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John - 29 Aug 2003 12:51 GMT
I m running a Time AMD K6 with 128MB on Windows 98SE.

In the hope of speeding things up I recently added another
128MB RAM to bring the total to an earth shattering 256MB
(I know) !

The new memory is being counted at start-up so I know its
running however, the system itself has actually got
slightly slower in most areas. I ran a performance test
which came with Norton System Works and this confirms that
the system is faster with the lower amount of memory !

Can any one suggest any reasons/solutions to this ?

Many thanks
John

PS. The memory is the same make as is used by the OEM.
f/fgeorge - 29 Aug 2003 14:43 GMT
It sounds like you have gone over the motherboards ability to cache
memory. Meaning that the memory above that level is used FIRST instead
of the cached memory. Meaning that you should get your motherboard
book out and check it to see how much memory the motherboard will
cache. If it is in fact less than 256 meg than remove the extra memory
to speed the machine back up. Older boards didn't forsee the need for
lots of memory it, like computers themselves, has evolved. Sure the
machine can "accept/handle/take" the 256 meg but how much does it
cache? Often a BIG difference.

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:51:36 -0700, "John" <jphallows@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>I m running a Time AMD K6 with 128MB on Windows 98SE.
>
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>
>PS. The memory is the same make as is used by the OEM.

-- Have you checked your Smoke Detector...LATELY?
Lil' Dave - 31 Aug 2003 00:24 GMT
Some older systems had a 64MB caching ability natively as part of the
chipset on the motherboard.  Intel TX chipset series for instance.  Your
system doesn't seem to fit this.

Windows operates from the top down utilizing memory.   So, if you had such
problem it would have manifested itself with your previous memory.  If
Windows cannot cache the highest part of memory, it operates terribly slow.
Not just a minor slowdown here, talking many, many times slower.

If its a visible but minor slowdown, I would consider it normal on some
systems when adding additional memory.  The slowdown is due to the way the
chipset IDs the RAM, then divides the memory by 2, then terms each memory
module as two banks.  Then associates the banks of different memory modules.
Another words, its switching back and forth between the two memory modules
as bank 1 and 2, then between the two memory modules as banks 3 and 4.
There is no solution, as its built into the bios to operate memory modules
that way.  This is as simple as I can put it.

Windows has nothing do with this, and no say in the matter.
I would live with the minor slowdown.
Dave
> I m running a Time AMD K6 with 128MB on Windows 98SE.
>
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>
> PS. The memory is the same make as is used by the OEM.
Jeff Richards - 31 Aug 2003 01:33 GMT
Sigh.  Windows does NOT use RAM from the top down.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98

> Some older systems had a 64MB caching ability natively as part of the
> chipset on the motherboard.  Intel TX chipset series for instance.  Your
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> Windows cannot cache the highest part of memory, it operates terribly slow.
> Not just a minor slowdown here, talking many, many times slower.
 
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