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Windows Forum / Windows 98 / Printing and Faxing / September 2006Prints test page okay BUT.......
Recently re-installed 98 and downloaded drivers for Lexmark printer of recent vintage. Installed and tested and test page prints fine. And I am able to use Notepad, Open a .txt file that I browsed to, saw it in the window and printed it. That's the good news. The bad news is that if I use MSDOS command and then edit, to open and look at the file, and then try to Print it, I get a write fault error. The printer power light is lit, all tests show the printer to be ready, but I can't print from MSDOS. I tried copy filename > prn or LPT1, nothing happens. It's been a long time that I've been working in XP..... what did I forget to do? Is there something I have to add to the autoexec or config.sys , or what? Thanks. William B. Lurie Are you opening a DOS window or restarting in DOS mode? Is the printer connected to a parallel port, or is it USB. Could you post the whole error message, please? One thing to note is that you don't need the ">" in the copy command, rather it should be "copy filename LPT1". Hal  SignatureHal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!" KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4 Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com > Recently re-installed 98 and downloaded drivers > for Lexmark printer of recent vintage. Installed [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > William B. Lurie Thanks for offering to help, Hal. I never restart in DOS mode.... takes too long and doesn't leave me with running programs. I open a DOS window by Start>>Run>>command, then CD from Windows to root directory. Printer is on a USB cable at all times. Please note that printer prints test page from Lexmark Solution Center nicely. Right now I'm having trouble reproducing it, but when I am in this DOS prompt mode, and type edit bigapl.txt to open the batch file, and then do the File>>Print and ask for the whole page, it just hangs, with the message at bottom of window "Waiting for printer to respond", which it never does..... I now see that it acts the same way in XP, so I think I have to regroup and get my story narrowed down. I can tell you this, though: it prints that file nicely if I copy it into Notepad and print it from there. Sorry to have started you on something that I can't reproduce. I'll appreciate your interim advice, while I get my act in order. Bill Lurie > Are you opening a DOS window or restarting in DOS mode? Is the printer > connected to a parallel port, or is it USB. Could you post the whole error > message, please? One thing to note is that you don't need the ">" in the > copy command, rather it should be "copy filename LPT1". > > Hal SignatureWilliam B. Lurie I thought it might be a USB printer; what you need to do in both operating systems is to "Capture" the printer port. In Windows 98, you do this from the "Details" tab on the printer property sheet with the "Capture" button; what it does is map the printer to an LPT port so DOS and DOS programs can have access to it. With Windows XP, the process is a bit different and, fortunately, here is a web page with detailed instructions: http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/printfromdos.htm Printing from DOS with Windows 2000 or XP Hal SignatureHal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!" KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4 Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com > Thanks for offering to help, Hal. I never restart in DOS mode.... > takes too long and doesn't leave me with running programs. I [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > Hal > I thought it might be a USB printer; what you need to do in both operating > systems is to "Capture" the printer port. In Windows 98, you do this from [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Hal Hal, it's the 98 I care more about, and you led me to the right place, but I don't know what to put there. I tried changing the USB002 (virtual port to USB) to LPT1 and it didn't like that. When I tried printing, it told me I had to stick with USB. Where it shows LPT1, the drop-down lets me choose LPT1 theu LPT7. Your explanation, above, led me to the right place, but could you tell me the steps, and what to change in the windows there, so that I'll capture what needs to be captured. The XP instructions of Sanders' are another matter. Even with his glossary, eventually I'll need another dictionary or better instructions, but the XP matter is distinctly lower priority. Thanks for helping. Bill Lurie I'm not exactly sure how to do this, however, it should be one of two ways. In both cases, you'll use the "Capture Printer Port" button. The first thing to try is to use the path listed in the "Print to the following path" window of the "Details" tab. In the Capture box, use the LPT port of your choice in the "Device" window and the path shown on the Details tab as the path. If this doesn't work, the next thing to try would be the Windows XP method. Here, you would share the printer (right click the printer, click "Sharing", give it a name, click OK) and then use the share path (which would be \\computername\sharename) in the path window in the capture dialog box. I'm not sure either method will work. Windows 98 doesn't have much USB support, so I don't know if either "Path" is useable. Hal SignatureHal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!" KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4 Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com > > I thought it might be a USB printer; what you need to do in both operating > > systems is to "Capture" the printer port. In Windows 98, you do this from [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Bill Lurie > I'm not exactly sure how to do this, however, it should be one of two ways. > In both cases, you'll use the "Capture Printer Port" button. The first [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Hal Hal, I want to emphasize that I am very grateful for your help. But as seems to happen to me all too often, the detailed help furnished doesn't fit what I see when I go there, or the advice given uses terms that leave me still in the dark. In the case we have here, I tried Method 1 first. My window doesn't show "Print to the following path", it says "Print to the following port". So I used that. It gave me four choices: USB002, COM1, LPT1, and FILE. Nothing I put there led to a successful choice at the "Capture" step, any choice of LPT1 thru LPT9 led to an error window with a big red 'X', saying "Network not supporting function" I would have loved to Capture LPT1 to USB002 (or vice versa) but I couldn't make it happen So I tried your "Windows XP method". I right clicked the printer, but of the choices that opened up, "Sharing" was not one of them, so I was blocked there. If you can get me past that hurdle, you might tell me where to find my 'computername'.....I tried opening up everything in "My Computer" but don't recall seeing a name. Sharename is easy, since you said "Give it a name". So I'm at a standstill in both methods, and I hate to keep bothering you. Is it possible that my 98, which is real original, right from its installation CD with no improvements, needs some updates or service packs? I could download these and save them in my XP OS, because in 98 I do not go on line. Incidentally, I'd be happy to work with you off this group if you feel it is not of widespread enough interest for the newsgroup. In a way that's more efficient. Bill L. Yes, "Print to the following PORT" is what I meant. For method 1, you'd click the "Capture Printer Port" button, put "USB002" in the lower "Path" window and set your choice of LPT ports in the "Device" window. If that's what you tried and it didn't work, sadly, I'm not surprised; Win98 just doesn't do USB very well. In order for "Sharing" to appear on the right click menu, you first have to turn on Printer Sharing. Right click Network Neighborhood, select "Properties", click the "File and Printer Sharing" button, and add a checkmark to "I want to be able to allow others to print to my printer(s)". With this done, right click the printer, click Sharing, click the "Shared as" radio button, and give it a Share Name. The "Computername" of your PC is available from Network Neighborhood properties on the "Identification" tab. At this point, you will hopefully be able to plug "\\computername\sharename" into the Path window. I don't know if this will work either, but it won't hurt to try. Hal SignatureHal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!" KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4 Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com > > I'm not exactly sure how to do this, however, it should be one of two ways. > > In both cases, you'll use the "Capture Printer Port" button. The first [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Bill L. > Yes, "Print to the following PORT" is what I meant. For method 1, you'd > click the "Capture Printer Port" button, put "USB002" in the lower "Path" [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Hal Hal, as happens so often, it is one step forward, two steps back. I tried the steps you listed, and as an aside I found my computer name...one *I* certainly didn't give it (D8B7K9).I Right Clicked Neighborhood, got to File & Printer Sharing button, checked "allow others to print etcetera". Closed or OK, whatever, and now it hit the fan. Window opened, "Copying files.....Insert 98 CDROM". Did that, waited, pressed OK, and now I got "Can't find Secur32.dll". Below that, "Copy from C:\Windows\options\CABS", tried a few times, had to abort the whole procedure and come back to say "*HELP*". In the process of leading me past the above hurdles, you might consider this: I have a CD which is to Upgrade 98 to 98ME. Do you feel that ME is more modern and maybe more complete? Incidentally I went to Microsoft download site looking for SPs for 98, and found nothing applicable other than an IE upgrade. I already have IE 6, good enough. Over to you...and thanks. I hope you have as much patience as I do. Bill L. I doubt that a Win98 => Win98SE CD will have the correct files on it. The usual method for adding