to go to the XP group? Just what makes u think that i didn't know this was win98 group? You see, I did know that sound recorder were identical for win98 and XP...and thought the fix, if any were identical. > So, after all of my responsible and polite suggestions, you slap me in > the face with, " Don't be technical, answer it or not." That's called > an ultimatum and that's damned rude.>>> As rude as u called me having a 'pissant attitude"...look whats calling the kettle black. > So, while I'm glad Brian was able to help you, as far as I'm concerned > you need to learn a LOT of manners, and if you come back here again, > I'll feel obligated to teach you some.>>> and how do u propose to do that? If i should accidentally ever come to this group again, just ignore my username and i certainly would do likewise. > If you're running Windows XP, you've got no business posting your XP > questions to these 98 groups. >>> MY,my such a sacred ground...and threatening words as "You got no business posting here in 98 group. > I had damned good reasons for redirecting you to an XP group and all > you could say was, essentially, "Shut up and answer the question." Twisting my words again, my, my. I never used the words "Shutup", though i admit its what i had in mind. Maybe your spending too much time here...not being a moderator. >> I'm no "moderator", I just hang out here a lot. I don't know how to >> reinstall Sound Recorder in Windows XP, or if it is even possible, just [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > that sound recorder were identical for win98 and XP...and thought the fix, > if any were identical. You asked how to reinstall Sound Recorder. The procedures for reinstalling SR in WinXP and Win98 are different. Period. You were wrong to post your query to a Win98 group, period. It was inconsiderate to all the future users of this group. Period. Yes, I figured you *probably* knew this was a 98 group, didn't make any judgement on WHY you chose a 98 group for an XP question, just made the absolutely proper suggestion that you would get a better answer in an XP group. And for that you insult me? Your manners indicate a lack of parentage. >> So, after all of my responsible and polite suggestions, you slap me in >> the face with, " Don't be technical, answer it or not." That's called an >> ultimatum and that's damned rude.>>> > As rude as u called me having a 'pissant attitude"...look whats calling > the kettle black. When someone is blatantly rude to me, yes, I tell them off. Is that not also true for you? Except YOU were the rude one in the first place. My "rudeness" was intentional. Shall I assume that yours was, also? >> So, while I'm glad Brian was able to help you, as far as I'm concerned >> you need to learn a LOT of manners, and if you come back here again, I'll >> feel obligated to teach you some.>>> > and how do u propose to do that? If i should accidentally ever come to > this group again, just ignore my username and i certainly would do > likewise. Like I'm going to remember who the hell you are. I answer too many thousands of posts each year to keep track of pissants. Next time I see you, I'll answer your question just like I'd answer anyone else's. And if you're posting in the wrong place, I'll tell you that, and if you're rude again, I'll tell you off again. How about you stop posting to any 98 group. That will keep you out of my hair. >> If you're running Windows XP, you've got no business posting your XP >> questions to these 98 groups. >>> > MY,my such a sacred ground...and threatening words as "You got no business > posting here in 98 group. Let's just finish the sentence, OK? "..with a Windows XP question." Exactly!! Do not post here with XP questions. As I explained, there's very good reasons for that, but of course they involve a sense of courtesy, which you appear to totally lack. >> I had damned good reasons for redirecting you to an XP group and all you >> could say was, essentially, "Shut up and answer the question." > Twisting my words again, my, my. I never used the words "Shutup", though i > admit its what i had in mind. Maybe your spending too much time here...not > being a moderator. What's the difference? I knew you meant "Shutup" (or worse), and so would any other educated person. So, who is the rude one here? Who's the one who pretty much blatantly says everyone else can go to hell, I'm the only one that matters here? What were you, raised by slugs? SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com OK....I mis-read what you were asking, when you stated you had two microphones, I thought you meant you were trying to test two different microphones in your computer's mic jack. Apparently what you meant was that you have two microphone JACKS you were trying to get working...at least that's what is indicated by your reported solution. Many desktop computers have a front mic jack and a rear mic jack, and you may have to use the audio control panel, or the audio settings utility from the audio card maker, to select which mic jack you are using. The method can vary depending on the driver and software installed for it. There is usually an interface there for specifically selecting the mic jack in use, rather than having to go through the hardware test dialog on the Audio control panel's Voice tab. You would have to specify what audio card or chipset was involved, and what if any audio utility came with it, for someone to give details as to the interface available, or you could find and read your associated manual. Some systems might only have a sensing sleeve in the jack itself, toggling from rear to front only if a microphone is physically present at the jack with the sensing sleeve. As Gary mentioned, perhaps not eloquently, but accurately, any questions regarding Win XP should be asked in an XP group, not a 98 group. Usually you would not have gotten any reply at all beyond directions to the correct forum. Glad you got it figured out, after a fashion, though as I stated there should be a more direct interface to selecting the mic jack, if you research it correctly. SignatureGlen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm > thanks again Glee, for your partial solution...but like i said in my previous post > to you about doing what u suggested, it didn't work. I am going to mention here [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The next box showed at the very bottom 2 checked boxes of Mic1 and Mic2, I believe > it said. I removed both check marks and that made it work. Eloquence?!? I'm expected to be "eloquent", now?!? Sheesh! Sorry, I've been going for succinct., <eg>. