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vmm32.vxd problem

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Jesper Nielsen - 25 Aug 2004 20:44 GMT
I have a problems with a Win98 machine that wiil not run after being update
with Windows Update.

The vmm32.vxd is missing, and I followed this atricle
http://www.infinisource.com/techfiles/vmm32.html.

I found all the vxd's, made de wininit.ini, but when booting I get this
error: Windows could not combine VxDs into a monolithic file before
starting.

I found a MS technote that tells me to free up space (I have more then 700
MB) and run scandisk. I did offcoure that, but that didn't help.

On google groups I found other with same problem, but no solution.

So will re-installing Win 98 ruin anything with the other programs?

or/and

can i build the vmm32.vxd on another machine using wininit.exe and the vxd's
that make up the monolithic file?

Thx

Jesper
Ron Badour - 25 Aug 2004 23:04 GMT
Try doing an install over the top of the existing system which will preserve
your software and settings.  Vmm32 is built during Windows setup so if you
use the file from another PC, the drivers will be for that PC's hardware
rather than yours.  As you  have seen from Google, many fail to provide
feedback after fixing a problem so we don't always know what works and what
doesn't.  Please give feedback to this thread and let us know what happens.

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> I have a problems with a Win98 machine that wiil not run after being update
> with Windows Update.
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Jesper Nielsen - 26 Aug 2004 18:56 GMT
My user thinks he got his labtop with Win98 preinstalled.

I have a work license to Win98, so it's unlikely it's the same key. Could
this create a problem?

Is there something I should know or considder when I reinstall?

And what about the vxd's I placed? Should they be removed?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Jesper

> Try doing an install over the top of the existing system which will preserve
> your software and settings.  Vmm32 is built during Windows setup so if you
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Ron Badour - 26 Aug 2004 19:56 GMT
You didn't mention a laptop in the original post and that changes things
significantly.  Laptops almost always come with a recovery CD that is built
especially for that particular laptop.  A recovery CD does not always allow
an installation over the top of the existing system and may even fdisk and
format the drive before installing the system.  Loading a retail version of
W98 to a laptop can be dangerous and even cause physical damage.  You are
going to have to take a look  at the software that came with the machine to
see what options the recovery CD offers.  You may have start over clean.

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Jesper Nielsen - 26 Aug 2004 22:18 GMT
Ok hm.

Does not sound good.

Would I be able to upgrade to NT 4.0 without being able to access Win 98?

Jesper
> You didn't mention a laptop in the original post and that changes things
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Ron Badour - 26 Aug 2004 22:41 GMT
I don't support NT4 and have never used it--sorry.  You might be able to
upgrade to XP but you had better ask that question in an XP newsgroup.

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Ron Badour - 26 Aug 2004 22:48 GMT
On further thought, I doubt you can upgrade to NT4 since it uses NTFS
partitions while W98 uses Fat 16/32 partitions.

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> I don't support NT4 and have never used it--sorry.  You might be able to
> upgrade to XP but you had better ask that question in an XP newsgroup.
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cquirke (MVP Win9x) - 28 Aug 2004 22:44 GMT
>On further thought, I doubt you can upgrade to NT4 since it uses NTFS
>partitions while W98 uses Fat 16/32 partitions.

NT (all versions up to and including XP) run fine on FATxx.  Some
older ones (NT 3.x, NT 4) can't "see" FAT32.

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Ron Badour - 28 Aug 2004 22:51 GMT
I don't understand how it can run fine on fat32 but can't see fat32--but
then who cares?  I don't support NT4 and I violated my own rule of telling
people to ask their system questions in the appropriate system group rather
than attempting to muddle through the question.

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cquirke (MVP Win9x) - 30 Aug 2004 19:46 GMT
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 16:51:42 -0500, "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com>

>I don't understand how it can run fine on fat32 but can't see fat32

Older NT versions support FAT16 but not FAT32; later versions support
both FAT16 and FAT32.  NT extends the Win9x FAT16 2G limit to 4G by
using 64k clusters, but this isn't compatible with DOS or Win9x.

>but then who cares?  

Anyone who would rather avoid NTFS, and there are good reasons to do
that.  It's bad enough that XP artificially shoves users into NTFS
without inaccurate advice leading down the same path   ;-p

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