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Stuck in registry backup/reload on boot

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JCunington - 02 Jun 2004 05:00 GMT
I'm not sure I'm in the correct forum, but here's the problem, which seems to
be registry-related.

I have a problem with a computer I just picked up at the dump (and now I know
why it was there!). It's a P-II running just under 1Ghz with 300-some MB of
memory. Date of manufacture is sometime in '99.

I took it home and fired it up after seeing that it contained memory and a hard
drive. The computer boots up, starts loading Windows (98), then stops and
complains that the registry is hosed up. It then starts a DOS-based (?)
utility program that backs up the registry and reloads it. It then tells me to
hit <enter> to restart the system. I do, and it ends up backing up and
reloading the registry.

Under the circumstances, I don't have a rescue disk for this computer, nor do I
have a Win98 CD-ROM. Is there a way to rescue this computer from oblivion
without FDISKing it? Is this program that runs automatically regedit, or will
regedit do something this program doesn't?

Jay
"Don't know a lot about Windows when there are problems"
Bert Kinney - 02 Jun 2004 14:47 GMT
Hi,

The two most common causes for this error are faulty memory (RAM)
and overheating do to dirty or inoperative cooling fans.

The most accurate way of testing memory modules is to have them tested
on a memory tester. In my experience I have found software testers to be
inaccurate.

Try switching RAM sticks if there is more than one
Use one stick, then another.  Only one at a time, of course.
If both sticks work alone but will not work when combined, that almost
certainly indicates an incompatibility between the two sticks.
If one stick works but the other does not, then that would indicate the one
that doesn't work is either faulty, will not get along with the other stick,
or
is not the correct type for your system.

Tip: While the box is open check to make sure all fans are clean and
operating.
     This will help eliminate the possibility of overheating.

Another possible cause:
Registry scanner finds corrupted files and restores from a backup, and then
gets caught in a continual loop after installing Norton AntiVirus 2001
http://snipurl.com/10w

Registry Checker Continues to Detect Registry Damage
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q186/9/09.asp

There have also been reports of MSN Messenger causing this.
Uninstall Messenger to troubleshoot.

The Windows Cab files may be located on the hard drive.
Click start/find/files, search for win98*.cab. You may find them
in a folder like C:\Windows\options\cabs.

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Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
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> I'm not sure I'm in the correct forum, but here's the problem, which seems to
> be registry-related.
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> Jay
> "Don't know a lot about Windows when there are problems"
JCunington - 03 Jun 2004 05:26 GMT
Bert,

I tried all the memory sticks one at a time. I get hung up in the registry
checker every time.

One thing I did notice on startup: I get a message "invalid flash type" before
it falls into the registry checker.

I looked for the .nav files in the windows directory per your link but did not
find any. I poked around in the \progra~1 directory but didn't find any
indication that Norton was there either.

I'm unloading the registry using regedit and will reload it and see if there's
any improvement. I don't expect any, but I'll try to cover the bases.

Jay
The Canada Goose is living proof that birds have cross-bred with cattle and
rats.
Bert Kinney - 03 Jun 2004 14:40 GMT
The "invalid flash type" error message indicates a problem
with the system BIOS. Has anyone attempted to, or updated
the BIOS recently? So a Google newsgroup search on the
exact error (with quotes) message an you will see what I mean.

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> Bert,
>
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> The Canada Goose is living proof that birds have cross-bred with cattle and
> rats.
JCunington - 03 Jun 2004 21:30 GMT
>The "invalid flash type" error message indicates a problem
>with the system BIOS.

Would this cause me to get flipped into scanreg every time, or is this
something that has to be fixed first?

Jay
The Canada Goose is living proof that birds have cross-bred with cattle and
rats.
JCunington - 04 Jun 2004 00:04 GMT
The board apparently is an Abit BH6 v1.0.
I replaced the BIOS chip and I'm past that problem, but I'm still getting stuck
in scanreg.

I haven't tried the memory chips one at a time again. Yet.

Jay
The Canada Goose is living proof that birds have cross-bred with cattle and
rats.
JCunington - 04 Jun 2004 04:10 GMT
I'm up and running!

I was told by the guys at a local computer shop that the Abit BH6 is a pretty
dependable board, but is prone to having the BIOS chips go bad.

I replaced the BIOS chip ($5) and got past that hurdle, but was still stuck at
the registry. In another thread I read about using scanreg, and it linked to
the MS website. That put onto using "scanreg /restore", which gave me a listing
of five past registry files dating from January. I chose the oldest and
restored it. Windows fired up but I was stuck in safe mode. I tried the newest
one. Bad registry with endless recycles to scanreg. I went with the next newest
one and hit the jackpot. I now have a working system. Now to load the stuff _I_
want...

Jay
The Canada Goose is living proof that birds have cross-bred with cattle and
rats.
Bert Kinney - 31 Jul 2004 20:28 GMT
That's great to hear Jay, thanks for the feedback.

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Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
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How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
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> I'm up and running!
>
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> The Canada Goose is living proof that birds have cross-bred with cattle and
> rats.
 
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