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com > OK....I mis-read what you were asking, when you stated you had two > microphones, I thought you meant you were trying to test two different [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> showed at the very bottom 2 checked boxes of Mic1 and Mic2, I believe it >> said. I removed both check marks and that made it work. Succinct works for me! The direction the 98 groups have taken the past year or so, it's a wonder we don't all just leave. As a result, I've been posting less and less (almost nil recently) in the groups, and have concentrated mostly on Jim Eshelman's Aumha.net web forums, and recently on the Computer Haven forums on and off. The past few months I've been nearly invisible anywhere, as I just bought a humble house and have been pre-occupied with other things. SignatureGlen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm > Eloquence?!? I'm expected to be "eloquent", now?!? Sheesh! > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >>> boxes of Mic1 and Mic2, I believe it said. I removed both check marks and that >>> made it work. I'm not up to providing support anywhere else or for any other OS. I'm here until the 98 groups die. Which some might think I'm doing my best to hasten, <eg>. Don't get me started on buying humble little houses, etc. I have two such and a list longer than the Doomsday Book of renovations mostly in mid-progress, with no money and a body that went on strike two years ago. Negotiations suggest that body might actually go back to work within a year or so, but then again maybe not. Sucks. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com > Succinct works for me! > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >>>> Mic2, I believe it said. I removed both check marks and that made it >>>> work. > I'm not up to providing support anywhere else or for any other OS. > I'm here until the 98 groups die. Which some might think I'm doing my [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > ago. Negotiations suggest that body might actually go back to work > within a year or so, but then again maybe not. Sucks. Well, I'm still happy you're here and I really learn a lot from your responses. PS: Thanks for the Critical Update cds that you sent me. Buffalo >> I'm not up to providing support anywhere else or for any other OS. >> I'm here until the 98 groups die. Which some might think I'm doing my >> best to hasten, <eg>. [] > Well, I'm still happy you're here and I really learn a lot from your > responses. [] Seconded! We disagree on various things (such as 98lite, and _possibly_ the intentions of Mr. soporific), but as Buffalo said, I learn a lot from what you say. SignatureJ. P. Gilliver | Tel. +44 1634 203298 Essex home for sale, £59,950: see http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/home/ Just so you understand, I have no negative opinion of Soporific or his intentions. I just think he's chasing an impossible dream. And, if you'll note, my objection was to anyone recommending such an updater to novices, average users, etc., without adding appropriate caveats and hints that will keep the unaware from having to flatten their system when it ends up a total mess due to some unforeseen incompatibility. As for me, someone who COULD use such a collection of updates, hotfixes, etc., no way am I going to trust anyone else to just install a whole bunch of them, good mixed with possibly bad, with no individual uninstall available, etc. I pretty much HAVE to trust MS and it's patches, but that does not extend to anyone else's stuff. As for 98Lite... That is no longer really Windows 98, as I've already said, several times. It's a super-modified, and like super-modified race cars, even ones that are made street-legal, it is no longer an OS for the average user. You wouldn't be able to take a super-modified Ford to the shop and expect the average mechanic to work on it properly, nor would you let just anyone drive it. And that is my objection to anyone recommending it in these groups. If they want to support 98Lite, I suggest an entirely new newsgroup. SignatureGary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com >>> I'm not up to providing support anywhere else or for any other OS. >>> I'm here until the 98 groups die. Which some might think I'm doing my [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the intentions of Mr. soporific), but as Buffalo said, I learn a lot from > what you say. > Just so you understand, I have no negative opinion of Soporific or his > intentions. I just think he's chasing an impossible dream. And, if Having played with his product a bit, I am inclined to agree - though I am very impressed with how it's all put together and presented. I do have an old laptop I'm going to redo from scratch, which I will try it on: my experiences so far have been with trying to salvage a system, which is always more problematical. > you'll note, my objection was to anyone recommending such an updater > to novices, average users, etc., without adding appropriate caveats Ah, sorry, my above paragraph was mainly referring to his UBCD project, which is a complete '98 system install, _including_ assorted patches (the universal USB was particularly attractive). I'd forgotten we started this discussing his AutoPatcher. Yes, I tend to agree ... [] > As for me, someone who COULD use such a collection of updates, > hotfixes, etc., no way am I going to trust anyone else to just > install a whole bunch of them, good mixed with possibly bad, with no > individual uninstall available, etc. I pretty much HAVE to trust MS > and it's patches, but that does not extend to anyone else's stuff. Yes, it's the having to trust such patches that has kept me from installing most of them - the lack of a viable reversion (other than backing up the entire Windows partition every time which is not really practicable. Though I'm toying with the idea of backing up just the Windows _directory_, which just about might be). > As for 98Lite... That is no longer really Windows 98, as I've already > said, several times. It's a super-modified, and like super-modified > race cars, even ones that are made street-legal, it is no longer an > OS for the average user. You wouldn't be able to take a Hmm. I know what you mean, but I've only ever experimented with the free version, which doesn't have _lots_ of options, and I've always more or less only done two things with it: removed IE, and gone back to the '95 shell - both of which I feel make for a more robust (and certainly faster) system. But I do know what you mean. > super-modified Ford to the shop and expect the average mechanic to > work on it properly, nor would you let just anyone drive it. And that > is my objection to anyone recommending it in these groups. If they > want to support 98Lite, I suggest an entirely new newsgroup. I fear there's insufficient interest - I'm pretty certain even its developers aren't (developing it), since they've got XP to play with (and - I haven't looked lately - probably Vista). (Actually I must have a look and see: they might make Vista into something I could live with, though I doubt it!) >>>> I'm not up to providing support anywhere else or for any other OS. >>>> I'm here until the 98 groups die. Which some might think I'm doing >>>> my best to hasten, <eg>. Quite the opposite! >> [] >>> Well, I'm still happy you're here and I really learn a lot from your >>> responses. >> [] Still the case. SignatureJ. P. Gilliver | Tel. +44 1634 203298 Essex home SOLD (I hope)! see http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/home/ |
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