Windows components is to install them from the original media (which would probably be Windows 98), then re-run the 98 to 98SE upgrade. The only 98SE disk that would work would be a 98SE install disk or a 95 to 98SE upgrade. Simply put, you need a full install disk. Hal SignatureHal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!" KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4 Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com > > Yes, "Print to the following PORT" is what I meant. For method 1, you'd > > click the "Capture Printer Port" button, put "USB002" in the lower "Path" [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Bill L. > I doubt that a Win98 => Win98SE CD will have the correct files on it. The > usual method for adding Windows components is to install them from the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hal Hal, by now I've moved forward but with no more success. I used my WIN98>>Windows ME Upgrade (*ME*, not SE), and everything that I reported before is still where I am blocked. Re-read my notes and review where I am blocked, and in the light of 98 ME (not SE) perhaps you can shine some more light. And thanks for staying with me. SignatureWilliam B. Lurie I doubt that a Win98 => Win98SE CD will have the correct files on it. The usual method for adding Windows components is to install them from the original media (which would probably be Windows 98), then re-run the 98 to 98SE upgrade. The only 98SE disk that would work would be a 98SE install disk or a 95 to 98SE upgrade. Simply put, you need a full install disk. Hal SignatureHal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!" KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4 Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com > > Yes, "Print to the following PORT" is what I meant. For method 1, you'd > > click the "Capture Printer Port" button, put "USB002" in the lower "Path" [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Bill L. > I doubt that a Win98 => Win98SE CD will have the correct files on it. The > usual method for adding Windows components is to install them from the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hal Thanks for staying with me, Hal. One important question: You're referring to Win 98>> Win98SE .... My software is Win98>>Win98 *Me*. I do have the full install disk but hate to go back that far. Does what you say about SE apply exactly with ME also? The chipset and drivers that came with this XP machine are S3 Pro Savage DDR ....and I went to S3's site and found drivers for 98, all types. Downloaded them, copied them to 98 in a 'temps3' directory, and then booted up the 98 system. Dbl-clicked on the downloaded zipped file and it automatically unzipped in that directory. That's the good news. The bad news is that there is no 'Setup' or 'Install' or any executable file. Perhaps I have to install it via a Device Manager or equivalent. Could I impose on you for step-by-step instructions for doing so? And thanks again. /WBL/ SignatureWilliam B. Lurie First off, there isn't a "Windows 98 Me". Windows 98 Second Edition (SE) was replaced by Windows Millenium Edition (ME); it was short lived and fell in between 98 and XP Home. As to the install question from a couple posts ago, you need to redirect the install routine to your CDROM; it was looking for Secur32.dll on your main hard drive ("Copy from C:\Windows\options\CABS"). As to the display driver, 'Control Panel|Display|Settings|Advanced|Adapter|Change' should allow you to installed the updated driver. Hal SignatureHal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!" KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4 Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com > > I doubt that a Win98 => Win98SE CD will have the correct files on it. The > > usual method for adding Windows components is to install them from the [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > /WBL/ > First off, there isn't a "Windows 98 Me". Windows 98 Second Edition (SE) was > replaced by Windows Millenium Edition (ME); it was short lived and fell in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Hal As I posted elsewhere, Hal, the display driver installed and I have good resolution. My next problem is now in the hands of the ME group, namely, I tried to install a modem and now am in a "not enough memory to run MS-DOS prompt", and I'm working with Mike Maltby there, who feels it is not a not enough memory problem, but system resources, 64K stacks, or some such. He's gone to bed already (U.K.) but when I sign in, early tomorrow, he may have sent me the next step to investigate. SignatureWilliam B. Lurie Just to remind you, Hal, that you have pointed at *exactly* what the problem is, with 98 and my USB-demanding Lexmark printer.......if you would be so kind as to expand those instructions just a bit. Thank you. Bill Lurie > I thought it might be a USB printer; what you need to do in both operating > systems is to "Capture" the printer port. In Windows 98, you do this from [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hal |
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